Author Topic: To paint or not  (Read 440 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline dirty fingernails

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 18
To paint or not
« on: November 09, 2024, 11:38:03 AM »
Hi everyone . So I have a 73Cb750 sunrise Flake . 26 yrs now . Some jackass turned right from the left lane , hit me , kept going . Now my orange tank has a huge dent and it's really crappy on the inside . I have a really nice Boss Marroon tank that I put on it with a spare set of black sidecovers . I don't really want to paint this original tank orange , but I want the Orange original look . Should I paint the tank ?

Offline denward17

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,391
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2024, 11:48:56 AM »
I think I would keep the maroon like it is....if it is in decent shape.

Can the orange tank be fixed? If not, I think I would order a set from yamiya in the color I wanted, assuming you have to pay someone to paint.

Offline dirty fingernails

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 18
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2024, 11:52:23 AM »
That's a huge chunk of change for the Yamiya set . Can't do that . Maybe I will look for a set of Boss Marroon side covers . My orange tank is F'd .

Offline denward17

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,391
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2024, 12:00:39 PM »
Were you planning to paint yourself?

Don't know how much a tank would cost to paint these days, but I can only guess.

I did check on painting a tank and side covers from a professional body shop, made my eyes water so I learned to paint myself, even then materials were about $400 or so for a 550 tank/side covers.

I'm in process of painting a K8 tank, and so far in about $525 just for materials and paint.


Offline Rayzerman

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 42
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2024, 12:32:24 PM »
Not seeing the dent in the orange tank from your pic.... it may be worth trying a paintless dent repair... kit from AliExpress is cheap, hot melt glue the puller piece onto the tank, and pull gently with the tool, working the dent out.  Start at the edges and work your way into the center.... I just did this on my tank (it needs paint anyway) and it worked quite well... look up a video on Youtube...

When you say the tank is in bad shape, do you mean rusty on the insde?

Offline dirty fingernails

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 18
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2024, 01:34:03 PM »
Wow . Ooof . I will shop around or try and find another orange tank somewhere .

Offline M 750K6

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 284
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2024, 03:04:56 PM »
"Brick House Builds" YouTube channel removed a dent in his tank by inflating an inner tube inside the tank. Pushed it out. If you're going to bin it anyway, might be worth a try.

If you get the dent out, electrolysis or Vaporust could work on the inside of the tank. I've used white vinegar on a tank, to good effect, but it wasn't too bad to start with and took a few days to work. Not easy to clean the vinegar out afterwards, without causing flash rusting. I coated it with 2 stroke oil, until I was ready to use it.

Offline dirty fingernails

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 18
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2024, 08:57:45 PM »
here's the dent .

Offline newday777

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,260
  • Avatar is my 76 K6 in Colorado w/Cody on back 1980
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2024, 09:35:24 PM »
Wow . Ooof . I will shop around or try and find another orange tank somewhere .
I think I have a K3 orange (or it's a K4? Different stripe pattern) in my storeroom, but it's late, it's been a long, busy on the road day and tomorrow is too so I'm not sure when I can look to dig it out to check it for the year it is.
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

Offline jlh3rd

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,518
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2024, 05:11:31 AM »
here's the dent .

Not recommending this place over any others....but it costs nothing to send pics and see if it can be repaired.

Online BenelliSEI

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,931
  • 1969 cb750
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2024, 05:42:03 AM »
here's the dent .

Not recommending this place over any others....but it costs nothing to send pics and see if it can be repaired.

Worth checking! A local specialist saved a tank for me. Nothing beats “original” finishes.

Offline Rayzerman

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 42
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2024, 06:16:03 PM »
After watching a few paintless dent repair videos, it becomes apparent some nasty dents can be fixed.  I link one video here but there are many... I used a cheap kit to pull 3 large dents out of my tank.  My paint was crap to start with, and I did manage to remove some paint... one comment on the video, the technique should be to pull starting at the edges of the dent, not the middle, and to "work" the metal with the tool and not try to pull it all in one shot... some videos by pros will show using a tap tool to work around the dent, etc.  If you don't want to go this way, then get a pro to do it... you (they) may be able to get tools in there that can help from the inside.... what have you got to lose?  If the attempted repair pulls paint off, then you need a repaint so just take your time.  This is one of those cases where you have to be prepared to be very patient and it will take quite a bit of time.  Creases are going to be tough, but it can be done.

Offline HondaMan

  • Someone took this pic of me before I became a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,851
  • ...not my choice, I was nicknamed...
    • Getting 'em Back on the Road
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2024, 07:18:02 PM »
I have successfully 'unbent' engine fins before, but the operative word is "patience". It takes a lot of time and repetitions with the tools to get it done. I didn't even have to repaint.
See SOHC4shop@gmail.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book

Link to website: www.SOHC4shop.com

Offline newday777

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,260
  • Avatar is my 76 K6 in Colorado w/Cody on back 1980
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2024, 02:40:15 AM »
After watching a few paintless dent repair videos, it becomes apparent some nasty dents can be fixed.  I link one video here but there are many... I used a cheap kit to pull 3 large dents out of my tank.  My paint was crap to start with, and I did manage to remove some paint... one comment on the video, the technique should be to pull starting at the edges of the dent, not the middle, and to "work" the metal with the tool and not try to pull it all in one shot... some videos by pros will show using a tap tool to work around the dent, etc.  If you don't want to go this way, then get a pro to do it... you (they) may be able to get tools in there that can help from the inside.... what have you got to lose?  If the attempted repair pulls paint off, then you need a repaint so just take your time.  This is one of those cases where you have to be prepared to be very patient and it will take quite a bit of time.  Creases are going to be tough, but it can be done.

I've looked at a bunch of PDR repair videos investigating if I want to do my own tanks, there's a lot of tools to invest lots of dollars in to do the repairs. I've had a local PDR guy fix several tanks for me, his repairs have been between $100-$375 depending on the damage. It's been well worth letting him do it.

Some crazy dents in this car tree damaged, all repaired with PDR tools in this video. So yes, it can be done.

Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

Offline jlh3rd

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,518
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2024, 04:09:05 AM »
And one of the "tricks" in motorcycle tank repair is having the rig to hold the tank so that leverage can be used in the PDR  process without messing the tank up someplace else.
My limited experience/knowledge on re-bending metal that I learned is to "reverse the hit". IOW's , picture how the hit occured, angles, place of impact, and "reverse it".
So, yep, you begin by working outward in.....as stated , patiently.
I've "saved" stuff from a "totaled" minivan to repairing buggered JIS screw/bolt heads.

tools aren't cheap.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2024, 04:15:51 AM by jlh3rd »

Offline MauiK3

  • A K3 is saved
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,283
  • Old guy
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2024, 06:45:19 AM »
I've seen, and owned, worse that got repaired. You will likely need a repaint though
1973 CB 750 K3
10/72 build Z1 Kawasaki

Offline Stev-o

  • Ain't no
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 34,324
  • Central Texas
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2024, 07:55:57 AM »
Paint the maroon tank since you dont have matching side covers.
'74 "Big Bang" Honda 750K [836].....'76 Honda 550F.....K3 Park Racer!......and a Bomber!............plus plus plus.........

Offline dirty fingernails

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 18
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2024, 07:20:02 PM »
Not seeing the dent in the orange tank from your pic.... it may be worth trying a paintless dent repair... kit from AliExpress is cheap, hot melt glue the puller piece onto the tank, and pull gently with the tool, working the dent out.  Start at the edges and work your way into the center.... I just did this on my tank (it needs paint anyway) and it worked quite well... look up a video on Youtube...

When you say the tank is in bad shape, do you mean rusty on the insde?
Yes , it was coated before I owned it and its bad , all flaking and nasty . As well as the dent .

Offline RAFster122s

  • I feel like a really really
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,367
  • SOHC4 member # 2605
Re: To paint or not
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2024, 01:37:45 AM »
Jeff at Godfrey's Garage does tank repairs and customizations. Not gonna be cheap and will require repaint. The Yamiya tanks aren't a bad deal if you cannot paint it yourself. Just a lot of money. I would be surprised if a PDR guy unless very very skilled would be able to fix that. Jeff can strip the tank, have it stripped and then you can address rust and reline it. Powder coat shops can strip powder coat finishes before replaced paying things, some have used them to get oiled bare tanks back or bare parts back. Just have to take a few parts and talk to them about it and be clear on expectations and what they can deliver or not deliver.
They are only original once, hours looks nice enough to see if the pdr guys can do it but not just any pdr guy. He has to have experience with tanks. John, BenelliSei, had a tank pdr'd and he had to build tank stand for guy. He built one that was stout but PDR guy still destroyed it, but he got the work done and it was super nice.
David
David- back in the desert SW!