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75F turn signal switch
« on: November 15, 2024, 08:41:47 AM »
I need a turn signal switch  #33400-377-671
Question: what yrs and Different cc bikes are compatible ?
 Anyone got one for sale ?


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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2024, 02:57:27 PM »
I need a turn signal switch  #33400-377-671
Question: what yrs and Different cc bikes are compatible ?
 Anyone got one for sale ?


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That isn't the number for the switch.
That is the number for the Turn signal itself.
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2024, 03:00:45 PM »
Thanks do you know the turn signal switch part number?


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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2024, 04:05:38 PM »
35200-390-671
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2024, 04:11:56 PM »
Heres an aftermarket switch
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2024, 04:28:53 PM »
Here’s another one…..

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2024, 11:44:43 AM »
 Be sure it has the dimmer switch on it.
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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2024, 03:31:09 PM »
Be sure it has the dimmer switch on it.
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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2024, 03:34:07 PM »
Heres an aftermarket switch
I appreciate the help ,im looking for OEM ,which means
next to low beam was a selection that allowed the lights to be off.much less drain on the battery
……i love this site but before some dumb#$%*er says “ kickstart it “ and i say “ never thought of that”
i have some issues that make it hard to kick start it some times
thanks ahead of time


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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2024, 07:07:11 PM »
Please forgive my curiosity but being from the UK our switchgear has the option to turn the lights off as standard, however I understand that in the states always on lights were the rule so that’s not an option for you. However our left hand switch gear was essentially the same as the states except we got a passing light flasher and horn button combined, you just got the horn button. What neither got to my knowledge was a light dimmer, are you trying to say that putting the hi/low switch in a middle position essentially cut the lights off? And if so do the aftermarket switches not also do this?

What’s wrong with the existing switchgear btw? Maybe it’s repairable?

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2024, 09:38:27 PM »
There was NOT an option to turn off the headlight on a 75/76 CB750F. Don't we wish!!! High or Low were the only 2 options. And NOT a middle OFF position either.

I didn't see which bike you mention other than 75 F. Your part number you mention is not for a 75/76 CB750F.

Left switch 35200-390-671 High/Low
Right switch 35130-377-670 Starter/Kill

Perhaps OddJob can give you their European part number. If so maybe CSMNL.com can source it for you and you can hack into the wiring harness and make it work for you if you just have to have OEM.

As of today 3/13/2012 my original owner 75 CB750F has made it through 3 wives, er EX-wives. Free at last.  ;-)

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2024, 10:42:36 PM »
Hmmmmm.. I m sorry u r right in 75 there was not however in earlier yes there were .i have and old switch from dont know when and it certainly has an option for no light on


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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2024, 10:59:31 PM »
Please forgive my curiosity but being from the UK our switchgear has the option to turn the lights off as standard, however I understand that in the states always on lights were the rule so that’s not an option for you. However our left hand switch gear was essentially the same as the states except we got a passing light flasher and horn button combined, you just got the horn button. What neither got to my knowledge was a light dimmer, are you trying to say that putting the hi/low switch in a middle position essentially cut the lights off? And if so do the aftermarket switches not also do this?

What’s wrong with the existing switchgear btw? Maybe it’s repairable?
So i can take a a Keyed ignition  ( those aftermarket’s that fit in between the tach and speedos on Suppert sports, forget the manufacturer right now )and wire it so i can start the bike in Run ,with no lights on and then move the key to Park position making the lights now come on when i want to  . If you look at the schematic u see the stock ignition switch has 2 wires w/a yellow stripe , ?that are Siamese’s together right outside the ignition switch
I’m going to post a pix to make this easier



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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2024, 11:03:26 PM »
There was NOT an option to turn off the headlight on a 75/76 CB750F. Don't we wish!!! High or Low were the only 2 options. And NOT a middle OFF position either.

I didn't see which bike you mention other than 75 F. Your part number you mention is not for a 75/76 CB750F.

Left switch 35200-390-671 High/Low
Right switch 35130-377-670 Starter/Kill

Perhaps OddJob can give you their European part number. If so maybe CSMNL.com can source it for you and you can hack into the wiring harness and make it work for you if you just have to have OEM.

Don’t know the year know I want one
Thnx for keeping me honest


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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2024, 01:44:27 AM »
Hmmmmm.. I m sorry u r right in 75 there was not however in earlier yes there were .i have and old switch from dont know when and it certainly has an option for no light on


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Hmmmmmmm......so you are customizing your wiring and switches.......you didn't say you wanted to do that in the beginning of this thread. Are you able to figure out using multiple differences in the harnesses of different years/models as there are in what you want to do. Sorry but my 4am fog brain doesn't have the remembering to guide you to do so as it will take far longer to look at multiple harness diagrams that are down in the shop, 100' away, down through the cold barn stairways and I'm laying here in my nice warm bed still, then off to work later on when I get up, go to work on a cold garage job(20°F here this morning) wiring it for a customer, that has an unconventional 1960s old wired house that taxed my mind yesterday to make it more modern switching........so I don't have the time either at this point as they want their new garage finished up so she doesn't have to continue to park outside in the cold and snow that is about to hit here.

That picture of the early kill/start/(headlight)off-low-hi switch(right handlebar) isn't the turn signal switch(left handlebar) you asked for originally in this thread. Lots of monkeys thrown in here in the middle of the night.......

This switch you pictured is a right hand start/kill/headlight  control from a K model- most likely from a 1970-71 K0/K1.
Your 75F you say you have, will take some siffering to do that changeover. Are you up to it????? It's definitely not a plug and play job.
Where is Griffith(your profile location)?????
« Last Edit: December 04, 2024, 01:52:29 AM by newday777 »
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2024, 01:57:18 AM »
Please forgive my curiosity but being from the UK our switchgear has the option to turn the lights off as standard, however I understand that in the states always on lights were the rule so that’s not an option for you. However our left hand switch gear was essentially the same as the states except we got a passing light flasher and horn button combined, you just got the horn button. What neither got to my knowledge was a light dimmer, are you trying to say that putting the hi/low switch in a middle position essentially cut the lights off? And if so do the aftermarket switches not also do this?

What’s wrong with the existing switchgear btw? Maybe it’s repairable?
So i can take a a Keyed ignition  ( those aftermarket’s that fit in between the tach and speedos on Suppert sports, forget the manufacturer right now )and wire it so i can start the bike in Run ,with no lights on and then move the key to Park position making the lights now come on when i want to  . If you look at the schematic u see the stock ignition switch has 2 wires w/a yellow stripe , ?that are Siamese’s together right outside the ignition switch
I’m going to post a pix to make this easier



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That's a nightmare in the works you are doing.....
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2024, 04:57:43 AM »
Please forgive me if this sounds at all condescending but to me it looks like you're using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut, the switch you pictured is not the one you want, yes it would work BUT that's a switch from something like an early 750 or 500, notice it has high/low on it and your left hand switch should also have hi/lo on it, so duplicating some wiring, which only makes thing complicated.

This is the switch to marry up with your left hand one https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb550f2-super-sport-550-four-1977-england_model17121/swassy-statkill_35150377013/ notice it only has 3 positions for the lights, off, park or pilot and headlight, you select the hi/low with the left hand switch. Park or pilot would keep the sidelights on, if the states has those of course, so the small bulb under the headlight bulb and the rear light, off would of course switch all the lights off. You would of course have to remember to switch them back on again after starting.

If however you are not bothered about fitting original switches there is another option. Modern switchgear has the lights running through the starter switch, so when you go to start the bike and press the button it breaks the contact keeping the lights lit and starts the bike without that drain, as soon as you release the button the lights come back on. To me that sounds a better option, it should also be simple enough to wire in as Honda tended to keep the wire colours the same throughout the years.

What model bike is this actually for?

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2024, 06:10:36 AM »
This is nice of u
As years has gone on different things like this switch have been in” come and get it “ deals . I only assumed it was a switch for an older 750 .
   Thanks for your help . I have found a way to make the headlights not come on when I start the bike . I was texting a member last night and it should be in the thread
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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2024, 06:13:48 AM »
I’ll let u know how it turns out as right now a a car problem and impending vacation is keeping from my garage
…… what ur and how many 750s do u have ? Not a chopper guy by chance?


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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2024, 07:47:35 AM »
I don't own 750s, not a fan TBH, I prefer the 500 and 550s myself.

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2024, 07:48:43 AM »
Thnks over here 20 yrs ago 750s were everywhere and I hardly saw a 550/500


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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2024, 08:17:49 AM »
Well Don , the end goal is to control when the head lights are on .
    I had a switch from a honda I posted a pic of , it was not for a 750 , ODDJob. Told me that. I want the lights OFF when I start the bike , I can’t kick start the bike ( health )
   I inevitably talked to an electrician here at work and he showed me a way to wire the keyed ignition of an aftermarket ignition and it works .
There’s pix of that ,also a hard to see picture diagram .
    Thanks for writting and I’m glad I was able to explain this, it was clearly important 2u since you wrote .


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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2024, 09:31:55 PM »
 What I did on my 76F1 cb750 was to install a right switch for a USA 1973 cb750K3 it has the off/on headlight switch. I have also installed the euro type off/park/on right side switch on a cb750 and a cb400F. The wiring is there already, you just need to hook up the wires like Honda intended like the other countries bikes got.
  The 400F had a jumper that needed removed then all of the colors matched, and it all worked as if it was sent to Europe when it was new.
   I also installed the in-headlight parking lamp on one or two. My current Hot Rod 836 bike has the switch of a stock K2 but I wired the parking lamp to run all of the time with a small yellow LED bulb. That way I can forget to turn the lights on in the daytime and still shouldn't get a ticket.
 David silver spares is a good source of the euro switches and lights since he is based in England and ships to his warehouse in Pennsylvania. You just select the non-US bikes on the site.
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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2024, 12:50:06 AM »
Don's idea of the 73 right hand switch should be "perhaps" a somewhat easy way to accomplish your objective considering the right hand starter button uses a momentary headlight disconnect I'm thinking. Figure out which one wire that is and transfer that to the off/on headlight switch. Considering the weak old charging systems and all the voltage leaks/loss throughout the harnesses it might come in handy at times of low voltage to turn off your headlight vs removing the fuse.
As of today 3/13/2012 my original owner 75 CB750F has made it through 3 wives, er EX-wives. Free at last.  ;-)

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2024, 04:15:31 PM »
Be carefull trying to fit an early rh switch to a later bike as the starters buttons work differently, early grounds the solenoid, later powers the solenoid
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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2024, 01:24:24 AM »
Be carefull trying to fit an early rh switch to a later bike as the starters buttons work differently, early grounds the solenoid, later powers the solenoid

I ran into this problem just last week with my '76 GL1000.  I had bought a right hand switch that had the off/ low/ high beam for the headlight and the switch had the start button single wire to ground set up.  What I did was purchase another aftermarket switch for the '76 year, take it apart and then combine the top half of the switch I wanted with the '76 bottom half with the 3 wire start button. 

The above fusion of the two switch halves isn't for the faint of heart!  Very careful documentation of wiring before original switch removal is important!!!  Also, you need to remove the vinyl sheath from the wires.  In my case I had to unsolder and replace the switch wires that came with the new switches as my handlebars are a higher rise which necessitates using longer wires.  The '76 GL1000 and CB750 (and earlier years) have the wires going inside the handlebars.  The above wiring set up has a lot of wires to put through the bars!  I ended up using short pieces of vinyl sheathing as protection for the harness where the wires enter and exit the handle bars.  I also bought waxed cable lacing twine and cable stitched the entire length of the switch harness making sure all the wires were parellel to one another so the entire length of the combined wires were the smallest diameter possible.  This made feeding the thicker switch harness through the bars fairly easy compared to a sheathed stock switch harness where the wires not parallel.

I have done this modification to both my CB750K and my GL1000 and everything works properly.  It is time consuming and can be frustrating but it is doable. 

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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2024, 02:05:13 AM »
Its easier to alter the solenoid wiring
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Re: 75F turn signal switch
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2024, 02:40:11 AM »
Its easier to alter the solenoid wiring

I had thought about doing this but the diode safety interlock on the GL1000 made doing this more complicated and modifying the main wiring harness, which I did not want to do.  On the CB750, it is easier to do the start switch to ground mod for the solenoid.

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