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Offline Bigmant

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Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« on: December 21, 2024, 12:03:05 PM »
Hey gang!

Just curious if anyone has any idea how this may make the throttle on a Cb750K feel as easy as a modern bike? My spring is SO heavy that my forearm is burning after about 20min. Wondering if this guy somehow figured out something clever!
‘73 CB750 K3 Owned by my father and now me

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Offline bryanj

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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2024, 02:36:18 PM »
No idea but what is going on below?
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Offline denward17

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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2024, 02:56:26 PM »
No idea but what is going on below?

Air pods?

Offline Bigmant

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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2024, 05:06:29 PM »
No idea but what is going on below?

Yea AirPods
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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2024, 12:39:28 AM »
Stock spring is very hard on these carbs.
I found a weaker spring at Webike. Not cheap but painless throttling without the throttle grip rubber twist on its tube. Important that cables are routed so return will work by let go off the grip.

My Mikuni TMR32 carbs need very little to lift. Despite that a quick return.
I think my old Mikuni Smoothbore VM29 was easy to handle too.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2024, 11:32:54 PM by PeWe »
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CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

Offline pjlogue

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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2024, 01:48:29 AM »
I replaced my throttle spring with a similar length spring with lighter coils.  The throttle is much easier on the wrist now but will still return to a closed position if I let go of the grip.  I found the springs at Lowes.

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Offline rotortiller

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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2024, 04:10:58 AM »
There are also thicker grips available offering a better leverage however the wrist travel is longer with the larger circumference. And then there are those throttle brake thingies. Not a problem for some, as wankers do have a very strong wrist lol!  :)

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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2024, 08:46:02 AM »
I just stretched mine and it works fine.
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Offline Bigmant

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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2024, 01:25:37 PM »
I also found a similar length spring with a lighter compression at ACE hardware. Works like a charm. The bike in the picture though looks to have two springs, and the rubber is covering where the two hooks join. I’m amazed it worked so well despite looking somewhat janky.
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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2024, 05:05:36 PM »
Fit a small split ring, like a key ring, I fit some around 8mm and that reduces the amount of strength needed to pull it by around 20%.

I fit the ring around the lower peg when I have carbs apart, then just hook the spring onto the ring. If you haven't got carbs apart I suppose you could try and thread it on.

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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2024, 07:27:17 PM »
I’m wondering why someone would split the throttle springs into two springs and then tie it back with a spring. Why not just use a lighter spring?
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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2024, 07:30:18 PM »
Here it is again, I’ve brightened the picture up a bit.
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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2024, 10:31:07 PM »
Spring is attached too high?
Here a set when I assembled them.
See green arrow where the pin is for spring upper attachment.
And yes, the seen holes in chromed parts have not yet got the bolts when photo was taken ;)
« Last Edit: December 28, 2024, 11:04:51 PM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

Offline Steve_K

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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2025, 05:25:32 PM »
Back in the 70s I had VWs and noticed the spring from the VW carb would fit,  Needed careful cable routing and it worked fine on my 74 CB550.  It might work on the 750s
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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #14 on: Today at 01:52:15 AM »
also have clean bar end and throttle tube,use graphite powder not any wet type lube like grease or oil,be sure the grip end isnt fouling on the bar end or its flange at the cable housing,with a lighter spring it should feel much better and snappier.

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Re: Can anyone explain this throttle spring?
« Reply #15 on: Today at 04:40:53 AM »
also have clean bar end and throttle tube,use graphite powder not any wet type lube like grease or oil,be sure the grip end isnt fouling on the bar end or its flange at the cable housing,with a lighter spring it should feel much better and snappier.
Good point Dave.
I had a goldwing that I brought back to life that had a gummed up throttle tube and handlebar. I had to clean them out to get the throttle to operate correctly. Dry graphite powder is the best lube in there so you don't get dirt contamination gum.
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1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
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1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
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