Topic: Spin On Oil Filters

[BenelliSEI]

Changed the oil on my Honda Varadero and noticed the WIX filter that was on the bike is 50% taller than the #204 I picked up. Found a guy on YouTube that dismantles and compares all kinds of filters. He did a Harley filter vs the matching WIX and concluded the WIX is far superior….. Interesting. Found a WIX for my bike.

[willbird]

Changed the oil on my Honda Varadero and noticed the WIX filter that was on the bike is 50% taller than the #204 I picked up. Found a guy on YouTube that dismantles and compares all kinds of filters. He did a Harley filter vs the matching WIX and concluded the WIX is far superior….. Interesting. Found a WIX for my bike.

Sounds like somebody recently bought WIX and things are not as they always were with the brand. The one article I read said to carefully inspect each filter and decide whether to use or not. NAPA Gold was WIX but maybe not now ?? Some liked them better than the "new production" WIX as far as apparent overall build quality. Shame really because I always loved WIX.

[BenelliSEI]

Changed the oil on my Honda Varadero and noticed the WIX filter that was on the bike is 50% taller than the #204 I picked up. Found a guy on YouTube that dismantles and compares all kinds of filters. He did a Harley filter vs the matching WIX and concluded the WIX is far superior….. Interesting. Found a WIX for my bike.

Sounds like somebody recently bought WIX and things are not as they always were with the brand. The one article I read said to carefully inspect each filter and decide whether to use or not. NAPA Gold was WIX but maybe not now ?? Some liked them better than the "new production" WIX as far as apparent overall build quality. Shame really because I always loved WIX.

Thanks. I’ll keep an eye on it!

[CycleRanger]

Imho Wix are still the best.
I use the Napa Gold filters on my truck as it is my understanding that they are Wix.

There's a bunch of youtube videos comparing oil filter brands and many of them are really bad.

[BenelliSEI]

Imho Wix are still the best.
I use the Napa Gold filters on my truck as it is my understanding that they are Wix.

There's a bunch of youtube videos comparing oil filter brands and many of them are really bad.

I watched a few of those videos and WIX certainly gets my vote for know. My Volvo C30 uses an old style cartridge filter and the WIX filter looks very good.

[willbird]

Imho Wix are still the best.
I use the Napa Gold filters on my truck as it is my understanding that they are Wix.

There's a bunch of youtube videos comparing oil filter brands and many of them are really bad.

Wix made NapaGold oil filters until September 2023, when Premium Guard became the new supplier. Folks are saying the Premium Guard are more consistent quality than current WIX, Mann+Hummel acquired WIX in 2016.
Bill

[RAFster122s]

Mann filters, they build for the Mini Cooper appear to be high quality, they too are a cartridge filter.

[BenelliSEI]

Mann filters, they build for the Mini Cooper appear to be high quality, they too are a cartridge filter.

It’s amazing to me that any manufacturer still uses cartridge filters. The last one I had was on an Austin Healey 3000! The Volvo one is even upside down. After removing the cap (being very careful as some genius decided it should be plastic) you have to lift the sloppy mess out the top, across the rad and nose…..

[willbird]

Mann filters, they build for the Mini Cooper appear to be high quality, they too are a cartridge filter.

It’s amazing to me that any manufacturer still uses cartridge filters. The last one I had was on an Austin Healey 3000! The Volvo one is even upside down. After removing the cap (being very careful as some genius decided it should be plastic) you have to lift the sloppy mess out the top, across the rad and nose…..

IMHO they all started using them again to help avoid needing to crush steel filters with all the "stuff" inside. The part of a Toyota filter that is "waste" might only weigh an ounce or two dry.

[RAFster122s]

I'm amazed and shocked by the amount of plastics that BMW and Mini use on their engines and mating seals from plastic parts to the engine block with silicone seal in the plastic part.

[CycleRanger]

Imho Wix are still the best.
I use the Napa Gold filters on my truck as it is my understanding that they are Wix.

There's a bunch of youtube videos comparing oil filter brands and many of them are really bad.

Wix made NapaGold oil filters until September 2023, when Premium Guard became the new supplier. Folks are saying the Premium Guard are more consistent quality than current WIX, Mann+Hummel acquired WIX in 2016.
Bill

Huh, ok, good to know!

[simon#42]

I'm amazed and shocked by the amount of plastics that BMW and Mini use on their engines and mating seals from plastic parts to the engine block with silicone seal in the plastic part.

not just bmw and mini all the european manufacturers use it for pretty much everything .

[BenelliSEI]

Mann filters, they build for the Mini Cooper appear to be high quality, they too are a cartridge filter.

It’s amazing to me that any manufacturer still uses cartridge filters. The last one I had was on an Austin Healey 3000! The Volvo one is even upside down. After removing the cap (being very careful as some genius decided it should be plastic) you have to lift the sloppy mess out the top, across the rad and nose…..

IMHO they all started using them again to help avoid needing to crush steel filters with all the "stuff" inside. The part of a Toyota filter that is "waste" might only weigh an ounce or two dry.

Good point. May have to rethink my objections!

[BenelliSEI]

Gave the Varadero its first oil change. The drain plug is in the left rear corner of the pan (wet sump), so I left it on the side stand for a few days. Slid a 2” X 4” under the front wheel to get full drainage. No more Mobil 1 4T Synthetic (ridiculously priced in Canada). Going back to the recommend Honda GN4.

Ordered the correct Hi-Flo 204 spin on oil filter, but when I removed the WIX 51358 filter that was on the bike, noticed that it’s at least 50% larger than the Hi-Flo. Same diameter, but much taller. Used a WIX.

[newday777]

Gave the Varadero its first oil change. The drain plug is in the left rear corner of the pan (wet sump), so I left it on the side stand for a few days. Slid a 2” X 4” under the front wheel to get full drainage. No more Mobil 1 4T Synthetic (ridiculously priced in Canada). Going back to the recommend Honda GN4.

Ordered the correct Hi-Flo 204 spin on oil filter, but when I removed the WIX 51358 filter that was on the bike, noticed that it’s at least 50% larger than the Hi-Flo. Same diameter, but much taller. Used a WIX.

I use the HiFlow hf303RC in place of the hf204 that is normally on a goldwing. RC has the 27mm nut on the end to use a regular wrench to get it off with.
The 303 has more capacity.

[Tracksnblades1]

Mann filters, they build for the Mini Cooper appear to be high quality, they too are a cartridge filter.

It’s amazing to me that any manufacturer still uses cartridge filters. The last one I had was on an Austin Healey 3000! The Volvo one is even upside down. After removing the cap (being very careful as some genius decided it should be plastic) you have to lift the sloppy mess out the top, across the rad and nose…..

It not like the old 327s… Check out Toyota's. Each very well made cartridge filter comes with the drip less quick dump attachment and orings for both..looks like a similar set up like heavy excavators and such heavy equipment uses that has large quantities of used oil to be drained quickly and directly in a container with minimal spillage..Only in micro miniature size…

My wife’s AWD Venza’s oil that I drain out never looks much different than the 6 quarts of new oil going in..
Something must be working right..

I wonder if WIX manufacturing went to China and they’re having start up quality control issues..
Donaldson makes a lot of everybody’s filters..filter housings…mufflers..etc…