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Offline Mikerts_Garage

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Has Anyone Tried Ball-Type Grease Gun Couplers?
« on: January 17, 2025, 10:32:57 AM »
After extensively looking into the grease fittings on these old bikes there are 2 main schools of thought:

First(most popular): Remove stock smooth-style grease fittings and tap threads for new-style zerk fittings, which can be found at any auto parts or hardware store. 

Second: Jam grease gun onto stock fittings as hard as possible and squeeze like a S.O.B.

I ran into these fitting in my search for other solutions: https://www.saeproducts.com/ball-type-grease-nipples.html

Which then led me to this specific coupler: https://www.saeproducts.com/ball-type-coupler.html

I am very curious to know if anyone has/ has tried this style of coupler on the older Japanese SOHC4 fittings. I would buy one out of curiosity, however they are like $45  :-\

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Re: Has Anyone Tried Ball-Type Grease Gun Couplers?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2025, 10:40:57 AM »
I haven't.
I went to the tapped 5mm zerk fitting.
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Re: Has Anyone Tried Ball-Type Grease Gun Couplers?
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2025, 03:22:56 PM »
I use the second method - only difference from using standard grease nipples is that you have to hold the grease gun fitting all the way on while you pump the grease in - the faster you try to pump the grease in the more force it will take to hold the fitting on - I pump the grease in very slowly while pressing the fitting on very hard - if the fitting pushes away from the nipple either I wasn't holding it on hard enough or there is a blockage somewhere inside.
If grease always goes everywhere but into the nipple you need a new fitting on the end (or a new grease gun).
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Re: Has Anyone Tried Ball-Type Grease Gun Couplers?
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2025, 04:45:00 PM »
$45 seems like a lot for such a small fitting.
Surely those are available cheaper somewhere else, now that you know what to look for.

As an aside, thanks for posting that. A few months ago I was going through the workshop of a friend of mines father-in-law who passed away and found a grease gun with a similar fitting.
I wasn't sure exactly what it was for but looking at that photo it looks the same. I think it might be missing the rubber seal.
Now I suspect he probably used in on his ancient Kubota tractor.
I haven't tried it yet on any of my bikes. I only have couple that I haven't replaced the zerks already.
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Re: Has Anyone Tried Ball-Type Grease Gun Couplers?
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2025, 07:14:21 PM »
I haven't.
I went to the tapped 5mm zerk fitting.

I do the same.

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Re: Has Anyone Tried Ball-Type Grease Gun Couplers?
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2025, 07:36:52 PM »
 I'm not sure of the thread but I swapped a few Zerks out also. It's not too difficult and they work so much easier. I also added a grease path on one or two like shown in Mark's book.
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Re: Has Anyone Tried Ball-Type Grease Gun Couplers?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2025, 02:52:12 AM »
if youve got an old barn find or weathered bike the grease WILL be rock hard set and wont budge full stop no matter how hard you hold the wrong fitting against that pressure,no one greased em much in the day anyway?once restored cleaned up with proper zerks a pump of grease once a year will do.

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Re: Has Anyone Tried Ball-Type Grease Gun Couplers?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2025, 03:55:09 PM »
$45 seems like a lot for such a small fitting.

As an aside, thanks for posting that. A few months ago I was going through the workshop of a friend of mines father-in-law who passed away and found a grease gun with a similar fitting.
I wasn't sure exactly what it was for but looking at that photo it looks the same. I think it might be missing the rubber seal.
Now I suspect he probably used in on his ancient Kubota tractor.
I haven't tried it yet on any of my bikes. I only have couple that I haven't replaced the zerks already.

I agree, $45 is outrageous.

If you do end up trying that coupler on the older fittings I'd love to know the results, preferably with pictures of course!

if youve got an old barn find or weathered bike the grease WILL be rock hard set and wont budge full stop no matter how hard you hold the wrong fitting against that pressure,no one greased em much in the day anyway?once restored cleaned up with proper zerks a pump of grease once a year will do.

This is important information for sure, I always disassemble and re-grease when I don't know the history of the bike.

I use the second method - only difference from using standard grease nipples is that you have to hold the grease gun fitting all the way on while you pump the grease in - the faster you try to pump the grease in the more force it will take to hold the fitting on - I pump the grease in very slowly while pressing the fitting on very hard - if the fitting pushes away from the nipple either I wasn't holding it on hard enough or there is a blockage somewhere inside.
If grease always goes everywhere but into the nipple you need a new fitting on the end (or a new grease gun).
John

This is also my current method. I have a few too many bikes to want to replace the fittings on all of them.

My biggest curiosity is if this fitting I found will reduce the mess of using the old fittings.
Running and Riding: 71' Honda CT90, 73' Honda CB350F, 20' KTM EXC-F 500.

In Progress: 70' Suzuki TS90, 74' Honda CB750K

Back Burner: 66' Honda CB160, 73' Yamaha TX650

Forgotten in the Oven: 70' Honda CL350, 77' Honda XL350

Others I have mechanical custody of: 69' Honda CL125, 71' Honda CT90, 74' Honda Z50, 77' CB550F, 79' Honda CX500