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Offline Ozzybud

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Tank rust removal.
« on: January 17, 2025, 03:19:53 PM »
Good news turned to bad news after treating the CB350F tank with Evapo-Rust. I have included a before and after photo of the inside. I was amazed how clean it got the tank with only soaking  for 3 days.

Then I noticed on the forward edge there was 3 small blisters in the paint. Definitely pin holes coming from the inside out. The outside of the tank is almost flawless with the original paint.

I have some epoxy tank sealer in route. I am hoping to get it sealed up so I can ride it this summer. Does this type of sealer work? I am on the hunt for a decent tank that I can re-paint. Most of the ones on Ebay look worse inside  than mine.

Hopefully the sealer will work for the short term.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2025, 03:27:21 PM by Ozzybud »
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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2025, 03:32:06 PM »
I use Tech Steel as a great flexible sealer that becomes as solid as steel once set. It can be sanded, filed and worked once it has set hard. It is impervious to gasoline or any diesel etc. I would think that JB Weld makes something close to this. It is a metal epoxy that is workable initially. In the case of Tech Steel it is rock solid in 15 minutes with  a full cure in 1 hr. JB Weld not so much with the quick set up times.
You should be able to use it long term as a pinhole sealant that will not deteriorate with time since I have used it for over a dozen years. I have even rebuilt broken fins on a cylinder or head with a thin wire scaffolding to support the new fin area. It has lasted for years in that set up too.




« Last Edit: January 17, 2025, 03:33:49 PM by Flyin900 »
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1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2025, 04:02:08 PM »
I use Tech Steel as a great flexible sealer that becomes as solid as steel once set. It can be sanded, filed and worked once it has set hard. It is impervious to gasoline or any diesel etc. I would think that JB Weld makes something close to this. It is a metal epoxy that is workable initially. In the case of Tech Steel it is rock solid in 15 minutes with  a full cure in 1 hr. JB Weld not so much with the quick set up times.
You should be able to use it long term as a pinhole sealant that will not deteriorate with time since I have used it for over a dozen years. I have even rebuilt broken fins on a cylinder or head with a thin wire scaffolding to support the new fin area. It has lasted for years in that set up too.

I am a little hesitant to strip and re finish this tank. I am assuming that the metal is paper thin and with 3 showing now 30 more pinholes are ready to pop through.
I bought some inside of the tank coating (Caswell Epoxy). I am hoping That will seal it up.
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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2025, 04:15:05 PM »
Brickhouse Builds on YouTube just did a video on Caswell coating a tank.
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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2025, 04:35:35 PM »
Brickhouse Builds on YouTube just did a video on Caswell coating a tank.

Thank you... great video!
Looks like i bought the right product!
1976 Z50A YELLOW
1970 CT70 BLUE
1971 CT70H ORANGE
1972 CT70H GREEN
1973 CL200 BLUE
1973 CB350F RED
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1976 CB750F RED

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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2025, 04:37:20 PM »
Good news turned to bad news after treating the CB350F tank with Evapo-Rust. I have included a before and after photo of the inside. I was amazed how clean it got the tank with only soaking  for 3 days.

Then I noticed on the forward edge there was 3 small blisters in the paint. Definitely pin holes coming from the inside out. The outside of the tank is almost flawless with the original paint.

I have some epoxy tank sealer in route. I am hoping to get it sealed up so I can ride it this summer. Does this type of sealer work? I am on the hunt for a decent tank that I can re-paint. Most of the ones on Ebay look worse inside  than mine.

Hopefully the sealer will work for the short term.
How much Evaporust did you put in the tank?

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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2025, 04:41:36 PM »
Good news turned to bad news after treating the CB350F tank with Evapo-Rust. I have included a before and after photo of the inside. I was amazed how clean it got the tank with only soaking  for 3 days.

Then I noticed on the forward edge there was 3 small blisters in the paint. Definitely pin holes coming from the inside out. The outside of the tank is almost flawless with the original paint.

I have some epoxy tank sealer in route. I am hoping to get it sealed up so I can ride it this summer. Does this type of sealer work? I am on the hunt for a decent tank that I can re-paint. Most of the ones on Ebay look worse inside  than mine.

100 percent full 3+gallons

Hopefully the sealer will work for the short term.
How much Evaporust did you put in the tank?

100 percent full 3+ gallons.
1976 Z50A YELLOW
1970 CT70 BLUE
1971 CT70H ORANGE
1972 CT70H GREEN
1973 CL200 BLUE
1973 CB350F RED
1975 CB360T RED
1975 CB400F BLUE
1975 CB550 ORANGE
1976 CB750F RED

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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2025, 05:05:02 PM »
Brickhouse Builds on YouTube just did a video on Caswell coating a tank.

Thank you... great video!
Looks like i bought the right product!
You are welcome. I just saw it last night.
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2025, 06:14:54 PM »
I am a little hesitant to strip and re finish this tank. I am assuming that the metal is paper thin and with 3 showing now 30 more pinholes are ready to pop through.
I bought some inside of the tank coating (Caswell Epoxy). I am hoping That will seal it up.
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The Caswells makes better sense for the pin holes in the upper area of your tank. I suspected it was the seam or bottom area of the tank where they are mostly evident on many tanks.

FYI on the Caswells I found it a very thick consistency and poorly coating of the entire tank area easily when the tank was rolled around. I recommend using a thinner as noted in the instructions to thin and allow the material to flow around the interior of the tank easier. Acetone works very well as the thinner for this purpose.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2025, 06:21:40 PM by Flyin900 »
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1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
1984 GL1200 - Goldwing Standard

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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2025, 09:21:25 PM »
+1 on thinning it...I used it once an did not and it was very difficult to get it everywhere inside.  If you don't get full coverage the gas can get underneath and ruin the lining
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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2025, 10:57:53 AM »
I have heard many good things about POR-15 tank sealer. It comes with the needed prep cleaners for proper adhesion.
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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2025, 02:53:49 PM »
I've used POR15 many times and it works really well - BUT you must follow their instructions to the letter, especially about the tank being 100% dry before putting the lining product in. It's easy to think it is dry after a few hours but if you check the inside seams, they hold moisture and it takes many, many hours of blowing a heat gun in there to completely dry it out.

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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2025, 03:04:34 PM »
I've used POR15 many times and it works really well - BUT you must follow their instructions to the letter, especially about the tank being 100% dry before putting the lining product in. It's easy to think it is dry after a few hours but if you check the inside seams, they hold moisture and it takes many, many hours of blowing a heat gun in there to completely dry it out.

Same, I've used it twice. Good results.
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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2025, 03:26:22 PM »
I've used POR15 many times and it works really well - BUT you must follow their instructions to the letter, especially about the tank being 100% dry before putting the lining product in. It's easy to think it is dry after a few hours but if you check the inside seams, they hold moisture and it takes many, many hours of blowing a heat gun in there to completely dry it out.

I am going to use the Caswell system as i have it in my possession. i flushed it thoroughly 3 days ago 3 times with Acetone going to wait a few more until i do the application... keeping my shop 75-80° in preparation.
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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2025, 07:08:29 PM »
The seams are critical to be dry before you seal up the tank no matter what liner you use. Trapping moisture leads to very bad results when that moisture causes rust and seal failure.
The POR product reacts with water flash curing and that is a week currently, it doesn't combine with all the water, leading to seam failure...

So, warm that tank up plenty to drive out the moisture in your prep.

Caswell is a good product, as is the POR...
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Re: Tank rust removal.
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2025, 08:35:18 AM »
 I did a Fibermold tank with Caswell, it is an old custom fiberglass tank. It holds 3 gallons tank and I had the large kit, so I mixed half of it. I could actually see the product flow through the bottom of the gel fiberglass and knew it was too thick so I mixed the second half of the kit and dumped it all in, thinned a little. I was able to get awesome coverage.
 Caswell is also able to protect the old fiberglass from alcohol.
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2025, 01:51:56 PM »
I did a Fibermold tank with Caswell, it is an old custom fiberglass tank. It holds 3 gallons tank and I had the large kit, so I mixed half of it. I could actually see the product flow through the bottom of the gel fiberglass and knew it was too thick so I mixed the second half of the kit and dumped it all in, thinned a little. I was able to get awesome coverage.
 Caswell is also able to protect the old fiberglass from alcohol.
I also have one of those tanks and another much larger Reed  Titan tank that both need lining.  How much have you actually used your Fibremold tank, Don?
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