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This Chopper Flys
« on: April 03, 2007, 10:21:47 AM »
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Re: This Chopper Flys
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2007, 11:19:03 AM »
Phil, that shot is too cool, I really like it!!!

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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2007, 11:20:07 AM »
I dont get it? Where is the honda emblem? ;D

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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2007, 07:59:27 PM »
Any military chopper mechanics here?
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2007, 08:18:09 PM »
Kiowa Warrior?
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Re: This Chopper Flys
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2007, 06:20:30 PM »
Kiowa Warrior?
It appears to be in that class. It is amazing how delicate the tail rotor looks. You can have a lot of system failures and bring your ship in. Without those two little blades doing their thing you are going in. The total gross weight of those little killing machines is less than Mom's SUV. About 5,000 lbs. This one looks like it is set up for recon.   
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2007, 06:31:23 PM »
The tail rotor of my BK-117 spins at 2197 RPM, the main rotor (four bladed rigid hub) spins @ 394 RPM at 100% Nr.  That aircraft is a Bell 206 under the Army green, the rotors probably spin in the same ballpark.  I used to spin wrenches on the CH-46E and MV-22B in the Marine Corps, I even have a few hundred hours of flight time too.     

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2007, 07:13:29 PM »
The tail rotor of my BK-117 spins at 2197 RPM, the main rotor (four bladed rigid hub) spins @ 394 RPM at 100% Nr.  That aircraft is a Bell 206 under the Army green, the rotors probably spin in the same ballpark.  I used to spin wrenches on the CH-46E and MV-22B in the Marine Corps, I even have a few hundred hours of flight time too.     
Man you went from the Phrog which is a legendary ship to a tiltrotor ship. Quite a resume.   
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2007, 07:43:51 PM »
The tail rotor of my BK-117 spins at 2197 RPM, the main rotor (four bladed rigid hub) spins @ 394 RPM at 100% Nr.  That aircraft is a Bell 206 under the Army green, the rotors probably spin in the same ballpark.  I used to spin wrenches on the CH-46E and MV-22B in the Marine Corps, I even have a few hundred hours of flight time too.     
Man you went from the Phrog which is a legendary ship to a tiltrotor ship. Quite a resume.   

CH-46 :) What is it they say in the Marine Corps? "Don't trust a chopper under 30" ;D

Maybe you can answer this for me hopterfixer? I never quite got why the USMC never adopted the Chinnook, which floats, rather than sticking with the Sea Knight, which doesn't ???

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Re: This Chopper Flys
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2007, 07:53:07 PM »
Kiowa Warrior?

Nah, its just a plain old Kiowa :) They are only Warriors if they've got weapons mounts ;)


PS: Hopterfixer it looks to me like an OH-58D, which is based on the Bell 406, which had bigger engines and a 4 blade rotor.
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2007, 05:37:24 AM »
You're right, it's 407, my bad.  But a 407 is just stretched, 206 airframe (in a nutshell).   ;).  Now people say never trust a Helicopter under 35, but it is getting close to 40.  The way I undertstood it, the Marine Corps had the Phrog before the Chinook came out, and it will float with HEFS (helicopter emergency flotation system) bags installed.  Being an amphibious force, we used to practice water landings and water taxiing.  I only worked/flew on Phrogs for two years, I spent 4 years with the V-22 both while I was in and then working for Bell when I got out.  The V-22 is an amazing machine to fly on.
I took this from the lead V-22.

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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 06:00:34 AM »
That is a nice Kawasaki chopper you have there. Very dependable. Most people don't know Kawasaki also makes ships, helicopters and trains. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2007, 06:03:24 AM »
I took this from the lead V-22.


That's a fantastic shot 8) From a passenger point of view, are they much different from a traditional chopper when in the air?

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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2007, 06:28:23 AM »
I am the technician, 24 hours a day on call.  The V-22 is smooth, quiet, and fast when the nacelles are at the down stops in airplane mode.  The rotor speed actually slows to 84% and it flys like a turboprop, meaning the swashplate no longer gimbals, the swashplate actuators increase or decrease pitch at the same rate.  It has a heavy sounding rotor beat when in helicopter mode, but still pretty smooth.  Both Rolls Royce T406 AD 400's put out 6,450 HP. 

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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2007, 06:40:11 AM »
It is amazing how fixed and rotary wing technology has been intergrated together. You must be an excellent tech to work on an advanced  craft like that.
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2007, 06:43:27 AM »
I used to fix this stuff:


on these:



Wish I could find a job doing that kind of thing now.  :'( ;D
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2007, 06:46:58 AM »
...and to think I have been avoiding this thread because I thought it was about motorcycle choppers... then I saw who started the thread and had to come have a peek.  Glad I did!  Great pics and info as usual!

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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2007, 06:52:39 AM »
I used to fix this stuff:


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Wish I could find a job doing that kind of thing now.  :'( ;D

Now that is what you call a Big Assed Mo' Fo' 8)

Although, not to it's face obviously :o
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2007, 07:19:18 AM »
Ah, the MH-53 Sea Stallion, Funny you should mention that.  I was at MCAS New River in VMMT-204 where we shared the hangar with HMT-302 the 53 training squadron for the Navy and Marine Corps.  My wife was a 53E mechanic and crewchief too.  I spent a few months on the Belleau Wood, watching a 53 land aboard shipwas like watching a controlled crash.  Those three GE's put out 4,500 HP each, the main rotor diameter is 78 feet and the aircraft is 104 feet long with the fuel probe retracted.   
My wife was on the aircraft in this photo.  They lifted this F-15 and another one in Florida a few years ago.  She said when they lifted the jet there was 42,000 lbs on the hook, putting the aircraft over 70,000!   

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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2007, 07:30:11 AM »
She said when they lifted the jet there was 42,000 lbs on the hook, putting the aircraft over 70,000!   

I am speechless.  Quite literally a flying semi truck.
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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2007, 07:33:19 AM »
A semi that will do 180 knots!

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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2007, 08:50:15 AM »
And to think that in civilian guise, we have to turn down obese patients as being over the aircraft's limits!

We used CH-53s (?) in Israel.  That's one unstoppable, impressive aircraft.  A mid-air collision some years back between two carrying troops into battle was a horrid sight by all reports.
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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2007, 08:20:23 PM »


       Now, I'm into all kind of Aircraft (especially fighters and bombers) and this stuff definitely has my attention! ;) 8) I never messed with any of this stuff but did crew an F4C Phantom and an F106 Delta Dart in the Air Force. Gotta give a lot of credit to those choppers and their crew too! ;) Keep this stuff coming. I Like It! I Like It!  ;D ;D

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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2007, 06:51:48 AM »
oooh-rah hopterfixer.that damn v-22 is a pos and i wouldnt be caught dead in a helicopter.
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2007, 07:06:07 AM »
Things have changed so much and the ships are so much more elegant and functional. Note my high tech targeting system:[/img]
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