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Re: GORDON'S FRAME KIT SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED!!!!! PICS
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2007, 03:47:58 PM »
as far as how fast thesee get to me it doesn't mater
just give me a price and I can send it which ever way you want
check, money order, pay-pal.

I am a toolmaker and own a specialized weld shop but I don't have time to
do all the machining that went in it that
I can cut square ends and measure the tubes

please send because I am ready

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Re: GORDON'S FRAME KIT SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED!!!!! PICS
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2007, 04:08:34 AM »
Jim, check your PM - it's 2 days old now. Guys, I'll have 5 more late next week. Jim's is first - send me a PM for preferences.

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Re: GORDON'S FRAME KIT SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED!!!!! PICS
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2007, 04:33:19 AM »
Sorry Gordon

Was busy in the shop the last couple of days
Got your PM this morning and replied

thanks again

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Re: GORDON'S FRAME KIT SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED!!!!! PICS
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2007, 12:36:08 PM »
Hi,
So im new on here, but I was sent to this site specifically to find this frame kit. I recently purchased a CB750 only to find someone had at one point chopped the frame supports and then kinda crappy welded them back in. I could really use this kit. Here are some pics of my bike with the cuts and welds. If anyone can give me contact info on how to get the kit that would be awesome. My email theparcelishot@hotmail.com.




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Re: GORDON'S FRAME KIT SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED!!!!! PICS
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2007, 01:29:38 PM »
Wow, that second pic is a little more than 'kinda' crappy. :o
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« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2007, 01:54:34 PM »
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Re: GORDON'S FRAME KIT SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED!!!!! PICS
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2007, 02:40:20 PM »
yeah it sucks. I could probably get away with leaving it alone, the guy who had it before had it just like that for a long time. But id rather fix it.

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« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2007, 04:55:51 PM »
PM Gordon (Ilbikes) in the post that is 2 posts prior to your pictures. Click on the little bubble in the bottom left. 
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Re: GORDON'S FRAME KIT SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED!!!!! PICS
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2007, 11:41:52 PM »
Back in the 70s and 80s we made and sold hundreds of those removable frame rail kits. All of the drag racers used them. Kinda cool to see this come back.

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« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2007, 04:39:09 AM »
Jay, I'd like to see one of the old kits. As I understand it, they had slip collars that pinned in place? I've been told I had these over-built. They have to be welded in-place. The idea came from looking at my ZRX and 1500 Nomad frames. These heavy engines sitting in the frame with jointed rails and 2 bolts at each end.

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Re: GORDON'S FRAME KIT SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED!!!!! PICS
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2007, 05:38:46 AM »
Hi,
So im new on here, but I was sent to this site specifically to find this frame kit. I recently purchased a CB750 only to find someone had at one point chopped the frame supports and then kinda crappy welded them back in. I could really use this kit. Here are some pics of my bike with the cuts and welds. If anyone can give me contact info on how to get the kit that would be awesome. My email theparcelishot@hotmail.com.



The first picture made me say, "That's not so crappy of a weld... not to bad actually." The second picture made me say, "YIKES!!! There's thee crappiness!"

THANKS GORDON!!!
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I wouldn't say your pictures are too bad. Clymers would hire you...   :o ;D ;)
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« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2007, 10:44:53 PM »
Gordon;

Our kits consisted of two replacement tubes that were held in place by four sleeves that connected them to the remaining frame parts with eight bolts. Not nearly as fance as yours, but they worked. Ours did not attempt to reconnect the straps to the top tube.

If I remember back that far, the kits sold for $29.95.  We did so many, that I can't believe there are not still a bunch of 750s out there with these kits in them.

Old drag racing rule books from the 70s and 80s all stated that Honda 750s could cut those tubes out and just leave them out. Didn't seem to hurt straight line handling.

Your kit is way nicer that what we did. And I would recommend it to anyone wanting to cut those tubes out today.


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« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2007, 11:14:59 PM »
Hi Jay, I noticed in the SuperCharger info needed thread of a few days ago, a pic of one of RCs supercharged Hondas with the top tubes removed.
Like you say, shouldn't bother it in a straight line. ;)

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« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2007, 05:25:11 AM »
Jay, thanks for the compliments. I have 4 more being made and I'm done when they are gone. These 15 I've made/sold have served their purpose - helped out my machinist friend and helped the community here. I've lost about $100 total in development, free ones, discounts, and 3 day priority shipping - but I enjoyed the journey getting they designed and installed. There may still be a demand out there if people knew how easy it was to service their top-ends with them. You or someone else should make and offer these.

Sam, I've seen my bike without the lower tubes and it's scary that anyone would put a bunch of horsepower in a frame with the thin backbone tubing alone. I had to come up with some way to service the engine and not remove the frame, but couldn't stand the thought of the one tube holding my life in balance.

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Re: GORDON'S FRAME KIT SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED!!!!! PICS
« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2007, 05:50:25 AM »
I'm potentially interested in these for my winter project.

I plan on pulling my 750F's engine for painting and would love to do this mod at that time to make life easier down the road. 

This is fantastic work, you're a great asset to this community.

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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2007, 07:06:28 AM »
Gordon

Just wanted to ask one more time if you, or someone else, was going to build more of these kits.  I'm not asking anyone to lose money on the deal.  I'd be happy to pay a fair price for what looks like a nicely made kit.

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« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2007, 07:27:33 AM »
Gordon;

Our kits consisted of two replacement tubes that were held in place by four sleeves that connected them to the remaining frame parts with eight bolts. Not nearly as fance as yours, but they worked. Ours did not attempt to reconnect the straps to the top tube.

If I remember back that far, the kits sold for $29.95.  We did so many, that I can't believe there are not still a bunch of 750s out there with these kits in them.

Old drag racing rule books from the 70s and 80s all stated that Honda 750s could cut those tubes out and just leave them out. Didn't seem to hurt straight line handling.

Your kit is way nicer that what we did. And I would recommend it to anyone wanting to cut those tubes out today.


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I have seen quite a few of these old kits and there are some of them still running on bikes. In fact I am using gordon's kit to replace one of these old kits on a 71 frame I have because some of the pieces are missing (like the actual side rails).
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Re: GORDON'S FRAME KIT SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED!!!!! PICS
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2007, 06:08:11 PM »
hello everyone, 
am interested in contacting a machinist i know re: fabbing these components, but need to be clear on the removal/install of the finished sub-frame.  the middle/upper (flat stock) and rear (round stock) part details can be worked out i think.  from the pics, the front two round components seem to be adjustable for lenght via a bolted connection.  if anyone has more details on this connection, either by function or design, i really appreciate it. 

am looking forward to a cam chain replacement (preventative), engine paint job (poser!) and gaskets (oil spray on left leg).  this would be a perfect winter project while i'm in there.  many thanks.
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« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2007, 07:53:56 PM »
Bob, those front pieces have nothing to do with adjustability. They are like that so you can keep the kit hidden under the tank, use the stock key switch location, and these make the front pieces completely removable so you'll have clearance for the head cover and cylinderhead. If you simply "weld-in" the joints, you'll be dissapointed as the head will never clear the joints and your efforts lost.

Note the pic below, you'll see the key bracket fits in it's stock location, the joints are completely invisible, and if you don't have the ability to lossen the large "jam" nut and remove the front joint - then the access to top-end components is not there. I gave this a lot of thought and carefully designed the kit to work without being seen.

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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2007, 08:32:30 PM »
Bob, those front pieces have nothing to do with adjustability. They are like that so you can keep the kit hidden under the tank, use the stock key switch location, and these make the front pieces completely removable so you'll have clearance for the head cover and cylinderhead. If you simply "weld-in" the joints, you'll be dissapointed as the head will never clear the joints and your efforts lost.

Note the pic below, you'll see the key bracket fits in it's stock location, the joints are completely invisible, and if you don't have the ability to lossen the large "jam" nut and remove the front joint - then the access to top-end components is not there. I gave this a lot of thought and carefully designed the kit to work without being seen.

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« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2007, 05:52:45 AM »
got it, many thanks.
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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2007, 07:10:54 AM »
I sent you a PM a few days ago. I guess I missed the boat on these kits. If you're willing to make another production run I'd love to buy 3 kits. I hate wrestling 750 engines out of the frame.

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« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2007, 07:01:38 PM »
Guys, I've asked Charles to machine the components for 10 more sets. I'll order the 180,000 psi threaded bar,and grade-8 attachment button head bolts, and the jam nuts to complete 10 sets. First come, first shipped.

Brett, I've been on the road for 15 days now on business travel. I'm finally on vacation in Key West for some diving....I'm not hard to reach normally. just when away from home.

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« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2008, 06:47:34 AM »
Revived topic...because I just finally installed my frame repair kit...cut things out with a pipe cutter for nice smooth cuts, ground things down to prep for welding, mounted everything up, tacked everything in place, then went to town welding things together! Works great, i'll upload some pics of mine tonight! Great quality kit! Glad I got one of the last few available.

Thanks Gordon! Excellent instructions, followed everything to the T and it worked out great.
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« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2008, 06:56:18 AM »
Is it really that hard to pull the engine once every 30 years to do a top overhaul?  I don't get the frame cutting thing at all.  If it is an original frame with an original looking bike, why cut it up?  If it is a chop or bobber, why cut there? I don't understand.