Author Topic: Hyosung motorcycles (Read 4465 times)

snoop · « **on:** April 06, 2007, 11:58:04 AM »

What does everybody think of hyosung motorcycles? They have all the repair manuals on their site for free. Plus a parts catalog. I have never heard of a motorcycle company doing this. I think it is bad ass. http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/

KB02 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2007, 01:39:10 PM »

Sp far they seem to be a pretty decent company with a good product. Time will tell, but they look to be doing good so far.

xtalon · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2007, 03:46:07 PM »

This month's Motorcyclist magazine has a pretty good article about a couple of their models. From what I gathered from the article, it sounds like they should come in at even lower price points because even though they are lower now, they are still close to similar Japanenese models, but still don't have the performance or the quality. Again, the magazine didn't say this. This was just my opinion based on what I read in the article.

--xTalon

grumburg · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2007, 04:15:24 PM »

I'll check back in 5 years. Could be another Hyundai story..or Daewoo.

Cowboy · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2007, 04:39:31 PM »

Funny, I was checking out the Hyosung website today too, because some of the adventure riders on advrider.com were discussing them. I came to the same conclusion as xtalon: I'm not willing to pay the same price for an unknown Chinese bike as I would pay for a tried and tested Japanese bike. If they want to attract my money, they need to be much cheaper than their japanese competition, at least until they have established their reputation for producing similar quality machines.

I have nothing against Chinese products, in fact, that black sidecar rig you see in my avatar is a Chinese military bike. (a Chang Jiang 750) Part of the reason that I'm willing to buy a CJ750, but not a Hyosung, is that the CJ750 was so inexpensive that no similar bike from another maker comes anywhere close to competing in price. (I'm comparing apples and oranges, of course, since there was no dealer markup or shipping/importing/testing expense associated with the CJ750. We bought it in China and imported it ourselves, which was all reasonably inexpensive.)

I'm sure we will be presented with lots more chinese products on our market in the coming years. It will be interesting to see how they handle their market introduction strategies.

CBGBs · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2007, 06:42:07 PM »

I think they look Sweet! I've checked them out. I've even ridden the 250GT. It was a used, kind of demo model. It had a couple thousand miles on it and the rear shock was completely blown. Bike was bouncing hoopty down the road. The owner didn't even realize it. I topped it out at about 85mph. I was dissappointed with the performace. It is supposed to be more powerfull than the 250 ninja, but comparing it to my 76 CB200t they were very close. My 200t was 25 years old and would top out at 85.

cben750f0 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2007, 07:46:08 PM »

bloody good bikes, mate of mine has the gt650, naked, and it makes 4 horse more than the comparable SV650 suzuki!!.. good build quality, and a few other nice little touches, adjustable rear sets, upsidedown forks etc etc... and cheaper than the SV also.... and they are carbi'd i like carbs.... NEway just my 2c worth..

peace

oconnor · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2007, 10:46:51 PM »

They must make a huge profit per bike. Anyone know what an assembly line worker makes in China? I can't imagine it's much.

CBGBs · « **Reply #8 on:** April 07, 2007, 04:30:17 AM »

These engines are actually Suzuki motors. They say that they have more power than other bikes but I really wonder if that isn't true. I would think that Suzuki would put their best motor in their own bikes.

xtalon · « **Reply #9 on:** April 07, 2007, 07:01:03 AM »

Quote from: CBGBs on April 07, 2007, 04:30:17 AM

These engines are actually Suzuki motors. They say that they have more power than other bikes but I really wonder if that isn't true. I would think that Suzuki would put their best motor in their own bikes.

I'm pretty sure these are not Suzuki engines. They may be Suzuki designs or so close you couldn't tell the difference. Hyosung used to manufacter for Suzuki, before they started producing their own bikes, so there is a reason they are similar. They already had the design info and tooling, although I'm sure they had to change things to not get sued.

--xTalon

isred · « **Reply #10 on:** April 07, 2007, 09:57:47 AM »

Just wondering why any one would want to buy a disposable bike? A good used jap bike would be a better buy, I would think. The lack of parts and Quality control would also give me reason for pause. sorry just not a fan of chinese goods. Just to cheep for me.Brent

Killer Canary · « **Reply #11 on:** April 07, 2007, 10:44:16 AM »

I thought Hyo is Korean.

cben750f0 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 07, 2007, 06:42:39 PM »

no they are not suzuki motors, that was a big rumour, but these are hyosungs motors, i have riden both, and from standard the hyosung 'feels' more grunty, though i spose a dyno chart would be the only real way of knowing for sure....

peace

750goes · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2007, 06:53:44 PM »

They use small hyosung bikes for pre-learner classes in NSW Australia - having been invited for a test ride on one I thought why not - after a few minutes I felt like a pumpkin on a pimple.......the bike had about 5000k's on it, front suspension was shot - you could bottom out by pushing sown on the bars (not hard either)..seating was ordinary (I'm 6 ' or 180cm), seems built for bodies about 150cm in height with short inseam legs...rear suspension adjusted up as the hardest position, and it wallowed along (I weigh 90kg).

BUT - having seen the treatment they get from learner riders (they never get out of second gear), and they are stop/start/stop..they seem to be like my old 250 with over 90000k's on it.........

just a comparison...........

oconnor · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2007, 07:48:48 PM »

China makes parts for every motorcycle manufacturer, even American ones. I wouldn't be surprised if they make the Suzuki SV650 motors.

cben750f0 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2007, 10:10:19 PM »

havent had much to do with the smaller 250's, but the 650's seem pretty good, and the 250's sell pretty well here in NZ..

peace

CB750R · « **Reply #16 on:** April 07, 2007, 11:45:39 PM »

I don't ever see the point in buying a new piece of crap, why would anyone want a brand new 250 cruiser??? when they are a Dime a dozen in the buy and sell, and maybe the GT650 looks like an SV, but those are steel frame tubes not alluminum, and a lot of the peripheral goodies like dual piston calipers not the junk where there's pistons on one side and a backing plate on the far side, These bikes are at MSRP only a few hundred off the comparable japenese marks, that for the most part have been around for ages so reliablility has been breed into them, (rebel 250's from honda should come with collector plates from the showroom) Just my thoughts, I'd rather own a second hand quality, than first hand nothin special.

cben750f0 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:42:14 AM »

*shrug*

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 08, 2007, 06:36:48 AM »

Hyosung are becoming very popular in Spain, specially because of their low price. They are not chinese but korean; chinese learner bikes are MUCH worse, with a low quality in the detail that pops up from 10 feet apart. The suzuki engine tale in the Hyosung is an urban legend that Hyosung dealers are not willing to deny for their own interest; in fact, they are Suzuki rip-offs. Even one of the roadester models have a frame "inspired" in the SV650, that is also "inspired" in the ducati monster.

There is a bike called GV650

that is becoming very popular, specially for its 6K euro price tag. "Inspired" in the V-Rod, I had a chat with a magazine tester -for wich I have worked a couple times as a freelance-. He told me the test unit wouldn't run smoothly and they told the importer to give them another unit, or they could not write anything good about it. The importer did it quickly, fair enough. After the test, the taillight became loose. That's when the tester discovered it was installed with double-side sticky tape, from the factory. The ground clearance in right turners is low, easily hitting the exhaust.

That's just early teething problems. Koreans bikes and cars will be the next generation after the japanese supremacy. Chinese have still to realize it's not enough to make cheap products; they have to be good too.

crazypj · « **Reply #19 on:** April 08, 2007, 01:22:45 PM »

I'm not certain but I heared somewhere that they are being sued by Suzuki for importing an SV650 clone into US market.
The bike was supposed to be a 600 so not to compete with SV
PJ

Jv550 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2007, 10:05:55 PM »

They need to work on their ad copy too:
"It presents freedom to you who desires to drive out of downtown invincible wild instinct hided."

cben750f0 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 08, 2007, 10:54:33 PM »

LOL dam translation, and its ability to 'loose' something!!!!! BAAHAhahahahahahahaha

peace

xtalon · « **Reply #22 on:** April 09, 2007, 06:44:39 AM »

From Motorcyclist April 2007:

'I read the warning label atop the gas tank: "Do not be touched on muffler because it is hot".'

--xTalon

nickjtc · « **Reply #23 on:** April 09, 2007, 10:41:36 AM »

Think back 45 years, when an upstart company called Honda was trying to make inroads into the western markets. That's where the 'other' oriental brands are now. Give it ten years then review the situation! The dealership I worked in briefly has just become a Hyosung distributor; early interest is very high.

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Author Topic: Hyosung motorcycles (Read 4465 times)

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