Author Topic: CR's - Someone Should Have Warned Me!!  (Read 1453 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline RRRToolSolutions

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,167
  • I love old Japanese bikes!
CR's - Someone Should Have Warned Me!!
« on: April 06, 2007, 10:56:43 PM »
I installed a new set of CR29's tonight and man - those things are a bear. 1st, the things are huge and almost no room left to manuver them into the intakes. Then the intakes themselves are a very tight fit, even after an application of silicone on new manifolds. I almost gave up and thought of EBay.... :)

Now with the proper-fit K&N's installed, they look like a 250 lb woman in a mini-skirt. I've got to find just a little room for a fuel line to run in there so they can drink. Seriously, these were the toughest single part of my assembly - ever. A real pain..

Gordon
Kaws, Hondas, Yamahas, and Suzukis - especially Kaws

Offline seaweb11

  • 1st Mate &
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,258
  • Ride & Smile
    • Playground Directory
Re: CR's - Someone Should Have Warned Me!!
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2007, 11:03:58 PM »
Decided not to undertake that "CR Adventure"   on my latest build, but I will be reading........ ;D

Offline Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er

  • This MuthaF'er is getting to be a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,912
  • Bought her new 4/75
Re: CR's - Someone Should Have Warned Me!!
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2007, 10:38:07 PM »
Gordon,

You still have my address?!  ;D ;D ;D

Jerry
As of today 3/13/2012 my original owner 75 CB750F has made it through 3 wives, er EX-wives. Free at last.  ;-)

Offline RRRToolSolutions

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,167
  • I love old Japanese bikes!
Re: CR's - Someone Should Have Warned Me!!
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 05:07:07 AM »
Jerry, it gets worse. I don't complain much, but this CR install was a buger and in fact was about the single most difficult part of this entire rebuild. I thought they would be a simple "bolt-on", but that's not exactly the way they come. I know they are built for off-road and some of the wiring and pieces in the way would be removed - still there are several pains to go through. I'll post these in case oters are planning an intall of their own.

1)The carbs don't come with instructions for installing them on a bike. Ok, you'd think anyone able to turn a wrench to the right//tight would be able to figure it out. The carb's aluminum spigots won't fit into new, OEM rubbers easily - certainly not 4 at a time and new ones are softer and more pliable than old, used ones. I'm a healthy guy, my bike is in a Condor stand so I can push real hard and I couldn't get them to even start. I had to put each intake rubber onto the spigots 1 at a time. Now getting 4 rubber intakes to go over the angled head spiots was a whole lot easier since they were sized for the task even if the angles didn't match the directions of desired travel.

2) Ok, carbs mounted and OEM clamps installed, monster fuel line (single) hooked up and clamped, but you're still not going to hook it up to the tank - it's going to require a special line adapter connecting the 5/16" hose to the two smaller 3/16" petcock fittings. Ok, parts house and where to put such an ugly piece of joinery? - under the tank where it won't show - hopefully.

3) Throttle cables. Here's where I really b itch. Hooking up the OEM push/pull cables of my K4 with them installed is much like surgery. The cable end for the pull side is wrapped around the cam slot and actually hooked in the lower-front between the #2 and #3 carbs. Here there is absolutely "no room". I remove the throttle springs, pull slack, use a ziptie to hold the throtle cam open - and after 10 minutes of trying every long-nose pliers and long-reach screwdriver I own finally get the end to slide into the cam. Well - the threaded part of the cable doesn't turn as the K4's pull cable is "fixed" to the cable's outside covering. So the CR's throttle cable bracket has to come off and I have to drill the threads out of that bracket so the pull cable's 2-nut system will slide into it. Did I mention there is absolutely no space? Anyway, the bracket is now ready for a K4's cables - right - no. The push side now doesn't have enough slack to allow it's cable end to fit into the desired cam slot - even with all of the adjustment screwed-in and the idle speed turned back. I have to remove the throttle bracket a 2nd time so the push side has enough slack to make the bend so it fits into the cam.

Anyway, if I'd known 2 things up-front my install would have been an easier task -

First - how the heck are you supposed to install the carbs into the rubbers with them mounted on an engine?
Second - trial fit the cables before you ever get the before mentioned difficult carbs mounted. Getting those ends, the bracket removed/drilled, ect would have been much easier with them on a bench.

Sudco - you could have done a little more on the information since yours doesn't speak one word on the install, cables, clearances - nothing but how to change a jet (which of course you should buy from Sudco it says).

OK, I'm not mad anymore.... ;D




« Last Edit: April 08, 2007, 05:11:58 AM by Ilbikes »
Kaws, Hondas, Yamahas, and Suzukis - especially Kaws

Offline cben750f0

  • nothin draws attention like a classic bike!!
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,612
  • '75 CB750F0 Gladstone NQLD OZ
Re: CR's - Someone Should Have Warned Me!!
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2007, 05:13:00 AM »
mate, and to think i was gonna do this mod sometime this millennium, but i might leave it now!!!LOL, you will be happy with them once you ride it... thanx for the heads up...


peace
you are never to old, to act like a kid... be safe
funny thing,chasing someone down hill on a bike 30 years older than theirs..
he said \\\\\\\'it was like watching a 250kg unguided weapon getting stuck up you bum\\\\\\\ http://www.bikepics.com/members/trixtrem/

Offline Geeto67

  • A grumpy
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,823
Re: CR's - Someone Should Have Warned Me!!
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2007, 07:53:38 AM »
just ride it, it will be worth it. The only CR bike I have ever ridden was a complete animal and it didn't even have a big bore kit in it.
Maintenance Matters Most