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Offline That70sGuy

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They are listed as DS1-2 units, but are about 75% cheaper than Dynatek sells them for and don't have the blue Dynatek label, so I assume they are cheap knock-offs. FWIW there are a lot of positive reviews in the seller feedback, but not sure how much to trust those. Let me know if you have tried them and how it worked out. Thanks

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They work but no idea yet on reliability and dont fit some of the 400 foursas they had 2 different makes of advancer
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   My experience is don't buy 'em. Ya get what ya pay for....
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I’ve used a couple on bikes (cb750K7/8) I sold last year (the new owners wanted rid of points). Checked over both bikes, late Fall, and everything was as I left it and working fine….
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They are listed as DS1-2 units, but are about 75% cheaper than Dynatek sells them for and don't have the blue Dynatek label, so I assume they are cheap knock-offs. FWIW there are a lot of positive reviews in the seller feedback, but not sure how much to trust those. Let me know if you have tried them and how it worked out. Thanks

On what bike?
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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 I might decide based on how far from home I ride and if I have room to carry a spare. On my gl1000 I put a dyna on it and also took the points plate along when I travelled a thousand miles away from home.
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You need to be sure your charging system is working properly and get the bike running properly on points before you decide to put on electronic ignition so you know the charging will keep up with the extra draw on the system.
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Don't know but I saw left and right hand controls for around $25. Looked good in pictures.
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Don't know if they are the same units you are referring to, but I have a couple of the cheap knockoffs, 1 in  550 and 1 in a 750.

Both bikes run good, but don't have a lot of miles or time to comment on longevity, about 1900 miles on the 750 and about 600 on the 550.

I think mine have the letters IQ on the pickup, if I recall.

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I bought a cheap one back in 2017, everyone said it was Asian junk. Mine is still running strong and has outlasted a 'made in the USA unit' I had, by years so far. Most of the respective stuff bought in the USA is actually produced in China, boxed up and rebranded. The reason for the discounted direct marketing figure is the removal of leaching steps or vendors. Some Aussie, Yanks and Euro blokes are using the DS1-2 inexpensive unit and seem happy enough. It is not so much that 'you get what you pay for' as it is how many levels are skimming and  adding up through mark ups. North American labour is too expensive to build a comparable product. The link below is kinda like the "Itchy and Scratchy Show" and at the very least I hope you find it entertaining, towards the end page 10 or so there are some guys that have the ignition you are considering.    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,158702.200.html
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I'd recommend the Hondaman unit, has anyone had one fail ever?  At least there are options should it ever.  Call me happy.

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You need to be sure your charging system is working properly and get the bike running properly on points before you decide to put on electronic ignition so you know the charging will keep up with the extra draw on the system.
In Europe all kinds of EI's have been fitted on CB500/550s. There are NO reports of compromising the charging system's output. However I see no advantage of systems which have an increased dwell (duty cycle). On the contrary: with the IGN left on, it may result in a fried coil. As proved by thousands of us, the CB500/550s charging system is adequate for running both an EI as well as a 60/55W H4. If the charging system would have had this shortcoming, Honda would certainly have modified it. I've looked it up, the system remained the same throughout all the years 71-78, even for the models that standard came with the 60/55 Watts H4 and even for the CB500P shown below.
Tip1: fit a switch to bypass that headlamp-always-on wiring US models had.
Tip2: If your rides are mostly in cities, consider fitting a break relay thus, that the headlamp extincts and the little pilot bulb lights, when neutral light is on, like when waiting at a traffic light.
Tip3: If your model still has the next to useless sealed beam, consider replacing it by a European style H4, like Cibié, Marchal, Hella or Bosch. For safety I recommend to go yellow.
I should add that where I live, folks usually ride bicycles for most distances and certainly those for up to 5 miles. I never start my motorcycle for distances under 15 miles. As a bonus my OEM exhausts live at least 75.000 km. 
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You need to be sure your charging system is working properly and get the bike running properly on points before you decide to put on electronic ignition so you know the charging will keep up with the extra draw on the system.
In Europe all kinds of EI's have been fitted on CB500/550s. There are NO reports of compromising the charging system's output. However I see no advantage of sytems which have an increased dwell (duty cycle). On the contrary: with the IGN left on, it may result in a fried coil. As proved by thousands of us, the CB500/550s charging system is adequate for running both an EI as well as a 60/55W H4. If the charging system would have had this shortcoming, Honda would certainly have modified it. I've looked it up, the system remained the same throughout all the years 71-78, even for the models that standard came with the 60/55 Watts H4 and even for the CB500P shown below.
Tip1: fit a switch to bypass that headlamp-always-on wiring US models had.
Tip2: If your rides are mostly in cities, consider fitting a break relay thus, that the headlamp extincts and the little pilot bulb lights, when neutral light is on, like when waiting at a traffic light.
Tip3: If your model still has the next to useless sealed beam, consider replacing it by a European style H4, like Cibié, Marshal, Hella or Bosch. For safety I recommend to go yellow.
I should add that where I live, folks usually ride bicycles for most distances and certainly those for up to 5 miles. I never start my motorcycle for distances under 15 miles. As a bonus my OEM exhausts live at least 75.000 km. 

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Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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You need to be sure your charging system is working properly and get the bike running properly on points before you decide to put on electronic ignition so you know the charging will keep up with the extra draw on the system.
In Europe all kinds of EI's have been fitted on CB500/550s. There are NO reports of compromising the charging system's output. However I see no advantage of sytems which have an increased dwell (duty cycle). On the contrary: with the IGN left on, it may result in a fried coil. As proved by thousands of us, the CB500/550s charging system is adequate for running both an EI as well as a 60/55W H4. If the charging system would have had this shortcoming, Honda would certainly have modified it. I've looked it up, the system remained the same throughout all the years 71-78, even for the models that standard came with the 60/55 Watts H4 and even for the CB500P shown below.
Tip1: fit a switch to bypass that headlamp-always-on wiring US models had.
Tip2: If your rides are mostly in cities, consider fitting a break relay thus, that the headlamp extincts and the little pilot bulb lights, when neutral light is on, like when waiting at a traffic light.
Tip3: If your model still has the next to useless sealed beam, consider replacing it by a European style H4, like Cibié, Marshal, Hella or Bosch. For safety I recommend to go yellow.
I should add that where I live, folks usually ride bicycles for most distances and certainly those for up to 5 miles. I never start my motorcycle for distances under 15 miles. As a bonus my OEM exhausts live at least 75.000 km. 

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Newday, with all respect and FYI, I have not been more on any 'soapbox' than others here, that have been echoing this myth. But as always, I welcome substantiated criticism. Do you think you can manage without calling anyone a 'buffoon'. Oh and btw, I still welcome your substantiation for any benificial effect by adding oil to the gasoline. I have asked around: apart from some - some, not all - who race vintage bikes, that may add a spoonful of ricinus oil to a tankfill of gasoline, the practice of adding oil is absent here. For a reason.
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I think Hondaman's "points saver" system is a better solution. Very compatible and of course, made right and reliable.
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i too have honda mans unit .   easy to install and bullet proof .  works great and made in lakewood co usa !!

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I reckon if the Dyna-S I installed in April 1990 142,000 miles ago ever craps out I will try Hondaman’s offering.
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I bought one and it sits in a box. I should rig up a simple way to spin and and hook it up to set of coils...let run for a few days.

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towards the end page 10 or so there are some guys that have the ignition you are considering.    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,158702.200.html
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I reckon if the Dyna-S I installed in April 1990 142,000 miles ago ever craps out I will try Hondaman’s offering.
Ah, you have one of their old ones, made after 1990, I presume? I have removed 4 of their later ones from the 1999-onward era, which all were shorted on one side or the other.
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I reckon if the Dyna-S I installed in April 1990 142,000 miles ago ever craps out I will try Hondaman’s offering.
Ah, you have one of their old ones, made after 1990, I presume? I have removed 4 of their later ones from the 1999-onward era, which all were shorted on one side or the other.
So is the Dyna III previous to 1990?
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Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A