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Finally off to the printer!
« on: March 04, 2025, 09:40:46 PM »
...whew...
I finally wrapped up the 500/550 book (again) and sent it to the printer today for the pilot copy. The first attempt was a disaster after the PDF converting service dropped the photo resolution down so far that the pictures looked like something from an old 1950s newspaper copy, but using colored dots instead of shades of grey dots :(  Most of those interior pictures were useless, and all of the indicating arrows that followed the text just disappeared (but the covers were nice and clear...?). That was 3 weeks ago. I should get the first proof copy late next week, along with the final pricing.

A thousand thanks to all of you who sent me pix for the 500 and 550! I'll post the reference along with the other book in the Site Supporter's section: a portion of the sales from this one will also go toward these forums, like has My CB750 book. They are, after all, in support of SOHC4.com/net!
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Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2025, 01:49:16 AM »
Congratulations Mark. Hoping that the pictures turn out well this time without any problems 🙏
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 1 K2, 4 K6, 1 K8, 1 F1, 1 F3
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2025, 08:41:21 AM »
are you laying out the book yourself? are you using indesign? you should be able to control what's exported and the loss rate (should be none for a print book). I know it's not your first book, just wondering.
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2025, 09:33:52 AM »
are you laying out the book yourself? are you using indesign? you should be able to control what's exported and the loss rate (should be none for a print book). I know it's not your first book, just wondering.

Yep, myself: the problems the first time came up from conversion errors between the 3 stages. I wrote it in Word (primarily for its picture-handling abilities and fully-embedded fonts) and then stripped all the edits (because the file got so big that Word couldn't save it) to keep the cohesion. Using other editors doesn't make it simple to stay on topic around an object (like a picture) because of the way those software's authors store things. For example, some of them separate the object (drawing, photo, block item) from the text, losing control of how a topic might be blocked onto a page: it just lets the words run off to wherever they will fit. I find that unacceptable when writing manuals (which I did for automation engineering for decades) that are intended to teach someone who knows naught about the topic at hand how to understand that topic. If Word has always done just one thing well, it is that it lets you control where the object is relative to the text for it. (Although I do wish Microsoft would leave well enough alone and stop having programmers who don't write actual sentences and paragraphs be the ones who control the layout of the toolbars...).

Then Adobe's Photoshop lets picture editing hit a high note. The only real troubles show up when the final script is being converted to (this week's version of) PDF files, which are essentially a collection of pages of pixels. The resolution arguments that ensue between the different formats (text, font, photos, drawings, etc.) is where the troubles erupt because not all programs see the page you're using in the same way, and it causes distortions in both page layouts and photo & drawing linearities. It gets really messy, probably like running politics in a governing body? Everything becomes an argument whether it needs to be, or not.
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

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Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
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Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2025, 10:44:52 AM »
When you export to pdf the documents should retain their editability and all text should be "smart" as well as images retain ability to resize and move around. "photoshop pdf" is another thing altogether, I'm not really a fan of photoshop.

I don't know what people usually use for books, I've used indesign a lot but I think it's mainly used for magazines, although I have personally made documents in it that are 80-100 pages, mostly images. Does word imbed the images instead of linking them? That's probably why the file becomes too large.
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2025, 04:47:23 PM »
When you export to pdf the documents should retain their editability and all text should be "smart" as well as images retain ability to resize and move around. "photoshop pdf" is another thing altogether, I'm not really a fan of photoshop.

I don't know what people usually use for books, I've used indesign a lot but I think it's mainly used for magazines, although I have personally made documents in it that are 80-100 pages, mostly images. Does word imbed the images instead of linking them? That's probably why the file becomes too large.

In Word (which is somewhat unique when compared to other editors - it makes me miss Wordstar...whose keystroke commands Microsoft stole in 1990 and embedded into Word...) the photo images are located by supplying the text coordinates, character archetype and the line format of the 0,0 dot location of the image. In opposition, Wordstar would map the location of the image's 0,0 point and then store the picture in a separate part of the file (at the end, with a sequence number, before the file-end buffer). Wordstar at first didn't save the original picture (or object) size if you trimmed it, at the end it did, though. In Word it saves the image as its full size until you "compress" it and shear it, which then sets the size to whatever you trimmed it to be and ejects the rest of the pixels of the image to shrink the file. This has to be done before 'flattening' it, which then applies any paste-on editing done to the pictures by appending the (x,y) and (object definition) of, in the case of this book, the arrows in the pictures that point out things. The printer hates those...mostly because different flavors of .PDF handle them differently, and Word has used some 8 different methods since the first Windows-on-DOS days, so the final consolidation becomes problematic. That's what I learned since 2 weeks ago...

The original definition of "PDF" in the 1970s world of computing was "Pixel Data Format", defining how dot-matrix printers hit paper with pins (which came directly from the old color TV onscreen painting methods), until ADOBE came along with their "Portable Document Format" term. I remember when there was a battle headed to court over the "PDF" usage and definitions, but this was in the economic death spirals of the 1980s when Microsoft - made when Gates stole cP/M from the public domain, added a serial port handler and floppy-disc manager to it and renamed it "Disk Operating System" and sold it to IBM (which is 100% illegal to do, BTW) - stepped in with tons of $$ and forced it into their control. That's how one company, Microsoft, nearly destroyed the usefulness of the PC until (strangely enough) Europe came to its rescue with Linux. Which I use, and am far happier with. I like running virtual Windows in Linux, which stops all the hardware-stealing corruptive crap that Windows does: it runs faster, with less stalling and crashing, inside Linux than it does on any of my other 21 computers.
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2025, 05:01:23 PM »
Makes me wish I had 500 or 550. Just stuck with three beautiful 750's. Congrats on the book. Wishing you abundant sales

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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2025, 06:57:26 PM »
Makes me wish I had 500 or 550. Just stuck with three beautiful 750's. Congrats on the book. Wishing you abundant sales
Thanks, Beemer!
I don't think there are as many 500/550 riders out there or in the forums, but the revenues will help keep this cool place running!
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2025, 07:08:29 PM »
Congrats on the next book! Just wanted to take the opportunity to thank you personally for the writing the CB750 version! It's been an invaluable resource in my engine rebuilds and I constantly reference it. I really don't know if I would've attempted it without such clear instructions. Thanks Mark!

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2025, 07:52:56 PM »
Makes me wish I had 500 or 550. Just stuck with three beautiful 750's. Congrats on the book. Wishing you abundant sales
Thanks, Beemer!
I don't think there are as many 500/550 riders out there or in the forums, but the revenues will help keep this cool place running!
There might not be but I for one of those people that don't have a 500/550 will buy the book to have on hand and peruse through just incase I get enough room to get one to put together or refresh at some point in time. I have often thought it would be fun to have one because of the power to weight ratio.
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 1 K2, 4 K6, 1 K8, 1 F1, 1 F3
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2025, 08:40:45 PM »
Makes me wish I had 500 or 550. Just stuck with three beautiful 750's. Congrats on the book. Wishing you abundant sales
Thanks, Beemer!
I don't think there are as many 500/550 riders out there or in the forums, but the revenues will help keep this cool place running!
There might not be but I for one of those people that don't have a 500/550 will buy the book to have on hand and peruse through just incase I get enough room to get one to put together or refresh at some point in time. I have often thought it would be fun to have one because of the power to weight ratio.

They are fun to ride, and smooth as silk when tuned up. :) There's also a lot of "hidden" power in the 500/550, for reasons cited in the book, and which can be...adjusted in the rider's favor...so long as local (emissions) laws don't forbid it. I think everyone who's tried to hotrod the timing per that collection someone made called "The thoughts of Hondaman" (who did, that, BTW?) that doesn't contain the whole story of what is needed has sent me emails asking why the engine hangs in high idle, or got harder to start, or had a bigger 'flat spot', etc., so it's long been on my mind to try to put out the whole story of how that happens with this design (and what to do about fixing it). The 500/550 engines all lack sufficient spark angle, all due to emissions laws of the era (just like the cars of then).

The engines of the 400F and 350F are much the same design as the 550 but for some minor differences on the primary shafts and in the gearboxes, so I think it will help with those bikes, too. But, unlike Chilton, I am not callous enough to those differences (especially carburetors!) to say the book will cover all 3 types like theirs pretends to do. They do look very similar when taken apart for rebuilds, while the later-version 400F has the superior carbs for high RPM power between the first-year and the later ones. Maybe I'll take some pix when I get to do my long-languishing CB350F in the shed: I think I have finally found all the parts for it except the throttle cables. They are pretty ratty on it, now. Then maybe I could make a 1/4"-thick book that says things like "per My CB500/550 Book page (xxx)" when it comes to those thing that are the same? It would be fun to try. :)
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2025, 03:51:01 AM »
Yes they are fun.
I remember in 1977 going up to the track at Loudon(Bryer Motorsports park then) to watch some of our guys from the shop racing in the AAMRR races. In one of the races there was someone on a hopped up 550 that was eating the 750s for lunch because of it's better handling. This was prior to the 650 so he had aftermarket engine parts and fine tuning that made the difference.
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Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 1 K2, 4 K6, 1 K8, 1 F1, 1 F3
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2025, 06:45:26 AM »
Good to hear the book is really close.
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2025, 06:04:54 PM »
Congrats on the next book! Just wanted to take the opportunity to thank you personally for the writing the CB750 version! It's been an invaluable resource in my engine rebuilds and I constantly reference it. I really don't know if I would've attempted it without such clear instructions. Thanks Mark!
Glad it helped!
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See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
Link to website: https://sohc4shop.com/  (Note: no longer at www.SOHC4shop.com, moved off WWW. in 2024).

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2025, 06:15:44 PM »
Yes they are fun.
I remember in 1977 going up to the track at Loudon(Bryer Motorsports park then) to watch some of our guys from the shop racing in the AAMRR races. In one of the races there was someone on a hopped up 550 that was eating the 750s for lunch because of it's better handling. This was prior to the 650 so he had aftermarket engine parts and fine tuning that made the difference.
I have seen the CB500 kick 2 "built" 750s in a full roadrace, circa 1972, on a 3/4 mile dogbone-shaped asphalt track (loose asphalt here and there). That bike had a cam and it ran with the stock airbox, no air filter, and a hose attached to the intake of the airbox that was routed back forward into the area below the carbs, behind the engine. That guy could hit [what sounded like] 12K RPM on the longer straights, and it was geared into the basement. His idea was (correctly) that the air behind the engine was at higher pressure than anywhere else on the bike, and it had time to cool off in that long, circuitous trip back to the carb mouths. He ran 022/a carbs with his own jetting and float depth recipes and a full roadrace fairing (with lousy paint). I only met him once, nice guy, but he never showed up in our circuits again. His pickup truck had Illinois plates (we were in southern IL), too. Smart guy. I asked him if he had modified his spark curve and he answered something like , "Oh, yeah...", but didn't mention details. The power is there, but it takes quite a bit more work to get it than from the 750.
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
Link to website: https://sohc4shop.com/  (Note: no longer at www.SOHC4shop.com, moved off WWW. in 2024).

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2025, 07:25:10 PM »
Yes they are fun.
I remember in 1977 going up to the track at Loudon(Bryer Motorsports park then) to watch some of our guys from the shop racing in the AAMRR races. In one of the races there was someone on a hopped up 550 that was eating the 750s for lunch because of it's better handling. This was prior to the 650 so he had aftermarket engine parts and fine tuning that made the difference.
I have seen the CB500 kick 2 "built" 750s in a full roadrace, circa 1972, on a 3/4 mile dogbone-shaped asphalt track (loose asphalt here and there). That bike had a cam and it ran with the stock airbox, no air filter, and a hose attached to the intake of the airbox that was routed back forward into the area below the carbs, behind the engine. That guy could hit [what sounded like] 12K RPM on the longer straights, and it was geared into the basement. His idea was (correctly) that the air behind the engine was at higher pressure than anywhere else on the bike, and it had time to cool off in that long, circuitous trip back to the carb mouths. He ran 022/a carbs with his own jetting and float depth recipes and a full roadrace fairing (with lousy paint). I only met him once, nice guy, but he never showed up in our circuits again. His pickup truck had Illinois plates (we were in southern IL), too. Smart guy. I asked him if he had modified his spark curve and he answered something like , "Oh, yeah...", but didn't mention details. The power is there, but it takes quite a bit more work to get it than from the 750.
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Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 1 K2, 4 K6, 1 K8, 1 F1, 1 F3
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2025, 06:28:25 PM »
Congrats, Mark.

I'm sure it'll fly off the shelf.

Best wishes!
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2025, 07:23:21 PM »
Congrats, Mark.

I'm sure it'll fly off the shelf.

Best wishes!

How are you doing after that crash?
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2025, 03:04:45 AM »
I'm excited for this!
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2025, 07:18:53 AM »
I am really excited to have this and cannot wait to purchase one.  I own a 72 CB500 and a 73 CB350F so the book will come in handy.   Looking forward to this.   

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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2025, 11:54:18 AM »
I am really excited to have this and cannot wait to purchase one.  I own a 72 CB500 and a 73 CB350F so the book will come in handy.   Looking forward to this.   
I also have a 73 CB350F! Coolest bike Honda imported to the USA, IMHO (did you know Honda made a CB250F of it in Japan - all 17 BHP of it?). While I'm tempted to make another book while I rebuild it, I don't think it would sell very much as there aren't a lot of them around. Maybe if I had a 400F (but there's 2 types of those) it might make more sense? Maybe if I made it a smaller book it wouldn't be so expensive: the grease-resistant pages and covers are pricey.
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

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Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2025, 01:05:04 PM »
Congrats to you, Mark. I don’t have a 500/550 at the moment but something tells me I’ll still want the book! Cheers, J.

P.S. my ‘78 550K was my first “big” Honda motorcycle. It came after my 1970 Triumph T100S (500 twin, single carb) and I was blown away. The only thing I changed was the bars. My wife wanted higher bars of her 400F, so I swapped them. Both fabulous machines. Always on a Honda since.
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2025, 06:29:40 PM »
Congrats to you, Mark. I don’t have a 500/550 at the moment but something tells me I’ll still want the book! Cheers, J.

P.S. my ‘78 550K was my first “big” Honda motorcycle. It came after my 1970 Triumph T100S (500 twin, single carb) and I was blown away. The only thing I changed was the bars. My wife wanted higher bars of her 400F, so I swapped them. Both fabulous machines. Always on a Honda since.

Wow, you had a '78!? I've only ever seen 1 in real life myself, so they are like rocking horse poop to me. They are (with OEM pipes) faster than the "F" model of that year due to the larger volume of the pipes, but needed the needles lifted a notch to make the midrange stronger - IF your local emissions gendarmes let you do it.
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
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Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2025, 08:04:18 PM »
Congrats to you, Mark. I don’t have a 500/550 at the moment but something tells me I’ll still want the book! Cheers, J.

P.S. my ‘78 550K was my first “big” Honda motorcycle. It came after my 1970 Triumph T100S (500 twin, single carb) and I was blown away. The only thing I changed was the bars. My wife wanted higher bars of her 400F, so I swapped them. Both fabulous machines. Always on a Honda since.

Wow, you had a '78!? I've only ever seen 1 in real life myself, so they are like rocking horse poop to me. They are (with OEM pipes) faster than the "F" model of that year due to the larger volume of the pipes, but needed the needles lifted a notch to make the midrange stronger - IF your local emissions gendarmes let you do it.

It was part of a trio. I painted my wife’s 1977 cb400F to match the 1978 550K and 750K.
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« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2025, 07:25:02 AM »
Congrats to you, Mark. I don’t have a 500/550 at the moment but something tells me I’ll still want the book! Cheers, J.

P.S. my ‘78 550K was my first “big” Honda motorcycle. It came after my 1970 Triumph T100S (500 twin, single carb) and I was blown away. The only thing I changed was the bars. My wife wanted higher bars of her 400F, so I swapped them. Both fabulous machines. Always on a Honda since.

Wow, you had a '78!?

I had a '78 550K, it had minor crash damage when I bought it.  Made repairs to it and then decided I like the F model better so I sent it down the road.  I didnt notice it being any faster than my other 550's and I didnt care for the exhaust on the late models ['77-78]
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2025, 07:35:53 AM »
I am really excited to have this and cannot wait to purchase one.  I own a 72 CB500 and a 73 CB350F so the book will come in handy.   Looking forward to this.   
I also have a 73 CB350F! Coolest bike Honda imported to the USA, IMHO (did you know Honda made a CB250F of it in Japan - all 17 BHP of it?). While I'm tempted to make another book while I rebuild it, I don't think it would sell very much as there aren't a lot of them around. Maybe if I had a 400F (but there's 2 types of those) it might make more sense? Maybe if I made it a smaller book it wouldn't be so expensive: the grease-resistant pages and covers are pricey.
Not many 350F for sure.  If nice they do sizeable money on Bring a Trailer.  I just read that they made a 250F !   

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2025, 07:43:12 PM »
Congrats to you, Mark. I don’t have a 500/550 at the moment but something tells me I’ll still want the book! Cheers, J.

P.S. my ‘78 550K was my first “big” Honda motorcycle. It came after my 1970 Triumph T100S (500 twin, single carb) and I was blown away. The only thing I changed was the bars. My wife wanted higher bars of her 400F, so I swapped them. Both fabulous machines. Always on a Honda since.

Wow, you had a '78!?

I had a '78 550K, it had minor crash damage when I bought it.  Made repairs to it and then decided I like the F model better so I sent it down the road.  I didnt notice it being any faster than my other 550's and I didnt care for the exhaust on the late models ['77-78]

Yeah, a lot of folks thought they were too "ballooney" in size (a common complaint of the 750K7/8, too), like a caricature or something. While I think Honda was walking the EPA emission tightrope with them, the last version of the 550K was the first one I found to run over 100 MPH. All of the "F" bikes would do it downhill, but on the flat they would reach up to 95-ish, and the last 1/4 throttle made no difference at all. If the float bowls were deepened a little bit (like 1mm more or so) they could touch 100 MPH when lying flat on the tank, but sitting up would drop them right back down. The 4-piper last version has a weak upper midrange (3/4-7/8 throttle range) because of the jetting: using the slide needles from the earlier versions of those PD carbs could fix that, but also ran the HC readings up past most major (USA) metropolitan allowances and could make them load up a little bit, fouling sparkplugs in slow freeway use. But, once past the 7/8 throttle range they perk up again, indicating the lean mix of the upper needle range (don't forget to back out the throttle-stop screw to get there...). Like most emissions-controlled bikes of that era, it takes a tricky (and patient) tuner to get them to run to the ton readily (heck, we were supposed to be going 55 MPH, right?). Many who just bore another 50cc into the engines to get there find that it doesn't stay there very long: as soon as the heat-cycling warps the 2 outer bores again the ton goes away, just like when they were new. 'Tis always better to step-bore these small ones, as the newfound power will stay there.
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
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Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2025, 07:44:14 PM »
Congrats to you, Mark. I don’t have a 500/550 at the moment but something tells me I’ll still want the book! Cheers, J.

P.S. my ‘78 550K was my first “big” Honda motorcycle. It came after my 1970 Triumph T100S (500 twin, single carb) and I was blown away. The only thing I changed was the bars. My wife wanted higher bars of her 400F, so I swapped them. Both fabulous machines. Always on a Honda since.

Wow, you had a '78!? I've only ever seen 1 in real life myself, so they are like rocking horse poop to me. They are (with OEM pipes) faster than the "F" model of that year due to the larger volume of the pipes, but needed the needles lifted a notch to make the midrange stronger - IF your local emissions gendarmes let you do it.

It was part of a trio. I painted my wife’s 1977 cb400F to match the 1978 550K and 750K.

Bravo, now that's CLASSY!
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See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2025, 07:48:52 PM »
I am really excited to have this and cannot wait to purchase one.  I own a 72 CB500 and a 73 CB350F so the book will come in handy.   Looking forward to this.   
I also have a 73 CB350F! Coolest bike Honda imported to the USA, IMHO (did you know Honda made a CB250F of it in Japan - all 17 BHP of it?). While I'm tempted to make another book while I rebuild it, I don't think it would sell very much as there aren't a lot of them around. Maybe if I had a 400F (but there's 2 types of those) it might make more sense? Maybe if I made it a smaller book it wouldn't be so expensive: the grease-resistant pages and covers are pricey.
Not many 350F for sure.  If nice they do sizeable money on Bring a Trailer.  I just read that they made a 250F !   

Yeah, all 17 bHP of it!
There was one that popped up in a bike swap meet that Denver used to have every January (in the same facility as the famous Stock Show earlier that month), I don't think it is anymore. The fellow who bought it had a non-running 350F and thought he'd found a spare engine until he got home and noticed it was stamped "CB250-nnn...), but was otherwise the same as his 350F. He swapped in the engine and had to do some trickery to get his larger 350F carbs to fit into the smaller 250F intakes, but got it running! When I last heard of it he planned to leave it that way, as the 250F is even rarer than the 350F, and he only putted around with it anyway. He was a big guy, so it's work was cut out for it! :D
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
Link to website: https://sohc4shop.com/  (Note: no longer at www.SOHC4shop.com, moved off WWW. in 2024).

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2025, 12:19:46 PM »
I am really excited to have this and cannot wait to purchase one.  I own a 72 CB500 and a 73 CB350F so the book will come in handy.   Looking forward to this.   
I also have a 73 CB350F! Coolest bike Honda imported to the USA, IMHO (did you know Honda made a CB250F of it in Japan - all 17 BHP of it?). While I'm tempted to make another book while I rebuild it, I don't think it would sell very much as there aren't a lot of them around. Maybe if I had a 400F (but there's 2 types of those) it might make more sense? Maybe if I made it a smaller book it wouldn't be so expensive: the grease-resistant pages and covers are pricey.
Not many 350F for sure.  If nice they do sizeable money on Bring a Trailer.  I just read that they made a 250F !   

Yeah, all 17 bHP of it!
There was one that popped up in a bike swap meet that Denver used to have every January (in the same facility as the famous Stock Show earlier that month), I don't think it is anymore. The fellow who bought it had a non-running 350F and thought he'd found a spare engine until he got home and noticed it was stamped "CB250-nnn...), but was otherwise the same as his 350F. He swapped in the engine and had to do some trickery to get his larger 350F carbs to fit into the smaller 250F intakes, but got it running! When I last heard of it he planned to leave it that way, as the 250F is even rarer than the 350F, and he only putted around with it anyway. He was a big guy, so it's work was cut out for it! :D

I tried to find a picture on like Google images and cannot find one.  Curious on what they look like.   

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2025, 12:52:55 PM »
17bhp, my first bike was a Royal Enfield Crusader Sports 250cc single which didnt even make double figures!
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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2025, 04:10:49 PM »
I am really excited to have this and cannot wait to purchase one.  I own a 72 CB500 and a 73 CB350F so the book will come in handy.   Looking forward to this.   
I also have a 73 CB350F! Coolest bike Honda imported to the USA, IMHO (did you know Honda made a CB250F of it in Japan - all 17 BHP of it?). While I'm tempted to make another book while I rebuild it, I don't think it would sell very much as there aren't a lot of them around. Maybe if I had a 400F (but there's 2 types of those) it might make more sense? Maybe if I made it a smaller book it wouldn't be so expensive: the grease-resistant pages and covers are pricey.
Not many 350F for sure.  If nice they do sizeable money on Bring a Trailer.  I just read that they made a 250F !   

Yeah, all 17 bHP of it!
There was one that popped up in a bike swap meet that Denver used to have every January (in the same facility as the famous Stock Show earlier that month), I don't think it is anymore. The fellow who bought it had a non-running 350F and thought he'd found a spare engine until he got home and noticed it was stamped "CB250-nnn...), but was otherwise the same as his 350F. He swapped in the engine and had to do some trickery to get his larger 350F carbs to fit into the smaller 250F intakes, but got it running! When I last heard of it he planned to leave it that way, as the 250F is even rarer than the 350F, and he only putted around with it anyway. He was a big guy, so it's work was cut out for it! :D

I tried to find a picture on like Google images and cannot find one.  Curious on what they look like.   
The pictures I have seen of them look almost identical to the US versions of the 350F. But, those pictures were also real, live, hold-in-your-hand Kodak size (color) pictures, so it was some time ago! It was gold, like the popular Candy Gold other bikes.
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book
Link to My CB500/CB550 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?sortBy=RELEVANCE&page=1&q=my+cb550+book&pageSize=10&adult_audience_rating=00
Link to website: https://sohc4shop.com/  (Note: no longer at www.SOHC4shop.com, moved off WWW. in 2024).

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Re: Finally off to the printer!
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2025, 06:34:54 AM »
I am really excited to have this and cannot wait to purchase one.  I own a 72 CB500 and a 73 CB350F so the book will come in handy.   Looking forward to this.   
I also have a 73 CB350F! Coolest bike Honda imported to the USA, IMHO (did you know Honda made a CB250F of it in Japan - all 17 BHP of it?). While I'm tempted to make another book while I rebuild it, I don't think it would sell very much as there aren't a lot of them around. Maybe if I had a 400F (but there's 2 types of those) it might make more sense? Maybe if I made it a smaller book it wouldn't be so expensive: the grease-resistant pages and covers are pricey.

Fun....
Not many 350F for sure.  If nice they do sizeable money on Bring a Trailer.  I just read that they made a 250F !   

Yeah, all 17 bHP of it!
There was one that popped up in a bike swap meet that Denver used to have every January (in the same facility as the famous Stock Show earlier that month), I don't think it is anymore. The fellow who bought it had a non-running 350F and thought he'd found a spare engine until he got home and noticed it was stamped "CB250-nnn...), but was otherwise the same as his 350F. He swapped in the engine and had to do some trickery to get his larger 350F carbs to fit into the smaller 250F intakes, but got it running! When I last heard of it he planned to leave it that way, as the 250F is even rarer than the 350F, and he only putted around with it anyway. He was a big guy, so it's work was cut out for it! :D

I tried to find a picture on like Google images and cannot find one.  Curious on what they look like.   
The pictures I have seen of them look almost identical to the US versions of the 350F. But, those pictures were also real, live, hold-in-your-hand Kodak size (color) pictures, so it was some time ago! It was gold, like the popular Candy Gold other bikes.