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Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« on: September 10, 2025, 05:13:46 PM »
I know this topic has been done many times before but I got some fork seals that have springs on both ends and no text on them and came without directions and I need help Identifying which side needs to go down.


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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2025, 07:46:21 PM »
I just installed some that have springs on both sides, and lips on both sides: 2 lips on one side and 1 lip on the other (3-lip seals!). With no instructions, either!

I installed them "long side down" as it appears the the backside (pressure side) of the 2-lipped side of the seal has lips pointing downward, while the other (now upper) side also has the same arrangement. I'm supposing, with these, that the upper side's lip is intended to scrape off bugs and dust above the seal. In other seals I've seen before (up to 4-lipped types) the lips all pointed one direction (and had one spring on them), intending to scrape oil from the up-moving tube and keep it in the fork's lower leg. These new ones appear to intend to scrape of dust & such as the fork plunges on jounce, then use the lower 2 scrapers to retain the oil below. There is a thin web in between these 2 lips, too, which lets the fork's (non) concentric position wander a bit while still retaining the seal(s).

In the late 1980s, Honda [briefly] introduced some 4-lip seals for the post-1972 style forks for the 750 in an effort to dry up those often-weeping fork tubes. The 4 lips added so much stiction to the tubes, though, that you had to run over a brick at 30+ MPH to make the forks compress! Those only lasted 2 summers before the 3-lip style returned, but those didn't 'float' their center seal like many modern ones do now. That 'float' allows for fork tube bending on larger bumps while still retaining a decent seal on teh tube.
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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2025, 07:48:30 PM »
Letters and numbers always go up. ;D
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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2025, 08:10:14 PM »
I am not sure what the lips you are referring to, and I don't see any letters or numbers at all.

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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2025, 08:13:15 PM »
My best guess based on absolutely nothing is that the side with the segmented metal band that is underneath the spring in the first picture is the side that goes down.

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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2025, 08:39:08 PM »
Are there small numbers at about 11:00 in the first pic?
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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2025, 08:42:02 PM »
I don't think so

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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2025, 08:48:17 PM »
There should be tiny numbers on one side; depending on your eyes you may need magnification. ;) Where did you get the seals?
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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2025, 08:50:22 PM »
I got them from 4into1 I have heard mixed things about them some say they are really good and others say things are kind of cheap but so far I haven't had any problem from them.
And I checked both sides but didn't see anything.

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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2025, 08:59:15 PM »
The second pic looks like the seals are angled down, so if that's the case I would install them with that side up? The seal lips are normally angled to keep the fluid inside. You're on your own when it comes to unmarked stuff from a dodgy supplier...
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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2025, 09:14:43 PM »
This is a picture of A genuine Honda part, this side is the top correct?

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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2025, 09:19:25 PM »
Yup.
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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2025, 09:35:37 PM »
Is there a better place you would recommend to buy parts like a fork seal.

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Re: Fork seal direction 1977 CB550K
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2025, 04:43:40 AM »
Is there a better place you would recommend to buy parts like a fork seal.
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A