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Offline Dr. Frankenstein

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350F 4into1 Exhaust Problem
« on: October 16, 2025, 09:31:49 AM »
No, not 4into1 the company,; it's the exhaust I have that came with this 350F basket case...IIRC the PO said it came off of a CB400 but that it should fit a 350F, and indeed I've read and seen 4 into 1's that looked like they do fit, but this one is giving me problems.

The exhaust is unmarked; I'm pretty sure it's not a Delkevic, but I think it's a Marving race exhaust; the hand-like collector doesn't match any Delkevic I've seen but does match a Marving exhaust. The problem is I don't have any room to mount the brake pedal, and it touches the oil pan - I'm just wondering if there's a trick to getting it on correctly...? I don't have a muffler for it, just what you see in the pics. I tried taking enough pics to give you a good idea of how it's currently mounted.

I've tried rotating the header clamps to get some more room, but it still won't fit under the oil pan - is there another way?

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Re: 350F 4into1 Exhaust Problem
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2025, 09:56:51 AM »
That's a stock 400 header.
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Re: 350F 4into1 Exhaust Problem
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2025, 09:57:54 AM »
That is an OEM Honda exhaust for the 400F

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Re: 350F 4into1 Exhaust Problem
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2025, 10:03:27 AM »
I think you can move it a bit to avoid the oil pan as it is almost identical to the 400F oil pan.
As for the brake pedal. You may have to change your rearsets. I can not remember if the stock 400F reasets are a direct bolt on affair to a CB350F. But I did install aftermarket (TTR400.COM) rearsets that were designed for the 400F onto a 350F with no problems. 

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Re: 350F 4into1 Exhaust Problem
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2025, 10:26:24 AM »
So, essentially, 'No, it won't fit;'   Correct...?

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Re: 350F 4into1 Exhaust Problem
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2025, 10:28:43 AM »
As others have said, it's a stock 400F header. These are direct bolt-on for the 350F (see my avatar) and will clear the oil pan with no problem when mounted correctly.

The peg set up for the 400F is different, however. Stock CB400F pegs will bolt right on to the 350F but the pegs sit behind where they mount -- on 350Fs they sit in front -- so it moves the pegs back about 6 inches. There is still plenty of room for the rear pegs (although the stock 4-4 pipes on a 350F mount to where the rear pegs mount and include a tab to keep the rear pegs in position. You've got to crank them down and be careful without this tab as they can still move, like if a passenger tries to stand up on the pegs). The rear brake lever is also different on a 400F, and designed to clear the collector from the header. This will also bolt right on to a 350F. I have seen 350Fs with stock pegs and stock brake lever, but the brake lever is usually at a crazy angle to avoid hitting the collector, and thus isn't natural for your foot position. The kickstarter is the final piece of the puzzle. The stock 350F or 400F kickstarter won't clear the 400F peg if you go that route (even though the 400F peg folds up for kickstarting). A CB550F kickstarter will, however. I've done this on a couple bikes, on others I just relied on the electric start. I told this to someone and he counted the teeth on a 350F kicker versus a 550F kicker and told me they weren't the same, but like I said -- it has worked for me.

On the other side, the 400F peg will mount right up and similarly set your pegs back a few inches. The 400F peg on that side has a shift linkage that bolts right on to where the 350F shifter goes, although sometimes you have to fiddle a little with it to get it to work well (and I've shaved off a little of the linkage to make shifting smoother on some bikes). On that side, the small loop on the kickstand will interfere with the shifter -- the kickstand on the 400F is mounted farther back -- so I have shaved off that loop from the kickstand.

I mounted a 400F muffler, just using a piece of angle iron shaved off and because the angle wasn't perfect I made a small angled bushing out of a skateboard truck bushing so that it tightens up snug. This was in 1997, and it's still going strong.

I also never had to rejet for this different exhaust, using the stock airbox and filter set up.

So the question is whether you want to go with the 400F exhaust -- they are definitely cool -- but fork out for the peg, lever, and linkage set ups, or switch to a different exhaust with the stock pegs. I am guessing they'd be about the same unless you found a cheap used exhaust. People sell the 400F pegs for about hundred bucks (maybe cheaper -- but you want to make sure you get the complete shift linkage), then you've got the brake lever and kicker.

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Re: 350F 4into1 Exhaust Problem
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2025, 10:34:03 AM »
I should add: rear sets are also an option, mounted to the passenger peg mounts or somewhere else.

And you'll want to get pegs from a '75 F or '76 F1 -- in 1977 the F2 had the pegs moved forward and eliminated the linkage.

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Re: 350F 4into1 Exhaust Problem
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2025, 10:43:20 AM »
Honestly I'd like to find a set of 4 into two's; the 4into1 is cool, but I rather like the twin exhaust look. I did think about putting the brake pedal up higher, but it just didn't look right.

...let me check something, I'll report back. I may have a solution....

Ah-HA! I knew I'd forgotten something! THIS is the exhaust that came with the bike - the 4 into1 pictured above I picked up later from a guy I bought a carb from...BUT! As you can see, it only needs a header, although I don't quite know which one yet since I haven't tried putting it on yet...I cleaned this up last year and almost forgot about it.  That being said, right offhand can anybody tell me which header I need, and might you have one laying around that you're not using...? :D
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Re: 350F 4into1 Exhaust Problem
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2025, 01:39:54 PM »
 I believe the last year 400F had standard forward pegs and taller handlebars. Correct?
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Re: 350F 4into1 Exhaust Problem
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2025, 02:06:10 PM »
I believe the last year 400F had standard forward pegs and taller handlebars. Correct?

And you'll want to get pegs from a '75 F or '76 F1 -- in 1977 the F2 had the pegs moved forward and eliminated the linkage.

Yep.

Not sure about which # header you are missing, but that's a pain. Still, the headers on these survive because they are double-walled and the mufflers rot quickly, so you might be able to find a whole set for not much money if you can't figure out which one you need. Just guessing, it might be #2 or #3 since I think they are a little longer than #1 and #4.

And those 4-2 mufflers are likely straight pipes, no baffle, but have a look. It'll be obnoxiously loud and won't run as well as it could if that's the case.