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Master cylinder fit on low bars
« on: April 11, 2026, 11:04:37 AM »

Hi, having just bought my cb750, I've attempted to put European handle bars on my. It's a US import to the UK and I've encountered an issue. The master cylinder assembly fouls the tachometer and there is no way this is going to fit. I've double checked my purchase, and they were listed as CB750 European bars.
I've gone through the hassle of pulling all the wires through the bars, stripping the wiring in the headlight bucket and reassembling only to find in the final stages the bloody MC wont fit!
I'm pretty sure it's one of those repops but I have the original MC and that's the same dimensions.
What am I missing?
Is the top clamp different on European models? I feel like if it was an inch higher it would fit ok.


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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2026, 11:30:33 AM »
Were the bars listed as uk spec 750 or just generic uk?
Yolks are same
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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2026, 02:04:57 PM »
Whats the difference between european handlebars and stock US?

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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2026, 03:24:24 PM »
US are much higher
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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2026, 03:34:08 PM »
Whats the difference between european handlebars and stock US?
US bars are 5" height and sets you more upright.
Euro bars are 2" height give a slight lean forward.

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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2026, 03:36:49 PM »

Hi, having just bought my cb750, I've attempted to put European handle bars on my. It's a US import to the UK and I've encountered an issue. The master cylinder assembly fouls the tachometer and there is no way this is going to fit. I've double checked my purchase, and they were listed as CB750 European bars.
I've gone through the hassle of pulling all the wires through the bars, stripping the wiring in the headlight bucket and reassembling only to find in the final stages the bloody MC wont fit!
I'm pretty sure it's one of those repops but I have the original MC and that's the same dimensions.
What am I missing?
Is the top clamp different on European models? I feel like if it was an inch higher it would fit ok.
When you mount the master cylinder you will need to reroute the hose. It doesn't foul the tachometer when adjusted properly. My blue K5 I put the Euro bars on, my red K6 has the stock US bars on it, for now.
Stu
Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 1 K2, 4 K6, 1 K8, 1 F1, 1 F3
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2026, 07:32:35 AM »
My CB750 K2 has the euro bar
It fits and works fine with wires inside.
Zoom in... ;D

My K6 has low bars too, wider with much better feel and control.
Wires outside.

The  K6 has a Highway Hawk HH-55-255.

It is rather wide so I cut it 60mm on each side.
To 800mm.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2026, 07:52:46 AM by PeWe »
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2026, 07:49:16 AM »
My CB550 has Euro bars (I like the lower height) but I'm considering going lower to 400F bars  :-\

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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2026, 08:36:49 AM »
Are the bars centered in the clamps?
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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2026, 09:52:22 AM »
I bought some Euro bars from DSS for my US 550F.
Then I bought some Euro bars on ebay that were said to be CB750 for my 500.
The ones for the F have a much larger rise than the 750 ones, but got them to fit. But the clocks are small dia on the 500.

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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2026, 04:45:35 AM »
I fitted clip-ons to my Seeley and had the brake M/C interfering with the instruments.

My solution was probably a bit dodgy but it's panned out ok: I machined about 10mm off the threaded boss, the one where the banjo bolt screws in.
The remaining thread in the boss is still deeper than the banjo bolt is long so the structural integrity is untouched.
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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2026, 06:59:40 AM »
I have Euro bars on my K4 and there is at least a half inch clearance.

In your pic, the MC isnt mounted so the angle is wrong. Install the throttle and then the MC as close as possible and as newday suggests, rotate the brake line as necessary.
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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2026, 08:09:59 AM »
I fitted clip-ons to my Seeley and had the brake M/C interfering with the instruments.

My solution was probably a bit dodgy but it's panned out ok: I machined about 10mm off the threaded boss, the one where the banjo bolt screws in.
The remaining thread in the boss is still deeper than the banjo bolt is long so the structural integrity is untouched.


Good idea to grind it shorter.
But, measure the thread depth before.
My K2 got a new MC 2 months ago when my old aftermarket MC from DSS had a clogged return hole. A lazy fix was to order a new MC. This time a slightly different MC I thought was same as the DSS version

It was shipped with a banjo bolt, a shorter one. The very long stock lenght could not be used as the DSS MC used. I tried,  around 5 mm too long.

I'll have serviced MC on the shelf for a quick replacement when needed. The return hole will be clogged up very easy.  So gic them when I have time.

The MC was only  7 years old, the last fluid change 4 years before this winter where I noticed it was bad.

Brane fluid need to be replaced every 2nd year. Make sure the return hole works. If not, locked up brake in the worst case.
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CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2026, 09:02:40 AM »

Hi, having just bought my cb750, I've attempted to put European handle bars on my. It's a US import to the UK and I've encountered an issue. The master cylinder assembly fouls the tachometer and there is no way this is going to fit. I've double checked my purchase, and they were listed as CB750 European bars.
I've gone through the hassle of pulling all the wires through the bars, stripping the wiring in the headlight bucket and reassembling only to find in the final stages the bloody MC wont fit!
I'm pretty sure it's one of those repops but I have the original MC and that's the same dimensions.
What am I missing?
Is the top clamp different on European models? I feel like if it was an inch higher it would fit ok.

So I'm guessing/ASSUMING(NG!) from your not replying in this thread or your previous thread on buying the bars/cables questions, that you haven't bought a shorter brake hose, nor cracked loose the banjo bolt holding the hose you have to reroute the hose up through close to the headlight bucket and ear beside the tachometer??

Who did you buy the bars from? Got the link?

BTW you will want to empty the master cylinder and hose of brake fluid before cracking the banjo bolt loose as brake fluid will eat paint! Cover all painted parts to protect them from brake fluid drips!
Have a spray bottle of soapy water ready to spray any drips to clean off spilt fluid.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2026, 09:10:27 AM by newday777 »
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Honda Parts manager in the mid 1970s Nashua Honda
My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 1 K2, 4 K6, 1 K8, 1 F1, 1 F3
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2026, 09:18:32 AM »
My upper brake line is 300mm  banjo cc-banjo cc. It is tight. Steel braided, slimmer than stock rubber.



It is routed to under the headlight  bucket where the brake pressure sensor sit for brake light.

The handlebar must be correctly tilted, not backwards to the rider

I have an alternative MC that has a piston dia of 12.5mm to improve the single front brake. (Stock type 14mm)
I have not tested it yet. More clearance to tacho. Mirror threads OK. Lever almost like the dog leg type of levers my bike has.
I hope for an easy MC swap only as it look like.
After writing this I feel the urge to swap the MC ;D

https://ebay.us/m/ijbdso

Below the Kawasaki aftermarket MC vs DSS aftermarket close to stock.



EDIT:
New MC. The lever has a much softer action now, almost to the grip.
I'll see on a road test if the brake is braking. Before not so much ;D
It has a window for visible fluid level.

« Last Edit: April 14, 2026, 07:12:50 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2026, 06:54:04 PM »
I recommend installing your throttle assembly, then your master cylinder, and then the hose.  I imagine that you'll find that everything fits fine.  I run low bars on everything and I've never had a clearance issue.  On my 750 I had enough space to consider running a double banjo setup on my twin disc conversion.

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Re: Master cylinder fit on low bars
« Reply #16 on: Today at 02:30:52 PM »
Are you sure they are euro bars, they still look very high and the angle of the m/c is totally wrong.
I'm in UK and have UK model 750's, I'll take a photo in the morning.
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