Author Topic: so how to you handle the "your gonna kill yourself on that thing" argument  (Read 2662 times)

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Offline EdB

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was just wondering how many people have had this argument with a friend or loved one. 'cause riding a 400 pound two wheeled vehicle with 4,000 plus cars with nothing to protect you except a helmet doesnt sound safe. sounds like a no win argument. anyone had sucess conving people otherwise?
But thence came the Great Schism, when the two like tribes diverged, and the Bobbers did take the Road to Cruiserdom and the Cafe Racers did ride to Sportbikedom and they did pollute the lands along their paths with their abominable spawn of Choppers, Stuntaz and like manner of unholy douchebaggery

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was just wondering how many people have had this argument with a friend or loved one. 'cause riding a 400 pound two wheeled vehicle with 4,000 plus cars with nothing to protect you except a helmet doesnt sound safe. sounds like a no win argument. anyone had sucess conving people otherwise?

"We are all going to die someday. What we do while we are alive is what makes the difference. This is something that I love to do and am passionate about and if I should die doing it, at least I taking advantage of the fact I am alive, rather than passing time until the inevitable."

Then I just accept the fact that many people just don't "get it" and never will.

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I've been in some accidents, one very bad one. I'm not dead. I just use that as my argument. :/
(not a very good one, I know.)
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i just got a bike and my girlfriend is freakin out. not gaining much ground trying to convince her otherwise.  there still making women, not cb550's so we'll see what happens   ;)
But thence came the Great Schism, when the two like tribes diverged, and the Bobbers did take the Road to Cruiserdom and the Cafe Racers did ride to Sportbikedom and they did pollute the lands along their paths with their abominable spawn of Choppers, Stuntaz and like manner of unholy douchebaggery

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I say, "so what is your point?" I can die walking, I can die exercising. I can die in a plane I can even die in bed. So what difference does it make.  That usually shuts them up or they come with some stupid line that is easily refutable.

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Well the CBs were perfected. Women have a long way to go yet! Tell her that one! ;D

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Clint Eastwood was once asked his thoughts on his recent marriage to a woman decades younger than himself.
Clint replies: "Hey, If she dies, she dies".
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there still making women, not cb550's so we'll see what happens   ;)
Good point, but a good woman is harder to find than a good CB  ;D

Just tell her that you could sell the CB for a turbo Busa or something and go 200+ down the tollway.
She will like the CB then...
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I just don't pay attention to them.
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Or how about:

'Just 'cause you're a coward, don't mean everybody is'
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

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My wife hated it when I brought my 550 home.

Tell her to hop on for a ride.  My wife now wants a new (for her) 2007 900cc shadow she seen when I was picking up parts at the dealer.

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"You're gonna kill yourself on that thing".........bull$*1T  I'ts usually someone else that kills you.  Unless you're suicidal of course.  But seriously, ride with your eyes constantly scannig for the morons in the cages.

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Life is a terminal disease.   At my age, no one tells me I'm going to kill myself because I've already proven them right.

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If you care about them and they care about you, they deserve some consideration, not just blowing them off with a smart-ass remark.  If you are going to do it anyway, they deserve to be reassured.  If it is a spouse or a family member who depends on you being in one piece, you can make sure your skills and equipment are up to keeping you that way.  Explain to them what you are doing maximize your safety, such as taking a riding class and wearing proper gear.  Show them that you are taking a responsible approach to your riding.  They still may not be completely happy about it, but you have considered their feelings, and they deserve that.
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Survival on a motorcycle is largely a mental exercise, and requires more thought and focus than driving a car around.
It is true that some people should not drive motorcycles as they are incapable of sustaining this mental performance level.
This does not mean that those that CAN achieve this level of mental capacity need be prevented from the activity, simply because certain other individuals lack the ability.
You can cut, maim and even kill yourself with a knife.  Does this mean all individuals be prevented use of all knives?  The possibility does not equate to the certainty, as skill and judgment temper the outcome of the combination.

You MUST drive a motorcycle like YOUR life depends on it, because most car drivers don't drive like someone else's life depends on their concern or ability.  They would rather be forgiven a transgression, than provide extra thought and effort for prevention.
The rule is: "All vehicle drivers will do the worst thing at the worst time, for your maximum personal injury."  While not strictly true, it takes care of the 1% of the driving population that IS trying to kill you, and the 50% that simply don't care.

There are certainly risks driving motorcycles.  However, it is a manageable risk.  Risk management is what life is all about and the way to extract maximum value out of life's duration.

There is nothing in this world that is perfectly safe.  Water can kill you.  But, try living without it!  
We all take risks everyday of our lives, sometimes without even being aware of it.  Awareness is key to successful management, skill and judgement can be acquired with practice and thought.  Some call it an aspect of growing as we age.

I feel it is a shame to take the "thinking" out of the human designation of "thinking animal".

So, when they say "your gonna kill yourself on that thing", you must be able to respond with: "I think I can handle it.  Why do you think I'm incapable and deficient with ability?"  Listen.  If it's about your own behavior, they could be right!  An attitude adjustment just might be in order to prove them wrong and ensure your well being.  If it's about their own fears, lack of understanding or lack of abilities, it's their problem.  You'll have to decide for yourself if it is worth helping them overcome their problem.  Recognition is but the first step, though.  If you want them in your life, then "include" them in your thought process, activities, and learning experience.  When they know what you do, they will understand.  If not, beware of "control" or "mental manipulation" issues.  If these are underlying, it may never get resolved to either or both parties satisfaction.

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I am really glad that I have never had that statement directed at me by my wife.  When i meet my wife I had two motorcycles, so, I guess she accepted my hobby/passion.  She has never put a condion on me with any of my hobbies because she knows that I not only enjoy them, but they are also part of my personality.

My advice to you guys is find a girl like mine and marry her.  If you have the conditional woman, you are in deep s**t.

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It's ok if she's scared that you kill yourself on your bike. That means she cares for you. If my girlfriend is on a biketrip by herself, I'm scared she crashes too. I just tell her to be carefull, I don't expect her to stop riding...
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Sparty is exactly right!  My first wife was and still is the conditional type.  My current wife is the included type, according to TT.
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I am really glad that I have never had that statement directed at me by my wife.  When i meet my wife I had two motorcycles, so, I guess she accepted my hobby/passion.  She has never put a condion on me with any of my hobbies because she knows that I not only enjoy them, but they are also part of my personality.

My advice to you guys if find a girl like mine and marry her.  If you have the conditional woman, you are in deep s**t.

Sparty

I agree with Sparty. My wifey has never given me a condition to sell the bike.

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The first step to a healthy relationship between your motorcycle and your lady is to either (a) own/ride the motorcycle before meeting the lady, or (b) buy the motorcycle in pieces and take your time fixing it if you're involved with the lady pre-motorcycle.  This way the motorcycle becomes a project, and the woman becomes accepting of the "hobby".  Riding is just the natural end result of such a project, and by the time you get the thing put together she will have grown accustomed to it   ;D
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OK my wife forced me off a bike for a few years. We went to a party and one of my old riding buddies just got a bike, his wife forced him off also. My wife said, "how could you let him get a bike, no Bobby will want one and we could lose them. My friends wife told her"

"These guys are in their 40s that midlife crisis thing.
If we lose them to a Bimbo, all we get is 1/2.
If we lose them on a Bike, we get it all."

The next week a we ran into a couple that was moving and the guy offered me a bike. My wife saiid, maybe you should go look at it. She drove to Sears to get me a battery to ride it home.

Yes I do wonder, but what the hell, that was 2 bike ago. The women are all about the money, it is a security thing I guess. I am worth more dead than alive on paper.
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One of the reasons I got together with my wife is that I had a motorcycle.
Now my ex wife was a different story. Its a good thing I went into that relationship preequiped because she never would have allowed me to buy one and constantly tried to get me to get rid of it. She even tried to bribe me with a jetski.

As to the "Your gonna kill yourself on that thing" my ex said that once and I responded "You may be right and I may die on it but it will be somebody that drives like you and does look where they are going that kills me."  
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It doesn't  always happen this way but when i first met my wife I asked her if she had a problem with me riding a bike.  She proceeded to ask when she could have a ride!   ;D  (The perfect woman!!)  That was over 5 years ago and now that we have a daughter running around the house she still kisses me to start off my day as I throw my leg over the bike to commute to work.  She was even the one who suggested i buy a new bike so i have something "more reliable".  I didn't have the heart to tell her the 750 was near bullet proof as long as i took care of it!  I love my new to me 2005 VFR800 just as much as my 76 750F! 

P.S.  Yes she has a sister but she's married too and rides on the back of her husbands bike...   :D
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