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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #325 on: October 31, 2008, 01:36:37 pm »
yea il just do all 4, thanks cafe750.
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #326 on: October 31, 2008, 02:33:24 pm »
Use a good adhesive.  That part is exposed to fuel vapor and heat.

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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #327 on: October 31, 2008, 02:44:54 pm »
The 39mm pods fit on the 77 and 78 550 only. If you have 76 and earlier, go with the unipods.
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #328 on: October 31, 2008, 05:30:06 pm »
Use a good adhesive.  That part is exposed to fuel vapor and heat.

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any good recomondations???  i was thinkin some type of two part epoxy?
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #329 on: October 31, 2008, 05:53:58 pm »
or you could do what i did  ;D ;D


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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #330 on: November 01, 2008, 03:27:06 am »
Use a good adhesive.  That part is exposed to fuel vapor and heat.

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any good recomondations???  i was thinkin some type of two part epoxy?


I'm not sure, two part epoxy might be too rigid and therefore brittle.  Silicone caulk would be too soft, so somewhere between those extremes I'd think.

There's an adhesive/sealant called Goop that I've used for some things, was pretty happy with it and it should do the job fine.  Any chemically resistant adhesive that dries semi-flexible should be ok.

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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #331 on: November 01, 2008, 09:22:16 am »
i almost notched the frame like that. it was that or cut the filter i decided on cutting the filter because my filters are longer then that and i would have to cut the entier peice out and move it back. little too much fab work on a POS  for me. yours looks nice though
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #332 on: November 02, 2008, 02:24:05 pm »
so i cut them and they came out awesome. they look better than before!
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Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #333 on: November 13, 2008, 07:04:08 am »
Does anyone know the performance gains (if any) with pods on a stock 550 motor?
Do individual pods take away from the smoothness of the 550 motor?
How about with adding just a cam to the stock motor (with header)?
Will the stock airbox allow for increased (bigger) jetting?

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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #334 on: November 13, 2008, 07:47:12 am »
Search "PODS" and/or "AIRBOX"

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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #335 on: November 13, 2008, 08:29:52 am »
Yeah, if you've got a 77 or 78, you might want to have a look at the threads in my signature.
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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #336 on: November 13, 2008, 08:48:18 am »
Pods will restrict air flow much less than the stock airbox, leaning out the mixture considerably.  you will need to adjust your carbs (jetting, needle position) to add more fuel.  If you're not willing to do that, keep the box.

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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #337 on: November 13, 2008, 09:12:03 am »
Dont pods do the opposite of restrict? They let in more air than an airbox that's why more fuel is needed in the jetting process.
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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #338 on: November 13, 2008, 09:18:52 am »
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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #339 on: November 13, 2008, 09:27:25 am »
Your on the right track, follow ed's links. ;)

Man steppin' into here and hearin' about peformance mods in the vernaculation of a cam and header sounds like car jazz to me, Just missin' somethin about a huge carb and flowmasters with slicks. ;D
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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #340 on: November 13, 2008, 09:50:08 am »
somebody hide this thread from TT.    ;D ;)

seriously, use the search function. i'm pretty well there has been a thread with this exact same title. there are definitely many on the subject.
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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #341 on: November 13, 2008, 10:11:46 am »
Seriously paulages, I did. I didn't find what I was looking for.
I'll check Ed's links.

Thanks.

OK, one more question, is there a less restrictive stock filter replacement?
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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #342 on: November 13, 2008, 10:17:30 am »
Seriously paulages, I did. I didn't find what I was looking for.
I'll check Ed's links.

Thanks.

OK, one more question, is there a less restrictive stock filter replacement?

Hey max,
Welcome to the fourm.
Make sure you're using the search bar at the top right of the page and not the "google bar" on the left.
There is scads of pages on the subject. search "pods".
or look at my posts from about a year ago june and july. Thats when i was going through the same bit.

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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #343 on: November 13, 2008, 10:20:15 am »
Whats a pod?  ::)

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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #344 on: November 13, 2008, 10:23:10 am »
Thanks Porscheguy!

I hope to have a whizzzbanger lol of a bike by winters end.
I am just researching what state of tune I want to go with.
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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #345 on: November 13, 2008, 10:27:10 am »
Seriously paulages, I did. I didn't find what I was looking for.
I'll check Ed's links.

Thanks.

OK, one more question, is there a less restrictive stock filter replacement?

yes- uni makes a replacement.
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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #346 on: November 13, 2008, 10:28:34 am »
Whats a pod?  ::)

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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #347 on: November 13, 2008, 10:33:23 am »
Dont pods do the opposite of restrict? They let in more air than an airbox that's why more fuel is needed in the jetting process.
Allow me to refine your perception.
First, not all pod brands are the same or offer equivalent restriction qualities among the general class of "pods".
Some pods allow more air to pass at high RPMs (like red line and above), when inlet air speeds are high.  More air, more O2, can get you more power.
At lower inlet air speeds they simply reduce the vacuum levels in the carbs throats, which, in turn, have less suction draw on internal fuel jets.
Therefore to compensate, the orifices must be enlarged to draw the SAME amount of fuel the old jets delivered with a higher carb throat vacuum.
At low inlet velocities, the engine displacement and cam efficiency determine the air volume consumed. Inlet restriction here plays a non-significant role in 02 delivery, but a significant role in carb throat vacuum.

The only RPM range that PODS can improve power is at or near red line where the main jet dominates the fuel mixture.  If you plan to flog your motor at these high RPMS regularly, then pods may provide some benefit.

Anyone have a CB550 motor with pods and still getting 40-50MPG?  I suspect, many bikes with pods are over jetted, with the misconception that big jets automatically equal more power.  In reality, it often just makes the motor far less efficient.

OK, one more question, is there a less restrictive stock filter replacement?

Yes, the UNI NU-4055 is a drop in foam replacement.  I do not know how much it improves the airflow at and above Red line RPMs.  It does slightly lean the carb mixtures in the lower RPMs.  But, not so much that rejetting has been required.  I'm not sure about 550's with PD carbs, though.  With these bikes, the exhaust type becomes and important factor.

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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #348 on: November 13, 2008, 10:34:55 am »
just searched "pods airbox" and came up with 11 pages, but here a few good ones:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=22036.0
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=34549.0
and this one for a good TT reply:http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=2123.0

there should be a "thoughts of TwoTired" thread (like the hondaman one) all about modifying carb setup and wiring. come to think of it, much of that is probably in the FAQs.
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Re: Pods vs Airbox (550)
« Reply #349 on: November 13, 2008, 10:35:38 am »
Whats a pod?  ::)

It's what the mothership sends when it's time to go...

Is it time to go?   ;D