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Offline drdreas

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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #425 on: May 18, 2009, 10:22:00 am »
I'm very interested in this as I want pods for the look but don't want to deal with the hassle of re-jetting. What makes these different than other pods in that respect? Are they simply more restrictive? Do you have any pics of your bike with them on? I'd love to see how they look compared to conical pods.

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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #426 on: May 18, 2009, 10:22:51 am »
Installed pix?

What main jets do you run?
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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #427 on: May 18, 2009, 10:25:19 am »
believe it or not..i run 105s...I will get some pics
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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #428 on: May 18, 2009, 10:32:36 am »
here is the pic of the pods http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0002hgb.jpg

I think its the prefilter that makes it run smoother....it is about .5" thick
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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #429 on: May 18, 2009, 01:03:58 pm »
believe it or not..i run 105s...I will get some pics

Is 105 the stock jet size for the 77/78k? Also, why did you go with the slant filters? Do the straight ones not fit? Is the only difference between the two just for fitment purposes?


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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #430 on: May 18, 2009, 01:10:54 pm »
what is sticking out of the manifold... looks like a nipple or tongue of some sort.   ??? ???
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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #431 on: May 18, 2009, 02:50:01 pm »
stock jets..yup....it will fit with a straight filter..but since it is slanted its a lot easier to wiggle them on the carbs.
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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #432 on: May 18, 2009, 02:59:24 pm »
what is sticking out of the manifold... looks like a nipple or tongue of some sort.   ??? ???

You're referring to the picture in the ebay listing? I think its someone's finger and they are holding the filter up on it.


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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #433 on: May 18, 2009, 03:15:09 pm »
here is the pic of the pods http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0002hgb.jpg

I think its the prefilter that makes it run smoother....it is about .5" thick


Do most other conical pods not have a prefilter? Anyone else weigh in one why these don't require re-jetting?

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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #434 on: May 18, 2009, 03:32:46 pm »
From what I'm seeing, the "prefilter" here is a foam sleeve that goes over the main filter.  You could add those to any pod I suppose.

Has anyone ever collapsed a pod at WOT??  I've never even heard of such a thing happening.

If each carb sees approximately the same intake resistance as provided by the stock airbox, then jetting will not need to be changed.  Most pods (and of course velocity stacks) provide less intake resistance than the stock airbox and hence "require" rejetting as described elsewhere by TT.

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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #435 on: May 18, 2009, 03:40:11 pm »
I dunno about CB750 collapsing..but I had several instinces on my mustang where the foam filter didnt have a metal reinforcement on it and it did...so this made me feel good that a cheaper than usual filter actually went ahead and designed a proper filter for not  a lot of money.

Yes..I am running stock 105 jets...and the plugs look absolute gems...perfect...a little bronze tint

its between number 14 and 15...so its danged good...had the filters on for about 2 weeks
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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #436 on: May 18, 2009, 03:42:44 pm »
Yes..I am running stock 105 jets...


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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #437 on: May 18, 2009, 03:45:44 pm »
yup I got in nine days..and they provide tracking..plus they send it registered mail...pretty good deal.
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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #438 on: May 18, 2009, 06:04:37 pm »
I got some pods for my 500 'cause the airbox was a pita to remove.  It ran real lean so i changed to d8ea plugs like i read hondaman say on here in the faq.  I also got some k&n oil for them.  I'm pretty sure that stuff is just automatic transmission fluid!  What a rip!!
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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #439 on: May 18, 2009, 09:05:09 pm »
I run d7ea...one step hotter :)
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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #440 on: May 18, 2009, 09:27:38 pm »
what is sticking out of the manifold... looks like a nipple or tongue of some sort.   ??? ???

You're referring to the picture in the ebay listing? I think its someone's finger and they are holding the filter up on it.



so it was a body part.   :D
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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #441 on: May 19, 2009, 06:25:51 am »
I run d7ea...one step hotter :)

So if Im understanding correctly, it IS necessary to switch to these hotter plugs due to the leaning that the pods will induce? Is this a work around to not re-jetting? Thanks for the patience, I don't quite understand all the factors involved in running pods and want to get to the facts.

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Re: Pods that wont make your bike run lean for 77/78 Carbs
« Reply #442 on: May 19, 2009, 06:32:42 am »
nope I've ran hotter plugs since I got the bike
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Re: Pods Thread
« Reply #443 on: July 09, 2009, 07:56:54 pm »
I too was a pod user. One of the first things that came off the bike was the stock air box. After reading this thread, the air box went back on! I ordered some new rubber tubes and an air cleaner. My 750 has NEVER RAN THIS GOOD! I have awakened a smooth running,high reving,monster. Gone are the days of sputtering at high rpm and exhaust popping when letting off the throttle. Thanks to all for giving me my bike back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Pods Thread
« Reply #444 on: July 10, 2009, 03:24:08 am »
Yep, aesthetics aside, on a stock engine, pods are pretty useless. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Pods Thread
« Reply #445 on: July 10, 2009, 08:05:28 am »
Hello, I'm Sheetrok, I'm a POD user......(group in unison) "Hello Sheetrok".

Sorry, 1st thing that came to mind. :).
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Re: Pods Thread
« Reply #446 on: July 10, 2009, 05:51:11 pm »
i had a bad response when I put pods on my bike. boy could you hear her sucking wind! they looked cool, sounded cooler, but..... she ran like poop! off they came and, ugg!, back on with that bloody airbox. I figured if maybe one could line the inside of the pods with another thicker material they could create enough resistance to work. it's a very simple principal at work here after all?

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Re: Pods Thread
« Reply #447 on: July 11, 2009, 05:16:52 am »
I actually ran early K&N pods on my first K1 back in the early 80's with no problems at all, the K&N spray on pod oil was more like wax back then and I'm sure it was designed to restrict the air flow somewhat, because I didn't need to change the jetting or even play with the mixture at all.

Conversely, the cheaper pods that you see on EBay and on some online store sites ("Emgo" stuff comes to mind) nowadays wouldn't work with that stuff as the "mesh" is mostly wire with very little in the way of actual cardboard filter material like those old K&N's had. The cheapies are more like "rock strainers" than actual filters. ;D
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Re: Pods Thread
« Reply #448 on: October 04, 2009, 12:00:06 am »
So, if I install pods on my 400, but manufacture some sort of restriction INSIDE the pod itself, to limit the airflow into the carb, would this save the hassle of re-jetting? If I put a piece of drilled out sheet metal inside the pod, theoretically I can keep the amount of air the same as a stock airbox right? Has anyone tried this? It seems so obvious, I can't be the first to think of this. If not, I'll do it and let you guys know. While we're on the subject, anyone know the size of jet to try with a CB400F running pods? Running Kerker headers and pipe?

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Re: Pods Thread
« Reply #449 on: October 04, 2009, 01:38:08 am »
An airbox equalises vacuum. pods cannot. Sheet metal with drilled holes will cause whacky turbulence and give you weird mixtures at different throttle positions.
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