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where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« on: May 04, 2007, 03:17:42 AM »
Hi all,

I´d like to use threebond 1104 for engine case reassembly of my CB 500 Four.
Unfortunately three bond germany says they won´t sell to private customers, only to companies :-(
As they couldn´t be bothered to give further assistance to buy their products, maybe someone here can help find a source in germany or europe where to get the stuff online...

Thanks and regards,
Alex

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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2007, 12:55:49 PM »
Hi Alex, i have seen three bond on ebay in the uk , if you can't get that try Hylomar blue its good stuff worked great on my 750 casings  ;)     mick.
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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2007, 06:49:04 PM »
1104 is now 1194 - you will still see some of the older 1104 in bike shops for a while until stocks get exhausted.  Supposedly threebond reformulated the goo a little.  I'm not sure of the changes, but at first glance it appears to be basically the same goo.  I must admit, it's my first choice for a general purpose gasket goo .

International shipping - 1104/1194 is considered a hazardous material - consequently it should not be shipped internationally without all the hazardous material documentation.

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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2007, 10:38:01 PM »
I shipped Yamabond to Raul in Spain no problem. Same stuff.
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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2007, 11:38:41 PM »
Presumably "in disguise" Mike?

Just wrap it up and write "gift" on the paperwork...
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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2007, 06:38:40 AM »
Presumably "in disguise" Mike?

Just wrap it up and write "gift" on the paperwork...
You know Steve I never even considered it hazardous. It isn't a liquid (even if it leaked it wouldn't get out of the package), it's not fragile, it is not an aerosol etc. I consider shipping charged batteries, fireworks, ammunition, caustic liquids more on the hazardous end of the spectrum. I know aerosol containers aren't supposed to be shipped via air mail. I shipped Raul some copper never seize too....is that considered hazardous? I know Vegemite IS hazardous. ;)
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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2007, 06:59:23 AM »
What they don't know about, won't frighten them.

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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2007, 08:03:43 AM »
Steve is correct BUT by god the faces dropped at Orlando International when i put two cardboard boxes through the x-ray
One had a complete 500 dissasembled gearbox the other a 605 overbore kit!!

Good job i wrote in BIG lettere "Vintage/obsolete Motorcycle Parts" all over the boxes
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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2007, 09:18:23 AM »
Yep, Mike did to me a big favour by buying that stuff for me and sending it over.


Regarding the original question, later I found a german company (Alex, I'm talking about Louis). They sell copper grease (kupferpaste) and they sell Hylomar too.


In this case, the best bet is to put in the custom form something like "motorcycle gasket", and avoid something as "chemical compound"...  ;D


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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2007, 01:19:04 PM »
three bond is indeed nice but at the price they charge for it, no way!

Been using Arexons 552 Rhodorseal at a fraction of the cost of 1104/1194 with very good results, zero leaks, doesnt harden and easy to remove.
dont now where you arein europe but in italy and france at least, it is very easy to find

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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2007, 05:31:47 PM »
MRieck, the threebond cartons come with hazmat wording on them... 

I can't tell you how they determine what is hazardous, but we have to be very careful shipping many products - most chemicals fit in this category - strangely, even Mothers aluminum polish paste is considered hazardous.  I would expect much is down to the fumes being flammable.  These days the penalties for shipping hazmat materials without the right paperwork is severe.

Have a look at these pages:
http://www.hazmat-news.com/
http://www.specializedshippingllc.com/home_page_005.htm

It's a little scary the fines you can be hit with...

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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2007, 07:49:59 PM »
MRieck, the threebond cartons come with hazmat wording on them... 

I can't tell you how they determine what is hazardous, but we have to be very careful shipping many products - most chemicals fit in this category - strangely, even Mothers aluminum polish paste is considered hazardous.  I would expect much is down to the fumes being flammable.  These days the penalties for shipping hazmat materials without the right paperwork is severe.

Have a look at these pages:
http://www.hazmat-news.com/
http://www.specializedshippingllc.com/home_page_005.htm

It's a little scary the fines you can be hit with...


Good info. I have a tube of 1104 unopened in the box from 2002 and it doesn't state hazardous. Tubes of Yamabond and Hondabond don't say anything though that very well may have changed. I couldn't help but notice that only companies were fined. I didn't see any private citizens. Looks like someone could get screwed for shipping used carbs!
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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2007, 11:58:35 PM »
Yep, I don't think sending individual items will raise any alarm -unless there is a "terror alert" and people get paranoid". If I'm a factory and want to ship boxes of my stuff abroad, it just makes sense to find and alternative way. Aerosols and flammable liquids are forbidden, but I travel with my shaving foam spray and my "eau de cologne" and until now, I have never been fined for that.

I guess the best bet is to erase any sign about the "hazardousness", be creative on the description, and send it along. The problem is that security personal are instructed not to use the little common sense they could have, so they just follow directions and can't decide whether something is hazardous or not just by following their common sense. I recall somebody at the check-in told me that if I carry an alarm clock in the suitcase I had to switch it of, because if it rings it could raise an alarm -no pun intended- "what?" If there is a bomb inside a suitcase, I doubt the bomber will make the clock will ring before the big bang.

This could be an endless debate. I have stated before what big incongruency it is that the police in Spain can arrest you for carrying a knife, but nothing will happen to you if you carry an x-acto knife.


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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2007, 03:16:39 AM »
Try this link.
http://cgi.ebay.es/Threebond-Liquid-Gasket-1104-Three-Bond-100gram_W0QQitemZ270117799206QQihZ017QQcategoryZ30928QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I think there won't be problems with shipping. I received two VHT sprays from Germany and there was no problem.

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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2007, 08:45:52 AM »
You can order it from www.z1enterprises.com . That's where I bought and got it shipped to Norway. The price is good, and the shipping is fast and smooth as well.  8)

http://www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?ID=178


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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2007, 07:06:19 AM »
I recently bought some Threebond 1104.  The seller on e-bay u.k. is contactable on 01473 232908, ask for Patrick.  I can't remember which part of the country he is, but it was South of Watford gap!  Cost me about £18 with postage, for a big 200grm Tube.  It says Flammable and Harmful if swallowed on the box.  I put it in the hold on my flight back to the Middle east, unfortunately they conviscated my cans of Simoniz 5 Wheel Silver Paint!

I used Hylomar Blue on the crankcases of my CBX1000 in 1985 after 4th gear kept jumping out, with no problems.  But this forum appears to be in favour of 1104, so that's what I shall be using on my 750.
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Re: where can I get three bond 1104 in europe??
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2007, 02:49:03 AM »
Hi,

i finally bought it on eBay UK from seller kaipup, it came shipped within a week. Price was 25 Euros, shipping was about 50 percent of that amount.

Thanks for your help,
Alex  :)