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Offline Cowboy

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Anyone know about spark arrestors on Honda Bikes?
« on: May 04, 2007, 07:55:16 AM »
I've been getting into riding my CB350 off-road (or at least on "unimproved" roads) lately. I live in an area with lots of National Forest and BLM land. Both agencies require spark arrestors on bikes.

I'm wondering whether the stock mufflers on my 1970 CB350 are spark arrestors or not.  The agencies publish a guide to approved spark arrestors, and one of the systems they show in the diagrams of stock Honda spark arrestors looks like my stock exhaust, but I can't find any marking indication a model number on my muffler. Does anyone know where I should look for that marking?
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Re: Anyone know about spark arrestors on Honda Bikes?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2007, 10:18:05 AM »
i thought spark arrestors were  just used on 2 strokes?
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Re: Anyone know about spark arrestors on Honda Bikes?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2007, 10:43:36 AM »

 Many 4 strokes have them too now, even 4x4 trucks.

 my KLX had one.

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Re: Anyone know about spark arrestors on Honda Bikes?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2007, 10:45:53 AM »
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Re: Anyone know about spark arrestors on Honda Bikes?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2007, 08:45:42 PM »

 seems that the CB had low pipes intended for on road use, so I don't think it's likely that they'd be spark arrestors if it's stock pipes.
 the one on my klx was pretty much just a tube with some screen and louvers on the end that could be replaced with the 'road' tip

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Re: Anyone know about spark arrestors on Honda Bikes?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2007, 11:25:00 AM »
I asked a similar question on another forum, and someone suggested that older bikes, that pre-date the spark arrestor requirement, do not need them. Unfortunately, I can't find any indication of such an exemption on any Forest Service, BLM or State Trails sites. They all indicate that all motorcycles must have spark arrestors if they are used on lands belonging to those agencies.

I agree that four-stroke bikes are far less likely to start a fire, since there is so little unburnt fuel exiting their tailpipes, but the spark arrestor requirement is really meant to catch bits of hot carbon, like the stuff that builds up on your plugs and valves when your fuel mixture is over-rich. Those bits of carbon build up in four-strokes too, just not as predictably as with two-strokes.

I'd like to make my 1970 CB350 legal to operate in the forest, but I can't find any sort of universal spark arrestor that looks remotely like stock CB350 pipes. I don't want to bolt a couple of mufflers on the bike that are designed for some modern dirt bike. I've thought about switching to CL350 pipes, but I can't confirm that they are approved spark arrestors either.

1964 Honda CT200
1967 Chang Jiang 750 Sidecar
1970 Honda CB350
1978 Honda CB550