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Offline ieism

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Who's going to win Moto GP this year?
« on: May 08, 2007, 10:39:08 AM »
I haven't got a tv, so I missed 2 races but ....Stoner/Ducati looks very strong this year. The bike is fast, the Bridgestones are working and Stoner is giving 110% too. You think he will keep this up the rest of the season, or will Rossi beat him on the slower circuits.

Who's your favorite for this years title...
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Re: Who's going to win Moto GP this year?
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2007, 12:18:23 PM »
As Rossi himself has said, the Ducati has lots more oomph on the circuits with the long straights. So Stoner can capitalise on that strength. However, as soon as they get into the technical stuff the others (and especially Rossi) catch up, as we saw last weekend.

Now that the racing is heading back to Europe and the more 'technical' circuits I think we'll see the others catch up. Having said that I am looking forward to seeing how the youngster does.

My money is on Rossi, though.
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Re: Who's going to win Moto GP this year?
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2007, 01:16:02 PM »
Rossi, barring a bunch of mechanical DNFs like last year will take it all.  Stoner is really impressive so far.  Looks like he's matured a lot and really knows that Ducati's limits.  Big horsepower or not...there are not many riders who can keep a 3 second gap on Rossi.  Tires are a huge deal and Bridgestone is making Michelin look really bad.

Ducati has hit the perfect setup in most of the races so far.  If they keep that up, Stoner has a chance.  If they miss it at a few rounds, it will be interesting to see how he responds.  Rossi has the talent to ride through tire and setup issues.  He's consistently quick even when his machine is not.  We haven't seen enough of Stoner to know how he will adapt, but he is out there beating the crap out of a bunch of veterans this year.

Biggest disappointment of the season...Colin Edwards.  He's always fast in practice, qualifies well, and then goes backwards in the race.  WTF?  I didn't expect Nicky to do much early in the year.  He may podium a couple times and probably win Laguna again.  Pedrosa will fight with Stoner for 2nd in the championship.

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Re: Who's going to win Moto GP this year?
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2007, 01:20:44 PM »
Stoner and his Duc are really kicking!  I've never seen Rossi get so flustered and actually run off the track, as he did in China.  Holy cow!  Rossi's bike and/or tires must be really lacking this year, as I've never seen Rossi make such mistakes before.  Yet, he still came in second!
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Re: Who's going to win Moto GP this year?
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2007, 02:14:07 PM »
Rossi's bike and/or tires must be really lacking this year, as I've never seen Rossi make such mistakes before. 

He really showed that he is not impregnable at the last race last season, when all he had to do was keep Hayden in his sights to win the Championship. A silly mistake there and it was all over....talk about handing the Championship over on a gold platter!!
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Re: Who's going to win Moto GP this year?
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2007, 07:13:48 AM »
Rossi will win, but not without a good fight.  The Yamaha has the best chassis and will prove it on the twistier tracks.  The Ducati has the best motor or at least the best top speed package.  Honda has a good motor, but the chassis needs work.  Suzuki has  a good all around package.

I think as the year goes on, the Japanesse mfgs. will begin to close the top speed advantage the Ducati has.  Remember, these are all new bikes and everyone is still learning.

The tires are a big question.  Bridgestone definitely seems to have the upper hand now after consistently making inroads into Michilins dominance and Michilin hasn't seemed to be able to respond and continue to loss ground each year.

Everything is subject to change.  That's what makes it great... but I do feel that Rossi will prevail.

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Re: Who's going to win Moto GP this year?
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2007, 07:36:54 AM »
I dont care, I just want the winners bike! Even second place would be great! :D

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Re: Who's going to win Moto GP this year?
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2007, 07:55:05 AM »
I dont care, I just want the winners bike! Even second place would be great! :D

Who are you kiidding?  We would all take the last place bike and be the happiest people in the World!   ;D

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Re: Who's going to win Moto GP this year?
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2007, 08:34:24 AM »
Hey leave my little dream world alone! ;D

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Re: Who's going to win Moto GP this year?
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2007, 06:13:22 PM »
While we're dreaming, I'll take this one.

The Duc that is,

20,000rpm Blat, Blat.

For 2007, The FIM and the manufacturers will change the formula for MotoGP bikes to limit the engines to 800cc. The days of two-stroke are finally be over in the premier class, too, as they have been outlawed. The bikes now have to weigh a little more, with the exception of anyone wanting to run a single or twin in the class.

The new 800cc limit should lead to machines that are a little slower, but the Valencia tests are showing that these new machines are only a second of the race lap times from the 990cc bikes last race. Such performance must be making the FIM and track owners grimace. These rules were instituted to slow things down and make the tracks a safer place. Tracks like Suzuka have become marginal at least in respect of safety, which is a great pity. These new 800cc bikes were meant to give these older tracks a hope in staying in the homolgation fray, without having to suffer huge redesign costs.

So what will an 800 do? Well it looks at the moment that the bikes spin to somewhere in the region of 20,000 rpm. The older 990's were up to about 18,000. They seem to be making something like 200 - 220bhp peak, maybe 40bhp less than the 990's, and are clearly not a lot slower than the 990's. Even more electronics are involved here, not that the 990's suffered from an absence ofthe stuff, but the 800's will gain even more electronic engine control to tame the postulated peaky power output and make them more user friendly.

Size wise these engines should be quite a bit smaller than the "old" 990's. One presumes that the stroke on these things is pretty much at the bottom end of what it can be, say 20mm, therefore the pistons will be quite a bit smaller than the 990's, which means the bores can be closed up even more, think of taking maybe an inch out of the engine width on a straight 4 (like the M1) or half an inch with the V-4 engines.