Author Topic: XS650 project thread - April 2011 - Getting set for 2nd season :) (Read 69515 times)

Tim. · « **Reply #150 on:** November 09, 2007, 06:46:03 PM »

Some more to whet the appetite - thanks for the thumbs up guys - means a lot from you.

Popped in the new fork seals, washers & retaining rings and decided to put the front end together for kicks. The lower tree was left off because a) it needs to be recoated and b) we didn't mask the area for the fork tubes so they don't fit. It will be blasted and then recoated next week. I did confirm it fits like a glove in the front end with the lower bearing race in, which I hadn't had a chance to do prior to this.

So once I get it recoated, it's ready to go on the bike more or less. Still need to do the bearings on the front wheel and cut down a spacer for it.

CrisPDuk · « **Reply #151 on:** November 09, 2007, 07:13:57 PM »

Mrs Tintin is obviously a more understanding person than MrsDuk

If I even merely thought about bringing a piece of one of my vehicles into the house just to photograph it, she would remove my crown jewels with a blunt spoon, and use them as earings

Tim. · « **Reply #152 on:** November 09, 2007, 07:31:03 PM »

SHHHHH! Don't tell my wife I assembled the front end in her craft-room

The only part of the bike that's outside is the engine at the moment. Everything else is tucked away in boxes etc. and the frame/tank is inside in a safe place too. That's my basement. I finished the entire thing, leaving almost no room for my tools etc. and no room to put a bike together unfortunately. The Mrs. got a 16x10 foot craft-room out of the deal, and I got my family room/home theatre.

Too chilly for the garage these nights. Need to get a heater out there for the assembly which I hope to begin in coming weeks. Need to get it rolling so I can focus on electrics and final touches.

CrisPDuk · « **Reply #153 on:** November 09, 2007, 07:34:49 PM »

You know she won't need telling

She's a woman, she'll just know

DarkRider · « **Reply #154 on:** November 10, 2007, 05:48:03 AM »

Lookin great so far tintin

bwaller · « **Reply #155 on:** November 10, 2007, 03:40:09 PM »

I haven't checked in for a while, bloody dial-up. You're doing a bang up job Tin. I wish I would have found your welder a couple years ago, my guy refused to weld on my fork legs.

The excitement level must be increasing!

Tim. · « **Reply #156 on:** November 11, 2007, 08:11:22 AM »

Their only hesitation on the welding was any internal bits that might get damaged by the heat. But, the forks were completely disassembled so there wasn't an issue there. It was inexpensive as well - paid $40 on top of the polishing cost to have the tab welded on and the caliper mounts ground off of both fork legs.

crazypj · « **Reply #157 on:** November 11, 2007, 09:26:18 AM »

The main reasons weldors (welder is the machine) refuse to weld on fork legs are they actually know what they are doing. The cast fork legs can distort (frequently do) the weld may be of different material and crack.
If the forks move smooth through full travel you found a good one.( but I would keep an eye on the weld)
Used to know a guy who would cut up pistons, crankcases, fork legs (any thing alloy if he knew where it came from) and use them as filler.
Made notes of year and bike so he knew what he was welding with (he had stuff from the 50's!)
He's been gone a while now but was probably the bes weldor I've ever seen.
PJ

bill440cars · « **Reply #158 on:** November 11, 2007, 09:28:12 AM »

tintin,

I ALWAYS am amazed at just how this build of yours is going!

Like the others (and YOU, I'm sure), I'm a bit anxious to see ALL these details go together in ONE bike. It's almost more than I can even imagine. You're not actually gonna ride this masterpiece, ARE YOU?

Take care and please keep up the good work!

Later on, Bill

Tim. · « **Reply #159 on:** November 11, 2007, 03:10:16 PM »

Thanks again for all the kind words. Coming together slowly but surely.

I scored a set of Hagon shocks today on eBay. $20 for the pair

. They'll look the part on the bike once I clean them up a touch.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=260178749416

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #160 on:** November 12, 2007, 12:27:43 AM »

You've done well Tinny, can you pull the Hagon's apart and change the oil? That way they'll work as good as they look! Cheers, Terry.

Tim. · « **Reply #161 on:** November 16, 2007, 09:39:37 AM »

Looks like Hagons are totally sealed and non rebuildable. I'll take the spring off, assuming I can do that to clean everything up and make them look pretty. I don't think they're all that old, so should be ok for now. For $34 shipped to me, I couldn't go wrong.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #162 on:** November 17, 2007, 01:00:51 PM »

Yeah, no worries Tinny give 'em a try, like you said, for those dollars you can't go wrong! Cheers, Terry.

bryanj · « **Reply #163 on:** November 27, 2007, 09:25:53 AM »

Just remember my warning about the preload---still brings tears to my eyes 3 yrs later!!!

Tim. · « **Reply #164 on:** November 27, 2007, 10:13:58 AM »

Refresh my memories on that - I don't want to be crying when I get this thing together.

Latest update - my long awaited (full month) parts came in to allow me to put the swingarm together, only to not fit. Looks like I may have mushroomed the bronze bushings during the install. Going to have to see if they can be machined out while in the swingarm to fit the sleeve properly, otherwise I will need another set I guess. Which sucks.

CrisPDuk · « **Reply #165 on:** November 27, 2007, 05:29:34 PM »

Any machine shop worth the name should be able to ream them in the arm for you Tintin. We have rocker arms on some of the machines we make, that are very similar to a swing arm pivot, and we have the bushes machined after they are pressed in all the time

If you're struggling to find someone, why not ask Hondaman? He does CB swingarms, your's can't be that much different.

Tim. · « **Reply #166 on:** November 27, 2007, 09:08:11 PM »

I know I can get it done here - no need to be shipping heavy parts around the world

I'll probably take it to the guys who bored my cylinders for me. They're a top notch machine shop.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #167 on:** November 28, 2007, 08:18:39 PM »

Save yourself some more money Tinny, and buy a small master cylinder hone and some valve grinding paste, and using an electric drill, just "hone" those bushes out a tad.

Good bronze bushes "compress" a tad when you install them into your swingarm, and a MC hone is about the best thing for reaming them, as it'll take very little material out, the length of the stones will keep the bore parallel, and the valve grinding paste will keep 'em nice and smoothe, while accentuating the cutting action of the stones.

Make sure you wash out any remaining paste before you grease and assemble. Cheers, Terry.

CrisPDuk · « **Reply #168 on:** November 29, 2007, 01:08:10 AM »

Nice one Terry, that route never occurred to me $:-\$

I never have to think laterally about machining though, I just bring anything I want doing into work and hand it over to one of the guys

Payment is always 1 large bottle of Chang, no matter what the job

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #169 on:** November 29, 2007, 03:04:33 AM »

I know that feeling Crispy, when I was the Quarter Master of the Army Engineering Agency here in Oz, we had some of the best machines and operators, we actually did some work for Volvo, Ford and GM, because they couldn't afford the machinery and equipment that we had on tap.

Anyway, I bought a set of early Suzuki GSXR 750 forks for a GS1000S special (that I eventually sold to a guy in England) but the tubes were 3 inches too short, so I took 'em down to the engineering workshop, and the foreman, my Irish mate Trevor Campbell, (yes, he was Irish, but you can never trust a Campbell, ha ha!) machined up a pair of "Extensions" from Aircraft quality stainless steel, that screwed into the tops of the forks like the original fork caps, but the threaded portions were about an inch longer, and he made up new damper adjusting rods etc, they were like jewellery!

That job would have cost several hundred bucks at an outside engineering shop, but he wouldn't accept any money, so I had to literally force Trevor to accept a bottle of Irish whisky as payment! Those truly, were the days.............

CrisPDuk · « **Reply #170 on:** November 29, 2007, 06:41:03 AM »

The only trouble with having it on tap, is that you start getting thing machined that could you quite easily have done yourself In the garage, oh well, such is life

The stuff I've had family and friends carting back and forth in their luggage between here and home is laughable, my Mum is even threatening not to come again $:-\$ Which is nice

I'd best not let my Grandfather see the end of your post by the way

Any Irishman worth his salt will tell you that Whisky is that stuff the Scot's make for cleaning the drains, Whiskey is the nectar that emanates from the Emerald Isle

andy750 · « **Reply #171 on:** November 29, 2007, 09:00:23 AM »

Quote from: CrisPDuk on November 29, 2007, 06:41:03 AM

I'd best not let my Grandfather see the end of your post by the way Any Irishman worth his salt will tell you that Whisky is that stuff the Scot's make for cleaning the drains, Whiskey is the nectar that emanates from the Emerald Isle

Your just jealous Crispy....everyone knows there is only one TRUE whisky and thats made in good old Scotland

......

ekim98 · « **Reply #172 on:** November 29, 2007, 09:10:10 AM »

Quote from: andy750 on November 29, 2007, 09:00:23 AM

Your just jealous Crispy....everyone knows there is only one TRUE whisky and thats made in good old Scotland ......

"Glenlivet's for me please" on the rocks.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #173 on:** November 29, 2007, 12:09:42 PM »

Ok, so as not to offend any touchy cultural sensibilities, from now on, I'll just call it all "Booze", ha ha!

andy750 · « **Reply #174 on:** November 29, 2007, 01:22:45 PM »

Nah its all good Terry....though I did notice you GAVE him Irish whiskey....no one in their right mind would GIVE AWAY Scottish whisky - its too good

cheers
Andy

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