Author Topic: Fuel stabiliser (Read 6240 times)

Killer Canary · « **on:** May 10, 2007, 06:44:39 PM »

After reading fairly good things about this stuff from SOHC members I was fairly surprised to have my brother tell me that it gums up carbs and that he's cleaned it out of plenty of carbs at the shop he works in. Can any-one relate their experiences?

Magpie · « **Reply #1 on:** May 10, 2007, 07:49:00 PM »

I've used in my outboard gas and my bikes over the winter. The real old outboard gas, with stabilizer, I run in my lawnmower. It's a Honda of course. All motors are working well.
Cheers,
Cliff.

jlells01 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 10, 2007, 07:51:28 PM »

http://www.goldeagle.com/sta-bil/

I've used this stuff with great success - a whole lot better than putting up your equipment for long periods of time with just plain 'ol gas in the tank..

WJL75 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 10, 2007, 07:55:08 PM »

Sea Foam in the tank every winter without any issues. It helps to clean out the carbs too.

OldSchool_IsCool · « **Reply #4 on:** May 10, 2007, 08:20:59 PM »

I run SeaFoam in every tank, all year 'round, with great success.

Quail "Owner of the comfortable k8" · « **Reply #5 on:** May 10, 2007, 08:33:48 PM »

Quote from: Killer Canary on May 10, 2007, 06:44:39 PM

After reading fairly good things about this stuff from SOHC members I was fairly surprised to have my brother tell me that it gums up carbs and that he's cleaned it out of plenty of carbs at the shop he works in. Can any-one relate their experiences?

Sta-Bil= pay the bill I make a living cleaning that crap out of small engines. Sea Foam= happy person

gold01ca · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2007, 10:24:53 PM »

ditto, seafoam year round!

cheers!

old76cr · « **Reply #7 on:** May 11, 2007, 01:14:05 PM »

I"ve been using Sta-bil or some generic equivalent instead of draining the fuel and running dry for 20 years on all my seasonal equipment/rides with excellent results. My storage season lasts roughly from September to May and includes temperatures as low as -40. Things start right up in the spring. This is a must use in my opinion.

Short Round · « **Reply #8 on:** May 11, 2007, 01:24:14 PM »

seafoam for me, never had an issue with it at all, works great

eldar · « **Reply #9 on:** May 11, 2007, 01:30:27 PM »

Well this was the first winter trying stabil. And I must say that Things seems ok but there did seem to be a bit of gumming going on. I think next winter I will stick with seafoam. It may not last as long but then I am am not storing for a long time. SO back to seafoam, it has proven to be good stuff.

dusterdude · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2007, 01:50:57 PM »

i agree with eldar

old76cr · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2007, 04:09:28 PM »

Ive used stabil for a couple years. 2 years ago I stored my 75 in doors and didnt start it all winter, had stabil in the tank, ran it through the carbs and drained the bowls before parkin it. Had a couple floats hung up when I fired it up that spring, didnt have to take em apart they self cleaned but still...I hear nothing but good things about this Sea-Foam #$%*. Think Ill give it a try.

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Using Sta-bil requires that you do Not drain the fuel system. A full treated system is what prevents the gum from forming. No muss No fuss.

SuperVel · « **Reply #12 on:** May 11, 2007, 05:30:35 PM »

I have been using Sta-Bil in all of my equipment for well over fifteen years. Lawn mowers, tractors, outboards, I/O boat engines, motorcycles, motorhomes and whatever else. Sometimes I do not move the equipment for over two years. When I turn the key the engine starts just like the fuel was new and fresh. I have had no regrets in using Sta-Bil.

Take care

Marty.

jtb · « **Reply #13 on:** May 11, 2007, 06:25:25 PM »

Just realized that I've been out of Seafoam for several months. Thanks for the reminder.

TwoTired · « **Reply #14 on:** May 11, 2007, 06:39:01 PM »

Stabil and Seafoam have two different purposes. Seafoam is a cleaning solvent and lubricant.
Stabil delays the in tank oxidation of fuel that occurs over time which depletes its potency.

Both the fuel tank and carbs are vented to the atmosphere. The aromatics in gasoline, I think the heptanes (though I could be mistaken), evaporate.

Anyway, gas loses its volatility which increases its flash point and energy content. This is why old fuel makes engines hard to start. Stabil contains ingredients to delay the loss of gasoline's volatility. It is not a cure, though and it's effects are not indefinate.
Seafoam does don't have this ingredient, as that is not it's purpose. Seafoam helps keep in solution the chemical remnants of evaporation of the fuel, and helps delay rust and other oxidation of fuel system components when condensation occurs in the tank.

I don't know how, or if, these two products interact with each other, amicably, complementary, or antagonistically.

Cheers,

puppytrax · « **Reply #15 on:** May 12, 2007, 04:00:21 PM »

Quote from: SuperVel on May 11, 2007, 05:30:35 PM

I have been using Sta-Bil in all of my equipment for well over fifteen years. Lawn mowers, tractors, outboards, I/O boat engines, motorcycles, motorhomes and whatever else. Sometimes I do not move the equipment for over two years. When I turn the key the engine starts just like the fuel was new and fresh. I have had no regrets in using Sta-Bil.

Same here. Sta-Bil, in fuel-injected engines (Toyota RV; Corvette). I try to run them once a month, just to keep the injectors clear. No problems.

aptech77 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 13, 2007, 09:29:34 PM »

SEAFOAM

Steve F · « **Reply #17 on:** May 14, 2007, 04:30:38 AM »

I use STA-BIL in all of my small engine equipment, mower, tractor, weed-eater, tiller, generator, trimmer etc. and will swear by it. I have never had problems with gummin the carbs, and things will start on the first or second pull MAX even after sitting for two years. I have worked at a small engine repair facility for a couple of years, and the worst, most common problem is carb gumming and clogging from NOT using a fuel stabilizer. I personally haven't used SEAFOAM, but it sounds to me to be a fuel system cleaner more than a stabilizer. If I can find it in my area, I'll give it a try to keep things clean, but STA-BIL will always be in my equipment while in storage for more that 3 months.

eldar · « **Reply #18 on:** May 14, 2007, 06:21:06 AM »

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Using Sta-bil requires that you do Not drain the fuel system. A full treated system is what prevents the gum from forming. No muss No fuss.

Those would be the things on the can right? That gibberish writing? Well lets see, I put in sta-bil, added gas to the top and stored. Maybe there is some black magic ritual I missed.

puppytrax · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2007, 02:54:49 PM »

Quote from: eldar, Master of the K8 Thunder! on May 14, 2007, 06:21:06 AM

Those would be the things on the can right? That gibberish writing? Well lets see, I put in sta-bil, added gas to the top and stored. Maybe there is some black magic ritual I missed.

You do have to run the engine to get the treated gas into the fuel lines/carbs/injectors...Just dumping it in the tank doesn't do any good if the gas in the carbs/lines/injectors isn't treated...

But you know that...

eldar · « **Reply #20 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:15:47 AM »

running engine...check. top tank back up...check. Did it all and still seemed to have the sludgyness for the tank. Bike ran ok it just seemed to be more at idle. Once I ran through that tank and filled again, it cleared up in bit.

puppytrax · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2007, 02:11:46 PM »

Quote from: eldar, Master of the K8 Thunder! on May 15, 2007, 06:15:47 AM

running engine...check. top tank back up...check. Did it all and still seemed to have the sludgyness for the tank. Bike ran ok it just seemed to be more at idle. Once I ran through that tank and filled again, it cleared up in bit.

...

...I thought I understood what this thread was about...now you've lost me...

...are you trying to get rid of sludge that has already formed in your tank?? Sta-Bil won't do it...Sta-Bil is to keep the more volatile portion of the gasoline from evaporating...

Onlt way I know to get the sludgey stuff out is to get a long piece of fuel line, take a deep breath, exhale all the air, stick the line in the tank, and...ah...draw all the gas out...

If you have a mustache, this will hurt...

Then fill the tank with Gumout (well, at least pour a couple cans in) 100% and run it through!!! Then run your premium gas mixed with Gumout, Sta-Bil, Marvel Mystery Oil, STP Gas Treatment or whatever mystic concoction you prefer...

...My $.02...Now I'll shut up...

eldar · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2007, 05:21:45 PM »

What is was is that a few of us have noticed a slight gummy-ness for lack of a better word, after storing our bikes with sta-bil in the gas.

Quail "Owner of the comfortable k8" · « **Reply #23 on:** November 13, 2007, 09:31:17 PM »

Hello Old Friend.

MoTo-BunnY · « **Reply #24 on:** November 14, 2007, 12:40:33 AM »

Some Material Safety and Data Sheets (MSDS) fun:
(you can goOgle MSDS for almost anything - pretty enlightening info)

STA-BIL

PETROLEUM DISTILLATE 96.0%
UNIDENTIFIED COMPONENTS 4.0%
NAPHTHALENE 0-5%

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SEAFOAM

PALE OIL 40-60%
NAPHTHA 25-35%
IPA (Isopropyl Alcohol) 10-20%

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MARVEL MYSTERY OIL

Naphthenic Hydrocarbons (NAPHTHA) 80%
Mineral Spirits 20 – 30%
Chlorinated Hydrocarbons 0 – 1%

Basically looks like Naphtha (aka Zippo fluid. .lol) is good stuff in the tank. You find it in a lot of other 'fuel system cleaners' and what not, along with kerosene and mineral spirits.

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