Author Topic: Need some help with a GL500 Silverwing. Experts Needed!  (Read 3241 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline LoopsAndLogic

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 600
  • Dang IT!!!
Need some help with a GL500 Silverwing. Experts Needed!
« on: May 25, 2007, 10:56:56 AM »
As some as you know, the Honda GL500 Silverwing Interstates had an ill effect of poorly made water pump mechanical seals that required to be pressed in.

Well, I was wondering. After taking the cover off and getting a new seal pressed in, I noticed some rubber goop that is still on the cam shaft. Where the rubber of the seal rides on.

What could I use to remove this?? I've already used de-greasers....... So my next step is to use a fine brass wheel on my dremel.

Is this okay?

I can supply detailed pictures if needed.

Thanks for the help,

LL
My rides:
75' 76' Honda CB400F Super Sports
86' Honda XR600R for Street Madness
84' Honda Interceptor VF500

Past Rides:
80' Honda CX500C Fully Dressed
81' Honda CB650C very nice!
83' Kawasaki KZ550 A3
78' Hondamatic 400 Hawk
80' 81' 82' Honda GL500 Silverwing Insterstate

Offline nickjtc

  • I was numero dieci
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,210
  • Yamaha XT500 'Gromit'
Re: Need some help with a GL500 Silverwing. Experts Needed!
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2007, 12:05:37 PM »
Paint stripper might work...with appropriate care. I wouldn't have at sensitive areas with anything mechanical. Apart for potential damage to the item you might not see where all the detritus goes.
Nick J. Member #3247

2008 Triumph Tiger 1050
1977 Suzuki GS750

"That which does not kill us reminds us to wear proper motorcycle clothing...."

Offline LoopsAndLogic

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 600
  • Dang IT!!!
Re: Need some help with a GL500 Silverwing. Experts Needed!
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2007, 12:37:38 PM »
I never thought of that ::) ::) Dang it!

I'll try a very tiny area first.

 Anybody else have any other suggestions?

Thanks for the help

LL
My rides:
75' 76' Honda CB400F Super Sports
86' Honda XR600R for Street Madness
84' Honda Interceptor VF500

Past Rides:
80' Honda CX500C Fully Dressed
81' Honda CB650C very nice!
83' Kawasaki KZ550 A3
78' Hondamatic 400 Hawk
80' 81' 82' Honda GL500 Silverwing Insterstate

Offline bryanj

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,027
  • CB500 Number 1000036
Re: Need some help with a GL500 Silverwing. Experts Needed!
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2007, 07:31:09 AM »
Hers one for you,
The seal isnt what usually leaks!!!

Replace the thick copper washer under the impeller dome nut, you will probably have to get the Honda part as its an odd size.

Dont ask me how i know this I actually used to do the cam chain mod INSIDE the Honda warrantee time!!!
Semi Geriatric ex-Honda mechanic and MOT tester (UK version of annual inspection). Garage full of "projects" mostly 500/4 from pre 73 (no road tax in UK).

Remember "Its always in the last place you look" COURSE IT IS YOU STOP LOOKIN THEN!

Offline LoopsAndLogic

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 600
  • Dang IT!!!
Re: Need some help with a GL500 Silverwing. Experts Needed!
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2007, 07:37:04 PM »
Wow!!!! That might have been it. Ah ??? >:( >:(

So, now that I replaced all of it, what would you use to clean this leftover rubber goop that is on the cam end??

Yeah, my cam has already been modded, via Honda.

Thank you for the help

LL
My rides:
75' 76' Honda CB400F Super Sports
86' Honda XR600R for Street Madness
84' Honda Interceptor VF500

Past Rides:
80' Honda CX500C Fully Dressed
81' Honda CB650C very nice!
83' Kawasaki KZ550 A3
78' Hondamatic 400 Hawk
80' 81' 82' Honda GL500 Silverwing Insterstate

Offline crazypj

  • I'm brill, me
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,467
  • first 100,000 miles. 1977 CB550F
Re: Need some help with a GL500 Silverwing. Experts Needed!
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2007, 06:31:23 AM »
Hers one for you,
The seal isn't what usually leaks!!!

Replace the thick copper washer under the impeller dome nut, you will probably have to get the Honda part as its an odd size.

Dont ask me how i know this I actually used to do the cam chain mod INSIDE the Honda warrantee time!!!

I did quite a few of the cam chain mods as well, from the original  'place two punch marks in front of engine number on left crankcase side' to the last 'fully automatic' ones which weren't ::)
I got it down to about 1.5 hrs eventually (did a lot I think  ;))
 Haven't seen inside one for about 20 yrs though (aah, the 'good old days  ::))
 That washer was almost always squashed by the nut and could prevent the impeller tightening on shaft correctly ( to pre-load seal)
I seem to remember the hardest part was removing generator rotor to get to chain tensioner, until 'we' got a 50 ton hydraulic puller ;D ;D
I fake being smart pretty good
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'

Offline bryanj

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,027
  • CB500 Number 1000036
Re: Need some help with a GL500 Silverwing. Experts Needed!
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2007, 08:31:16 AM »
Never had a problem getting the rotor off, just used the 4 leg (each leg had a different thread) honda tool and a soft hammer, that copper washer deforms into the"splined" hole inside the impeller whilst the other side is up against the flat nut so it sealed water from going down the shaft, if you are lucky enough to get it back on exactly the same it donr seal
Semi Geriatric ex-Honda mechanic and MOT tester (UK version of annual inspection). Garage full of "projects" mostly 500/4 from pre 73 (no road tax in UK).

Remember "Its always in the last place you look" COURSE IT IS YOU STOP LOOKIN THEN!