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Offline lizard

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CB550K Alternator/Rectifier
« on: June 28, 2011, 02:03:09 PM »
I am trying to build a rectifier for this bike and having never done so, I have some questions. First the alternator has 5 wires coming from it. 3 Yellows go to the rectifier (all AC input?), 1 green which goes to the rectifier and to ground. The other is a white wire going to the voltage regulator. Anyone know what this wire does? Also the red/white wire from the rectifier goes straight into the plus side of the battery. I always assumed (silly me!) thatthe DC coming out of the rectifier would go through the voltage regulator to control the voltage going into the battery? Wrong again? Also, the rectifier which I got at Radio Shack, although advertised as a full wave three phase rectifier, only has 2 AC input posts on it. The alternator has 3 AC outputs so I assume this rectifier will not work, correct? I appreciate any answers you guys can give me with this.

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Re: CB550K Alternator/Rectifier
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 03:16:35 PM »
the white wire comes off your stator along with the 3yellows an green. I belive the white wire is what "regulates the amount of juice distributed to your electrical lights, how much did you spend on the one you got from radio shack? a 7 line sinlge state reg rec from sirius con inc is arpund 75.00
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Re: CB550K Alternator/Rectifier
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2011, 08:29:33 PM »
Thanks for the reply. The rectifier at Radio Shack was only $3 so no great loss on the purchase. I have another rectifier on order that I found the link to on this site and it states that it is 3 phase. Hope it will do the job. It was only about $20 including shipping.

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Re: CB550K Alternator/Rectifier
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 04:10:13 AM »
The rectifier and regulator on this type of alternator are separate devices, I don't know what this white wire is for. There is no direct connection required between the rectifier and regulator.
A 3 phase rectifier has 5 terminals: 3 AC ones, usually marked with a "~" symbol, and the DC output marked "+" and "-". The three yellow wires from the alternator stator coil connect to the AC terminals, "-" goes to a solid ground on the frame or an engine mounting bolt, "+" goes direct to the battery "+".
The alternator is a controlled field type. The field coil is an electromagnet; the regulator varies the field coil current to control the alternator output. The regulator usually has 3 terminals - one ground, one for the field coil, and one connected to switched ignition power. The field coil obviously needs two wires, the one not connected to the regulator is either grounded or connected to +12V depending on its type. I believe all OEM SOHC4 alternators (excepting GLs, a different story entirely) connect the other field wire to ground.
The rectifier itself creates heat when operating. It needs some sort of heat sink, the integrated module type I think you're buying will have a mounting hole to bolt it to a heat sink. You don't need a huge heat sink but you need something, many owners use a surplus store computer chip heatsink from an old computer like a 486 or early pentium.
The original regulator should work fine, but there are many options for replacements. Newer Honda electronic regulators from a DOHC4 work if you connect the other field coil wire to +12V.
The 550 alternator uses a powered field coil in the rotor, with slip rings and brushes to get power to the spinning rotor. The brushes need to be serviced occasionally and the rotor itself is a bit problematic - they are subject to a lot of vibration and acceleration force and they fail on occasion. I can't recall the exact resistance you should measure between the field coil wires but it should be checked if you're having a charging problem.