Topic: New CB750 in the works?

[eldar]

But how many people these days even care past their own bike. I mean, you get compliments on your 69. if you had the new version, would it get compliments? Would yours anymore if the new one looked identical?
I mean if they make the new one look exactly like the old one, people wont be able to tell the difference and thus most would probably end up not caring since they will probably assume it is a retro.

I think to be a success, it must capture the look yet stand on its own.

[nickjtc]

I think to be a success, it must capture the look yet stand on its own.

I agree. Each of the new 'retros' available now captures the essence of what used to be, but has a unique look of their own. Personally, as I've said before, I prefer the original of the breed (updated as necessary to make it a viable daily rider) rather than the modern clone.

[Andoo]

I have a Kawasaki w650 and people always think it’s a triumph. It nice having a new bike with reliability and old school looks. But I have much more fun on my cb750. There is that time machine factor that comes with an old bike.

[turboguzzi]

just back from a week in tokyo and considering what I saw on the streets, I am not surprised at all.
Most common bike there is the CB400 "super four", a seventies look alike albeit with DOHC, sixteen valves and water cooling but engine's got "cooling fins".
Japan has been retro crazy for quite  af ew years now and honda is spot on with this one.

TG

[lincoln]

 I get just as many "hey, nice bike" on my 05 T100 as I do on my  CB750.
The same as any other vintage bike I've owned. I dig the hell out of both for different reasons. Both of those bikes appeal to someone that like bikes of that particular style. They don't replace one another, nor do they cancel each other out. They do both make me smile when I see them parked in my garage though. Isn't that part of the real point anyway.  

[turboguzzi]

that's how the current japanese market cb400 looks like
TG

[UnCrash]

Hey

That's pretty sweet looking!

[Wheelhorse77]

There appears to be a lot of retro offerings to Japan, why not to us in the States?

I'm tired of the same old crap--crotchy or cruiser where's the in between?

[neil young]

personally if they come out with one.I'm buying it

[stevemariott]

that's how the current japanese market cb400 looks like
TG

Man oh man!  I'm halfway in the market for a new bike but like many others I don't want a chrome-plated cruiser or a plastic racer replica.  Been looking at SV650s and Ninja 650R's but even those aren't quite what I want.  That CB400 if flat out perfect.  What I would do to have one of those...

[toycollector10]

Bloody hell, I type something up on this forum and it gets misinterpreted 50 ways.

I'll start again.

I parked up next to a HD last week. The HD was covered in chrome.

I stood back and my bike looked dull. The HD was all shiney compared it to my bike.

Why?

Because my bike is old school. Cheap Honda chrome, 1969 style. The HD was all bling. Uniform. No character. Dipped in the stuff.

I'm getting new spokes. Chrome? ...   Stainless?...    No...!   

Zinc!...Why? Because it's what they were manufactured with.

They can produce their old style bikes but there is only one old style and that is 1969 OLD-STYLE!

Like I said, the design was sublime and correct for a whole lot of reasons. The 20 something generation Y designer
guru fronts up but he hasn't got a clue about the essence of the bike.

[eldar]

I think you needs some meds there toy. If you make the bike identical, which is what honda says they are doing, then where is it lacking? Following that line, even if you rebuild a 69, it is different and the parts are newer. You say you are getting zinc for spokes. Well there goes your bike. New parts oh god no! The essence will be lost. Do you see where I am going? Honda may have perfected it in 69(they didnt, that was almost done in 78 but succeeded in 83 with the v65) what is to say they can do it again? Why are you so against giving the bike a chance? I mean Honda has stated that they intend to make the bike so identical that you could park the 2 side by side and not or almost not be able to tell the difference. 

Or is it not the look at all and just the idea you are against?  It is perfectly fine to not like something but this is almost like a passion.

[Wheelhorse77]

I think you needs some meds there toy. If you make the bike identical, which is what honda says they are doing, then where is it lacking? Following that line, even if you rebuild a 69, it is different and the parts are newer. You say you are getting zinc for spokes. Well there goes your bike. New parts oh god no! The essence will be lost. Do you see where I am going? Honda may have perfected it in 69(they didnt, that was almost done in 78 but succeeded in 83 with the v65) what is to say they can do it again? Why are you so against giving the bike a chance? I mean Honda has stated that they intend to make the bike so identical that you could park the 2 side by side and not or almost not be able to tell the difference. 

Or is it not the look at all and just the idea you are against?  It is perfectly fine to not like something but this is almost like a passion.

A lot of owners of preserved 69 Camaro's went nuts when they found out they were restamping the 69 Camaro shell--- how could you tell an old from a new--- they were identical in ever aspect.

http://www.dynacornclassicbodies.com/classic.html

[eldar]

Well I look at it this way. If you are going to complain when a company is going to produce a carbon copy of the bike or car you love, then you have no right to complain that they are not producing things that are just as good.   

using the camaro for example. If I had a 69 and complained cause chevy was never putting anything out with the same spirit, when that carbon copy came out, I could no longer complain cause here is a NEW car identical to my old one in every way. So for the people that are going to complain on both aspects, I just dont get it. You can only go one way or the other.  Otherwise your only gripe is the year it was built aspect and then I suggest you build a time machine so you can go back and get the original off the showroom floor.

I just don't get it.

[tinyrobot]

Well I cant read Japanese but I went to the Japanese Honda motor site and they have pictures of many a  CB750 from 3/13/07






and a CB750F Special Edition

[rugger81]

Well I cant read Japanese but I went to the Japanese Honda motor site and they have pictures of many a  CB750 from 3/13/07

  I'd buy any one of those the second they hit stateside. 

[BobbyR]

Well I cant read Japanese but I went to the Japanese Honda motor site and they have pictures of many a  CB750 from 3/13/07

  I'd buy any one of those the second they hit stateside. 

They punked out on the 4 - 4 exhaust. I went to the Honda Dealer for some parts All the sport bikes and the Shadows look so much alike it is kind of drab. Put an updated retro Honda in there, it will catch the eye.

[B. Alec]

Wow, I'm kind of surprised at how great those look.  More like the '81/'82's, but they don't look like they're trying too hard. 

They're also producing this little number for Japan already, the XL230 -



Not too hot, but I bet it's cheap and I'd like to see that on the road here rather than a little Ninja. 

[eldar]

Well bobby, what was one of the common mods? A 4-2 exhaust. So I suppose that is why they went that direction. I will say I like those bikes but I also like the 4-4 setup. Nothing matches it in my opinion. Maybe thats one reason I always liked the Magnas. They have a 4 piper.

[martini]

I doubt that they will make a model that is identical to the 1969 k0 model in EVERY respect. Despite what some of us may think the K0 was not the perfect model. I think it was the best looking model but it certainly wasn't perfect, that's why they kept making changes. For example the carb set up on the original is a nightmare. Are they going to replicate that? I suspect that what they will do is make a model that looks very much like a K0 but has been updated with modern technology. If thats the case than an "original" will remain a highly coveted item because it will remain rare. Lets face it if Triumph or Ducati had put out EXACT replicas of there classic machines very few people would buy them. Its the fact that they have the classic look combined with modern engineering and technology that makes them so attractive to people. If Honda did put out an EXACT replica of the 69 K0 I suspect it would only be in very small numbers and appeal to a very narrow market. Personally I'd like to see them come out with something true to the original style but modernized.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

As long as it puts out 100hp and the parts are interchangable for our use I'll be happy

[BobbyR]

Well bobby, what was one of the common mods? A 4-2 exhaust. So I suppose that is why they went that direction. I will say I like those bikes but I also like the 4-4 setup. Nothing matches it in my opinion. Maybe thats one reason I always liked the Magnas. They have a 4 piper.

I think while it is a common Mod I think a lot of it is that the mufflers rot away and you could buy an aftermarket cheaper. If they are smart they will offer options like BMW does.

[eldar]

That would be a good way to go. I am sure pipes these days can be made more corrosion resistant.