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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2007, 08:06:10 PM »
1. Miami

2. New York

3. Boston

4. Los Angeles

5. Washington, D.C.

Having lived in both LA and NYC, I would agree with those rankings as well.

Here are the rest of the top 25--oh look, Cleveland made #19.  ::)

6. Phoenix

7. Chicago

8. Sacramento, Calif.

9. Philadelphia

10. San Francisco

11. Houston

12. Atlanta

13. Detroit

14. Minneapolis-St. Paul

15. Baltimore

16. Tampa, Fla.

17. San Diego

18. Cincinnati

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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2007, 09:49:21 PM »
A cousin of mine has been known to vent his anger in trafiic a time or two. Years ago he owned a Jeep that he would take mudding a lot. He reinforced the front with one of those aftermarket indestructible metal bumper guards.

One night as he was driving home on the freeway, a couple of yahoos decided to tail gate him. So Dave taps his brakes to get them to back off. This works for a second and back up on his ass they came.

So this time he jams his brakes. After they recovered, these #$%*s decided to go around him, pull in front and return the favor.

By now, my cousin had his fill of their shenanigans. When they jammed brakes on him, he calmly (well maybe not calmly) accelerated up to them, made contact with their back bumper and methodically drove them right into the ditch.

No harm no foul. They didn't roll over, they just rolled off the road.

The last thing he saw of them in his rear view was them "saluting" him.

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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2007, 10:14:23 AM »
This morning on the way to work, I too had a tailgater on my a$$.  Only this time I'm driving my cage, 5 miles over the limit, in the right-hand lane, and it's a motorcycle doing the tailgating!  All I could see in my mirror was his headlight, he must have been within 3 feet of my bumper.  And this is at 75mph on a four-lane highway, with no other traffic in sight.  He followed me like this for about 5 miles, until I had slowed down (gradually) to about 45mph, when he finally decided to go around in the passing lane. WTF!

I agree with those who believe that they need to be taught a lesson, but not on a motorcycle (either them or me, you can't be in the right if you are dead.)  When I'm driving my old 60 Ranchero and I have a cager tailgating me, I dynamite the brakes so that the tires smoke and squeal, and then nail the throttle to get out of the way.  I've found that people carrying a load in their pants tend to not tailgate.  I also carry some insurance against stoplight road-rage in a concealed holster, whether in the car or riding the bike.  Refuse to be a victim, and demand that people respect you.  If they don't respect you, they should at least fear you.

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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #53 on: July 20, 2007, 10:22:33 AM »
I just got back from an errand.  Witnessed a rearender.  Sometimes the tailgater get what's coming to him.  And this time it was a kid who looked too young to drive, much less know not to tailgate.  He was pushing a yellow light, the car in front of him wasn't.  He looked to the left, but I was there.  I hope he learned something today.
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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #54 on: July 20, 2007, 11:21:52 AM »
I just got back from an errand.  Witnessed a rearender.  Sometimes the tailgater get what's coming to him.  [snip]

True. In the US, someone who rear ends is almost always de facto guilty. I once rear ended a car, and the tale is a bit complicated, but suffice to say that it was raining, a police officer was working a traffic light (with a delayed green but no arrow) at AM rush hour, a white SUV decided to hop on the green light as I was turning left while a delivery truck unexpectedly pulled out of an alley in front of the traffic I was turning with. I accelerated slightly to avoid being T-boned but had to stop dead as the traffic stopped in front of me.

Long story short, a sergeant was on the scene within a couple of minutes. There was no way the rookie at the light was at fault (the rookie saw no white SUV), and true I had rear ended the driver in front of me. If there ever were extenuating circumstances, I had them. Although I am no stranger to traffic courts, I did not fight the ticket because I had indeed rear ended the car in front of me. I've replayed that accident many times in my head, and I can't figure out a better course of action, but I still accepted blame and the points on my license.
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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #55 on: July 20, 2007, 11:56:00 AM »
Lucky you.  I live in a suburb of Washington D.C, where it was recently reported that we made it into the top 5 cities with the rudest drivers.

I found that most of the rude drivers in Washington D.C. had Maryland plates. And most of the rude drivers in NYC had New Jersey plates. Just an observation.

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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #56 on: July 20, 2007, 06:28:12 PM »
My sister-in-law moved to Nashville with her husband after living in Portland, OR, and Chicago.  The only kind thing he had to say about Nashville was that he liked the driving - as in his home town Detroit, everyone drives FAST.  I say Nashville is like golf carting at the country club after you've survived I-285 and I-75 in Atlanta.

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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #57 on: July 20, 2007, 08:39:07 PM »
Orlando is starting to install traffic cams to catch red light runners. The lawyers are still deciding the legality of it, but
the local news rag had an interesting piece that predicted that people would jam on their brakes to avoid running the
light with the result being more rear end collisions. I would think that is still preferable to getting t-boned in the intersection.

For now they are just mailing out warnings.

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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #58 on: July 20, 2007, 10:31:19 PM »
Reading this tonight reminded me of an event 10 years ago at a do-it-yourself car wash.
There were 3 bays all with a car in them. I parked in such a position so it was obvious I would take the 1st available space.
Just as one became available some kid comes swinging around me and pulls in. I get out and politely express my disbelief!

He tells me to F7ck OFF!  I got in my truck, approached his rear bumper slowly, lined them up and PUSHED is car out of the stall ;D

While he went into the gas station to call the cops I washed my truck ;D  I was gone long before the police ever showed up.

a bit off topic, but funny non the less.  Would I do it again today............not sure ::)

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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #59 on: July 21, 2007, 04:15:55 AM »
Every 2 out of 3 nights I go to work
a co-worker (whom is always running late)
tailgates me for a mile or two
THEN waits to pass 1/2 mile before a curve
driving 70+mph with a spare tire.
Any curve will do it seems.

Now picture this, it is always dark (3-3:30am) and the oncoming
traffic is almost always tracktor trailers .

I have talked to her to no avail. A quote "I don't want to hear it!"

So I talked to the state police. They caught her once 4 weeks ago.
She claims she has 5 speeding tickets.

I don't understand how she can still be on the road.
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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #60 on: July 21, 2007, 05:01:04 AM »
The lawyers are still deciding the legality of it, but
the local news rag had an interesting piece that predicted that people would jam on their brakes to avoid running the
light with the result being more rear end collisions. I would think that is still preferable to getting t-boned in the intersection.


Jeez... has the writer of that worst-case-scenario article never heard of the yellow light?  It's perfectly possible, and rather easy, to safely stop for a red light without ever having to jam on your brakes.  I do it several times every day without being rear-ended, and in a city where it's common practice for at least four or five cars to go through the intersection after the light has turned red. 

Most cities tend to add a delay between the red light in one direction and the green light in the other, thinking this will decrease the number of accidents at light-controlled intersections.  I have to disagree.  People know there's a delay and they exploit it, and many take it too far.  I lived in a city for about a year where there was no delay at all between the red and green of cross traffic, and guess what?  When the light for your lanes of traffic turned yellow, everybody stopped!  Imagine that! ::)

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« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2007, 06:40:49 AM »
Rather than hiding, maybe the police should drive in traffic more.
I had the pleasure of driving a friend's "ex" police car every day this past week, in rush hour traffic. It was a real eye opener. It's suprising
how people react to seeing a white Ford Crown Vic with a spotlight
mounted on the driver's side and a police interceptor badge on the back. One of the coolest things is being able to change lanes whenever I want. All I gotta do is signal. Amazing how
polite they all become. No tailgating either. Of course there are still the idiots who discover you're not really a cop and speed by. But even they keep their distance approaching. I almost hate having to give the car back. I could actually control traffic speed in the work zones.
Made me laugh out loud. Sweet revenge ;D

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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2007, 07:17:47 AM »
Seaweb and 74cb750, I do love to see justice.

The lawyers are still deciding the legality of it, but
the local news rag had an interesting piece that predicted that people would jam on their brakes to avoid running the
light with the result being more rear end collisions. I would think that is still preferable to getting t-boned in the intersection.


Jeez... has the writer of that worst-case-scenario article never heard of the yellow light?  It's perfectly possible, and rather easy, to safely stop for a red light without ever having to jam on your brakes.  I do it several times every day without being rear-ended, and in a city where it's common practice for at least four or five cars to go through the intersection after the light has turned red. 

Most cities tend to add a delay between the red light in one direction and the green light in the other, thinking this will decrease the number of accidents at light-controlled intersections.  I have to disagree.  People know there's a delay and they exploit it, and many take it too far.  I lived in a city for about a year where there was no delay at all between the red and green of cross traffic, and guess what?  When the light for your lanes of traffic turned yellow, everybody stopped!  Imagine that! ::)

I want to provide a few other details in my case. The light in question (in extremely rich Lexington, Massachusetts no less) is designed for accidents. It has two lanes in both directions. None are exclusively turning lanes. There is a delayed green allowing traffic to turn left; however, rich Lexington cannot be bothered to install a light that has a green arrow and especially one that has a yellow arrow.

Worse, an officer in a booth controls the light in the AM, so I could not even use past experience to judge duration of the delayed green. The duration is completely random to folks like me who take that commute every morning. Truly, our only warning is that on-coming traffic begins to move toward us as we are turning left. This is a logical traffic pattern, no? However, in the Boston area it is hard to deny that governmental intent lies behind the dangerous traffic patterns in addition to the missing and, in some cases, absolutely incorrect signs.

I was already in the middle of the first on coming lane when an SUV received the green and started to move toward my quarter. Braking would have left me in T-bone position. As stated, I still cannot see a better option than to risk rear ending the car ahead. Nevertheless, I feel so strongly about the wrongness of rear ending that I accept the ticket and points.

Incidentally, it just dawned on me that Lexington -- which as I have implied simply oozes money -- can afford to build a very nice booth for the exclusive use of the officer who works the traffic light for no more than 10 hours each week. It is Lexington, after all, and it must blend with the historic town. Picture a nice wooden booth, with cedar siding, with a multi-peaked roof of cedar shingles, and with large multi-paned windows that face all directions; however, Lexington cannot be afford to fix a traffic light. :-( :-( :-( We must have priorities, don't we? I no longer live in Massachusetts.

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I never thought of that. We've got a stretch here that always has speed traps. I once counted 5 during a stretch of less than 60 miles. What would happen if those 5 patrol cars were moving with traffic the whole time? Would I be able to run like a bat out of the nether world between traps?
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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2007, 08:00:05 AM »
Virginia State police have been doing that for a while, sometimes with civilians at the wheel.  What erks me is that they've replaced police presence in residential areas with speed bumps.  This brings other emergency vehicles to a complete stop at each and every one.  Even something as small as an ambulance has to stop and creep over them.  They have yet to place one between my house and thefirehouse, but if they try....  And to prove how stoopid some people are, civic associations have voted what method they want in their neiborhoods, and they chose bumps over 4-way stops.  I guess they want ambulances to stop on the way to their house, but they don't want to stop on their way to work.

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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2007, 07:23:27 PM »
I had this woman riding on my bumper for 5 miles on the way home from work one time. A fire truck was coming the other way so I slowed down and got off to the side, and this b**** who is too busy talking on her phone locks up her brakes and goes sideways, and winds up inches from my bumper. As she gets back on the road and gets out of there I lose it and scream that lovely c word that they love so much out the window at her. I know she heard it too because she was looking right at me. By the time I got going again, she was long gone.

Had another one a few weeks ago that I kept tapping the brakes for, Finally he decided he had enough, passed me on a curve, and darted between me and the car in front of me, and tried to do the same thing... but failed at it because I'm not stupid enough to get that close, after we told eachother they're #1, he passed the other car and was out of there. a few miles up the road I saw the blue lights, ans sure enough, a state trooper had got him, as I was going by I loudly said HA HA!
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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #65 on: July 22, 2007, 06:23:52 AM »
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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #66 on: July 22, 2007, 10:29:56 AM »
I heard this the othere day.
"Anyone going slower than me is an Idiot, and anyone going faster than me is a Maniac!

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« Reply #67 on: July 22, 2007, 12:51:26 PM »
I heard this the other day.
"Anyone going slower than me is an Idiot, and anyone going faster than me is a Maniac!

Sounds like a variant of of the "Me Generation" mantra. ;) ;D
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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2007, 05:05:04 PM »
I heard this the other day.
"Anyone going slower than me is an Idiot, and anyone going faster than me is a Maniac!
Sounds like a variant of of the "Me Generation" mantra. ;) ;D

Actually, it comes from that eminent philosopher, Mr. George Carlin. ;-)

I had a tailgater today, and I was pondering on whyizzut that fools actually tailgate:

  A) Idiocity (new word: see above)
  B) Asininity (lack of concern for others)
  C) Jackassocity (desire to bully others)

I'm working on a theory that states that each tailgater possesses some non-zero amount of "A", while potentially possessing varying proportions of "B" and "C". Note that "A" is a necessary condition to make a tailgater. "A" may also be a sufficient condition to create a tailgater; however, elements "A", "B" and "C" are not mutually exclusive. Therefore, in the extreme, we have nitwits who are 100% "A", 100% "B" and 100% "C". Some of our folks have described such cretins.

We can express this formally, where "T" equals tailgater:

"A" & ("B" V "C" V 1) --> "T"

We can also express it as, "All tailgaters are idiots."
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« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2007, 07:17:16 PM »
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« Reply #70 on: July 23, 2007, 08:36:40 AM »
Had another one a few weeks ago that I kept tapping the brakes for, Finally he decided he had enough, passed me on a curve, and darted between me and the car in front of me, and tried to do the same thing... but failed at it because I'm not stupid enough to get that close, after we told eachother they're #1, he passed the other car and was out of there. a few miles up the road I saw the blue lights, ans sure enough, a state trooper had got him, as I was going by I loudly said HA HA!

I would have taken time out of my busy day to stop and politely tell the trooper exactly what he had done.  Reckless driving puts 6 points on your license in TN!  ;)
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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #71 on: July 23, 2007, 10:04:04 AM »
Rather than hiding, maybe the police should drive in traffic more.
I had the pleasure of driving a friend's "ex" police car every day this past week, in rush hour traffic. It was a real eye opener. It's suprising
how people react to seeing a white Ford Crown Vic with a spotlight
mounted on the driver's side and a police interceptor badge on the back. One of the coolest things is being able to change lanes whenever I want. All I gotta do is signal. Amazing how
polite they all become. No tailgating either. Of course there are still the idiots who discover you're not really a cop and speed by. But even they keep their distance approaching. I almost hate having to give the car back. I could actually control traffic speed in the work zones.
Made me laugh out loud. Sweet revenge ;D

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Re: I "lost it" today with a tailgater
« Reply #72 on: July 23, 2007, 02:03:43 PM »

 Up here for a while in the 80's the town police used dark blueish grey plymouth volares, my girlfriend had one that was the same color, and we used to pull up near the curve on the highway north of grant and set a bucket on the roof just to watch people come whipping down the road at 60-70mph and all of a sudden drop to 45mph as soon as they saw us. it was plenty of fun at the time. Had a couple of people blame us for getting tickets when they thought it was us and kept right on cruising when it was the real cop sitting there.

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