Topic: Forum Rules - your thoughts

[xtalon]

I nominate a rule that no pictures should be posted that can get me fired from work.

Yes it's a selfish rule I know but I work in a high-tech company out of the HR Dept.  Bad pictures can get me fired, in hot water, or even worse, get this site banned from our internal networks by SurfControl.

Yikes!

Maybe you should transfer to the IT Department, then you can be in control of all that.   

--xTalon

[mennedy]

The success of this site derives from the "culture" it has created. Rules aside, anything that threatens that culture is out of line. I enjoyed the thread in question but it had no place here and threatened the culture. I have enjoyed and valued this forum for at least four years now.There should be no appeal, criticism or complaint; just quietly go someplace else and come back here when you need motorcycle help, some light discussion or great jokes. The mods do a great job and have been very tolerant if not overly so. As a member, I am a guest in someone else's house and will conduct myself appropriately, as should we all.

Management is not a democracy!

Marty

[upperlake04]

Well said Marty and I agree 100%

[BobbyR]

The success of this site derives from the "culture" it has created. Rules aside, anything that threatens that culture is out of line. I enjoyed the thread in question but it had no place here and threatened the culture. I have enjoyed and valued this forum for at least four years now.There should be no appeal, criticism or complaint; just quietly go someplace else and come back here when you need motorcycle help, some light discussion or great jokes. The mods do a great job and have been very tolerant if not overly so. As a member, I am a guest in someone else's house and will conduct myself appropriately, as should we all.

Management is not a democracy!

Marty

Does she look threatening to u Marty

[my78k]

I could handle being threatened by her!

Dennis

[ElCheapo]

Seeing that I have been one of the recipients of forum rules enforcement I feel it is right for me to speak up now that this thread has run a bit. Plain and simple the rules work when common sense does not. I would not omit even one of those rules. Some are there because common sense failed so instruction was needed. I know because I have been there on the receive end and at times I felt it was unfair. But the fact was I was doing stuff that I agreed that I would not do here. So some of the poundings from the mods were warranted.

No one likes being called on their stuff - if you know what I mean. But it has to happen from time to time.

Fact is I would not take a moderator position on any board that I participate in right now. Not one. I can not believe the tolerance for overall stupidity that you guys have sometimes. I am sure there are holes in the wall next to your computer.   I know there was by mine.

When scorned we are quick to say "the heck with that board- I'LL MAKE MY OWN" LOL Yea right, the work that goes into it is just staggering and no matter how you change up things to make things more secure, cleaner, smoother, rules and the list goes on - SOMEONE WILL COMPLAIN. They always do. You just have to go for the greater good. Just try and start a board and see what happens. I am sure within a short period of time you will feel like you will have to write a list 3 pages long of rules, or should I say "Stupid things people have pulled here"  

I personally have no complaints. And for ref Glenn when you make visable changes in the board I get over it quickly and just continue.   I do not do anything in particular to keep this board running, so I have surrendered my right to B%tch. I figure you have that right when you put work into something that is not working, and it continues to not work.

I am always a guest here and am quickly reminded of it when I forget.

ARE YOU THREATENING ME 

[mennedy]

Bobby,

That is terrifying! I have high blood pressure, atrial tacacardia, and .......

Oh, you meant just the picture?!!

[dusterdude]

hello tom,its good to hear from you again.

[333]

I do have heart disease in my family- a girl like that could kill me!

But what a way to go!

[BobbyR]

Sorry to hear about all the heart disease 333. Let's give you a stress test.

[333]

Where's my nitro pills?

[nickjtc]

Cripes. If a person popped off like that they wouldn't be about to get the coffin lid down.

What an interesting discussion; and even more interesting it has lasted so many pages.

[333]

It's not what I'm seeing that is the problem, it's what I'm imagining!

[BobbyR]

I guess I will stop now. I don't need a nastygram from Glenn for hijacking his thread.

[mikedialect]

ok, ok.... I've been apart of making websites, online communities etc for about 10 years. I started getting into computer stuff when I was about 12 and started learning more shortly after and I've seen the wild west of the net be tamed and knew where to look for the Wild west after it stopped. For a long time I felt like censorship on the net was the end of it and I still believe that, but there are circumstances when censorship makes sense. A lot of this discussion was born out of the boob thread. A thread TITLED "BOOB THREAD". I mean, if you went there you knew what to expect. I saw it and I though, "boobs- I like those!" So, I clicked and contributed a little bit. I knew what I was getting into.

I do understand the other side of the coin, though. You click on a thread about tuning your baby gorilla, etc and you see some naked girls... you could get into some trouble at work! You had no idea that picture was going to be there. You're reading about carb tuning and BAM your boss walks by and sees a naked girl. You're in the boss' office the next morning hearing all about sexual harassment or cleaning out your desk. I understand that concern.

However, this was not a GLOBAL issue. It was one thread. I will admit that some of the pics stepped over the line showing some things that you definitely shouldn't see on a bike forum. A nipple of two? no big deal. Maybe even just some lightly dressed ladies covering up the little bits. I don't see a problem with that ina  thread clearly stating what it is. Then again, this isn't MY forum. Ya'll have your rules, but I really don't think you had a BIG problem. It was isolated and no one would have got into trouble with out knowing what they were getting into.

[UnCrash]

Maybe you should transfer to the IT Department, then you can be in control of all that.   

--xTalon

Ha xTalon,

They offshored my IT department to Cebu, Penang and Singapore.  I'm thankful that I'm in the training dept!

[Gordon]

I don't see a problem with that ina  thread clearly stating what it is. Then again, this isn't MY forum. Ya'll have your rules, but I really don't think you had a BIG problem.

That's exactly the point.  There was no BIG problem until some folks started in with the #$%*ing and moaning about such a trivial thing after the fact. 

[mikedialect]

I don't see a problem with that ina  thread clearly stating what it is. Then again, this isn't MY forum. Ya'll have your rules, but I really don't think you had a BIG problem.

That's exactly the point.  There was no BIG problem until some folks started in with the #$%*ing and moaning about such a trivial thing after the fact. 

*nods* I don't want to start anything and I almost regretted saying peep after the fact because it's not like I've been here for years or really had all that much to contribute. Apparently some people liked that thread and that's why they were #$%*ing. I definitely wouldn't #$%* about it. I see both sides of the coin. Either the group as a whole doesn't have a problem with it or they do. I guess if it was a BIG problem after the fact maybe it wasn't so trivial to them and the fuax paux was in deleting the thread. Not my place to determine it, really. I have a terrible habit of giving food for thought to a room full or full people

But I should really keep my mouth shut! All of my experiences with everyone here has been nothing but positive and I'm glad to obey whatever rules the group determines to keep having good interaction with folks who are interested in the same old junk I am

[mennedy]

Clarification.

I liked the thread. Very much.  I miss that thread. It was good, pretty clean fun. The girls were drop dead neighborhood beautiful and fabulously photograped. But, I also see where the decision to stop it comes from and I respect that too.

I am not #$%*ing either way.

That thread was great fun while it lasted but, as someone remarked earlier, it was inevitable it would fall.

I am gettin cremated, so the coffin lid is not an issue.

That "boost post" thread must be next on the hit list. Waitin' for all those "Great Grand Masters" to come crashin' back down to Buck Novice!!! I put something on it once way back and it keeps popping every time I log on. Frustrating.

Marty

[SteveD CB500F]

I put something on it once way back and it keeps popping every time I log on. Frustrating.

Me too.

Now it comes up every time I hit "Show new replies to your posts" (first stop every morning)

You could always go back and delete the post.

[xtalon]

Maybe you should transfer to the IT Department, then you can be in control of all that.   

--xTalon

Ha xTalon,

They offshored my IT department to Cebu, Penang and Singapore.  I'm thankful that I'm in the training dept!

Ouch!  I feel  your pain brother.  I'm glad you still have a job.

I hope you also realize I was just joking.  I thought I put a smiley face, but maybe I forgot.   

--xTalon

[ElCheapo]

hello tom,its good to hear from you again.

Thanks, I am like mold. I grow on ya and just wont go away.

[ElCheapo]

Sorry to hear about all the heart disease 333. Let's give you a stress test.

Too skinny  , when I want steak - I WANT STEAK  . Stick and bones girls have no staying power 

[ofreen]

Too skinny  , when I want steak - I WANT STEAK  . Stick and bones girls have no staying power 

I don't know.  I reckon the one pictured below could run anyone of us into the ground at will.  But I am willing to test your statement.


As far as the rules go, I think they are good rules.  The problem, as usual, is with how they are applied.  (I was gone riding for 2 weeks, so missed the controversy.  The gist of it from what I got was that the boob thread was axed without warning by one of the moderators.  Somebody can set me straight if that isn't true.) 

Here are a couple of examples about how rules can be applied.

I watched the boob thread and posted in it a couple of times.  I saw some posts that pushed the limit (as I imagined the limit to be.)   It seemed to me that rule #4 covers that in that an offensive post could be deleted without getting rid of the entire thread.

Another example, a thread contained some inappropriate posts attacking an individual, but also a useful discussion of riding techniques.  Rather than deleting the inappropriate posts, the entire thread was locked, stifling an otherwise good discussion.  Kind of like throwing the baby went out with the bathwater.  (Feel free to use the analogy if you like it. )

The point is, rule #4 can be used to delete inappropriate posts without locking or deleting entire threads that a lot of people are enjoying or those that contain useful discussion.   Just my 2 cents, and as usual, anybody is free to point out where I am full of it.

[BobbyR]

I am sure she could run me to ground, actaully she would put me in the ground. Perfect girl.