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CB500T right hand controls. Please help!
« on: August 12, 2007, 06:06:54 PM »
Im trying to get my starter button to work for me. My right hand controls have 5 wires going to my right control and no idea what to do with them.

2 Black
Yellow/red
black/red
black/ white

So far I know that one of my black wires is a switch 12v which is the kill switch to the black/ white wire. That accounts for two of my wires.

The Red/ yellow is for the starter and that appears to just need to be grounded to kick over the starter according to the diagram. But it does nothing.

That leaves me with a black wire and a black/ red wire. Neither of which are on the wiring diagram. What am I missing?

Thanks!
-Aaron




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Re: CB500T right hand controls. Please help!
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2007, 06:24:11 AM »
You maybe have either the wrong, or a late switch not sure as i never worked on a US 500T
The second black puts power, via the start button when it ISNT BEING PUSHED, to the black/red which connects inside the headlamp to the LH switch dip part then to the appropriate headlamp filament.
When you push the button the lights go out and you put 12 volt onto the yellow/red to the starter solenoid the other side of which is "grounded"

This is because the US wanted headlamps on all the time!
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Re: CB500T right hand controls. Please help!
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2007, 08:08:20 AM »
First: Clymer/Haynes wiring diagrams are complete garbage, always missing things and usually with glaring mistakes. Example - if you look at the lighting switch on your diagram, you can see that it adds an alternator coil to provide extra power when the headlight is on. The diagram shows it connected with lights off and on low beam, disconnected in high beam. This is obviously very wrong.
I think you have the wrong handlebar switch unit for your bike. Alternately, your wiring is completely different from the diagram.
If it's the wrong switch, you can still use it. Just connect the extra black wire to a green in the harness (I would put some green electrical tape or shrink wrap on the black wire to identify it), and connect the yellow/red wire to your solenoid wire in the harness. The yellow/black can just be left hanging. You might end up with same-sex bullets to try to connect though, Honda generally avoids having power on male bullets and the solenoid wire, if the diagram is right and the solenoid is powered directly and grounds through the switch, should have a female... the handlebar switch for switched "start" power to the headlight and solenoid should have female bullets on those wires too.
You should check the small gauge primary wiring at the solenoid relay for the starter, if it has a black and red/yellow wire then it's as shown in your diagram. If it has a green and red/yellow wire then it wants power from the start switch, not ground.
Note that Clymer/Haynes diagrams always leave out the weird spliced wire I talked about in your other post. If you have a brown/blue wire not connected in the main harness connection jumble where the handlebar switches connect, you have to jumper it to a harness black wire for your tail light and probably instrument lights to work. Since you may have non-original handlebar switch clusters this is a definite possibility: even current new OEM clusters for bikes that need the spliced jumper wire do not include it, the original model-specific parts have been superceded with generic ones.