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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #150 on: January 01, 2021, 08:21:51 AM »
There should be plenty of cheap OEM masters to make this work.
I tend to not want any of those "universal" or aftermarket masters on my stuff.

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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #151 on: April 03, 2025, 10:45:05 AM »
Reviving this old topic -

This is mostly about FRONT brakes - but I was wondering if anyone had a part number for the rear brake?

My rear bake on my 77F is in shambles from the previous owner.

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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #152 on: April 03, 2025, 10:52:01 AM »
Reviving this old topic -

This is mostly about FRONT brakes - but I was wondering if anyone had a part number for the rear brake?

It was buried in the first post:
"Here is what you need for the REAR
143578-001 Bracket
143471-001 Caliper
Again you will need the sliders and bolts to attach the caliper to the bracket.

This again is a relatively simple bolt on upgrade
The bracket takes the place of the stock SOHC bracket"
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #153 on: April 03, 2025, 10:55:49 AM »
Reviving this old topic -

This is mostly about FRONT brakes - but I was wondering if anyone had a part number for the rear brake?

It was buried in the first post:
"Here is what you need for the REAR
143578-001 Bracket
143471-001 Caliper
Again you will need the sliders and bolts to attach the caliper to the bracket.

This again is a relatively simple bolt on upgrade
The bracket takes the place of the stock SOHC bracket"

Scottly - when I "google" those part numbers I get nothing. Sorry for being dense... do they pull up anything of value for you?

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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #154 on: April 03, 2025, 11:10:33 AM »
No, I couldn't find anything for the bracket on CMS.
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #155 on: April 03, 2025, 11:28:19 AM »
sent this as a PM to someone but then realized it is probably valuable information to this thread:


To do the twin caliper on the rear you need the caliper bracket (that goes around the axle), the caliper and the banjo bolts. I recommend the torque arm too but there is a VFR inteceptor aluminum arm that some of the DOHC guys like to swap out for because it looks trick (I forget the year VFR - 1984 I think, it is the one with a clevis at both ends). Again I recommend finding one off a 1981-82 750F but I will post the part number and bikes that use it below. Unfortunatly it is a much smaller number of bikes. Honda has two diferent part numbers for the bracket itself - I assume this one: 43110-445-632 is a revision number in the part but I don't know what the changes are - it shouldn't make a difference. I can tell you that Honda used the same rear axle diameter all the way to the first generation cbr 1000s. I have a 1986 VFR 4.5 inch rear wheel on the back of my 1978 cb750F with the VFR caliper and bracket (and a GS1100 swingarm) and I use the stock 1978 cb750F axle (and most of the spacers). Just to be on the safe side - I would be ready to shell out for rear axle spacers off the same bike. The DOHC uses an offset swingarm and thus has different length spacers. IIRC the bracket is the correct thickness to replace the stock 77-78 one but just in case be prepared to make your own or play mix and match with the SOHC and DOHC rear axle spacers.

Assemblies where 43100-445-634 or 43110-445-632 is used

1981 CB750F A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1981 CB900F A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1981 CBX A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1982 CB750F A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1982 CB900F A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1982 CBX A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER


It is a common misconception that the rear caliper is the same as the fronts (this might be true for the single puck stock 77-78 calipers). However here is the parts cross over for the rear caliper:

Assemblies where 43101-MA3-006 is used
1981 CB750F A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1981 CB900F A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1981 CBX A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1982 CB750F A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1982 CB900F A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1982 CBX A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1982 FT500 A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1983 CB1100F A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1983 FT500 A - REAR BRAKE CALIPER

In all honesty though, I have only done 1 rear conversion. I did it because I wanted the calipers to match on the bike, and the rear had gone bad anyway and service parts for the duals are surprisingly cheaper than the single pucks. I didn't feel it added anything to the riding experience, the rear is so undertaxed anyway that the single puck was more than up to the job. It is really so they match and look cool, esp when you paint them gold and then letter the raised honda badge in red (or paint them red and letter honda in white like brembos). If they are just going to be black, it won't stand out enough for people to notice the single puck in the rear and most bikes have different rear calipers than the fronts anyway.
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #156 on: April 03, 2025, 02:45:28 PM »
Don't really know what you are looking for but I first found rear brake stuff for my 75 F at SiriusConInc.com. Rebuild kits
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #158 on: April 06, 2025, 08:21:52 PM »
or....if you've got fork legs that have the mounts for these brackets/calipers then why not go for something way way better than rubbish 70's technology, admittedly in themselves far better than earlier 750 swinging single piston calipers.

the only limitation to what you can use is the space between the fork leg and the spokes of the wire wheel. I've managed to get a proper 4 piston Braking brand caliper onto mine ( using CB900 fork lowers ), its a super motard racing one so it works well with the spoked wheel. it has required me to make one tiny little bracket about 4cm long ( or inch and a half in measurements of the dead ) to space the trailing edge of the caliper out from the disc ( the VFR800 one mentioned below )

and if originality isn't a worry , which if you're upgrading the brakes i'm guessing it isn't then a VFR800 disc will fit with minimal work then you get the best of both worlds, a thinner, lighter, bigger disc thats vented with a caliper that was designed to actually stop a bike rather than suggesting a marginal impediment to forward motion

I've done the conversion before using a CX650E caliper and the difference was remarkable.

i used the same approach on my Vmax, got rid of the stock (heavy, vented, small ) discs and absolutely rubbish twin opposed piston calipers and replaced them with 310mm R1 discs and hayabusa 6 piston calipers. i no longer fear imminent death on that bike ( unless i press my luck in the forward motion on a loose surface kind of thing )
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #159 on: April 06, 2025, 08:45:57 PM »
sounds great Spotty....but this thread is all about totally bolt on stuff

Love to see all the details of your brake swap in another thread.
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #160 on: April 06, 2025, 10:03:39 PM »
or....if you've got fork legs that have the mounts for these brackets/calipers then why not go for something way way better than rubbish 70's technology, admittedly in themselves far better than earlier 750 swinging single piston calipers.

The twin piston calipers were introduced in 1982, and besides being better, are readily available, relatively inexpensive, and have pads available with HH friction ratings. The 32mm variety has the equivalent surface area of a single 45mm piston. My current setup uses one with EBC HH pads, a stock 14mm MC, and a 320mm Ducati rotor adapted to a Morris mag, which is interchangeable with a stock spoke wheel. It works as well or better than any previous system, including dual cast iron rotors with K1 38mm calipers, and weighs less than half as much. ;D 
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #161 on: April 07, 2025, 03:17:27 PM »
sounds great Spotty....but this thread is all about totally bolt on stuff

Love to see all the details of your brake swap in another thread.

sorry about that, i shall be more attentive in future
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #162 on: April 07, 2025, 03:28:53 PM »
or....if you've got fork legs that have the mounts for these brackets/calipers then why not go for something way way better than rubbish 70's technology, admittedly in themselves far better than earlier 750 swinging single piston calipers.

The twin piston calipers were introduced in 1982, and besides being better, are readily available, relatively inexpensive, and have pads available with HH friction ratings. The 32mm variety has the equivalent surface area of a single 45mm piston. My current setup uses one with EBC HH pads, a stock 14mm MC, and a 320mm Ducati rotor adapted to a Morris mag, which is interchangeable with a stock spoke wheel. It works as well or better than any previous system, including dual cast iron rotors with K1 38mm calipers, and weighs less than half as much. ;D

thats great, now i've got to find a ducati disc....do you know what model it was from ? i'm using invader wheels so the front should have stock mounting holes and i'll probably use a gsxr 4 piston with a bracket
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #163 on: April 10, 2025, 12:07:37 AM »
 I bolted the 32mm dual piston calipers from a 1985 V65 to my 78 GL1000 using brackets from a 1985 VT1100. I'd think the same mix would fit a 750 F2. I used mostly information from this site. The bracket to avoid is the left side from a bike with anti-dive forks.
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #164 on: April 10, 2025, 12:32:26 AM »
I bolted the 32mm dual piston calipers from a 1985 V65 to my 78 GL1000 using brackets from a 1985 VT1100. I'd think the same mix would fit a 750 F2. I used mostly information from this site. The bracket to avoid is the left side from a bike with anti-dive forks.

Weren't the anti-dive forks on all after 83? So what bracket do you use in place of the left side?
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #165 on: April 10, 2025, 09:54:48 AM »
I bolted the 32mm dual piston calipers from a 1985 V65 to my 78 GL1000 using brackets from a 1985 VT1100. I'd think the same mix would fit a 750 F2. I used mostly information from this site. The bracket to avoid is the left side from a bike with anti-dive forks.
Don, IIRC the mounting lugs on the GL fork legs have a 100mm center-to-center spacing, while the F2/F3 750 legs have a smaller spacing, like maybe 75mm??? For what it's worth, the '82-83 FT Ascot 500 had a left side bracket with 100mm spacing.
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #166 on: April 10, 2025, 10:03:07 AM »

thats great, now i've got to find a ducati disc....do you know what model it was from ? i'm using invader wheels so the front should have stock mounting holes and i'll probably use a gsxr 4 piston with a bracket
Sorry, I don't know what model the Duc disc came from. The Duc uses the same 6 hole bolt circle as Honda, but the center hole is 3mm larger than the Honda (Yamaha discs are the same as the Duc). Also, the Duc is almost flat, with very little offset, so I made spacers with a lip to match the center hole as well as adjust the offset.
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #167 on: April 10, 2025, 03:32:28 PM »

thats great, now i've got to find a ducati disc....do you know what model it was from ? i'm using invader wheels so the front should have stock mounting holes and i'll probably use a gsxr 4 piston with a bracket
Sorry, I don't know what model the Duc disc came from. The Duc uses the same 6 hole bolt circle as Honda, but the center hole is 3mm larger than the Honda (Yamaha discs are the same as the Duc). Also, the Duc is almost flat, with very little offset, so I made spacers with a lip to match the center hole as well as adjust the offset.

i'm taking the wheel to a local seller of the discs tomorrow so i'll have a look then, maybe i can ask terry very nicely if he can show me how to do the spacer on my lathe ( i still have Learner plates on it )
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #168 on: April 10, 2025, 04:07:00 PM »
Spotty, the disc came from a 1990 Ducati 750 Sport. ;D
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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #169 on: April 10, 2025, 05:00:50 PM »
Spotty, the disc came from a 1990 Ducati 750 Sport. ;D

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Re: Twin Piston Brake Upgrade Using OEM parts For CB750F
« Reply #170 on: June 15, 2025, 06:01:04 PM »
I bolted the 32mm dual piston calipers from a 1985 V65 to my 78 GL1000 using brackets from a 1985 VT1100. I'd think the same mix would fit a 750 F2. I used mostly information from this site. The bracket to avoid is the left side from a bike with anti-dive forks.

Weren't the anti-dive forks on all after 83? So what bracket do you use in place of the left side?
I used 85 VT1100 brackets on the GL, the 85 V65 sabre had 32mm dual piston calipers and anti dive, the 85 VT1100 had 30mm dual piston calipers and no left side anti-dive. Scott is correct,  the GL has 100 mm spacing so my bracket info won't help. Sorry.
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