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please, i need help!!!
« on: July 10, 2005, 12:05:47 PM »
ok, i have a cb 360, wich is a sohc 2, not 4, but i figured someone might be able to help. on the left side sprocket cover, i think i am missing a piece for the clutch rod activator.; i have seen diagrams and they told me i am missing a bearing retainer. is that bad? can i just use some ball bearings from the store? also, is it hard to patch a rear tire tube?

my other problem is the carbs over flow if the bike is leaning one wat or the other, but not if it is strait up. should i adjust the floats a little better?
lasst problem. the right cylinder back fires through the carb. is this a timing problem, or is the valve messed up?

well, i think that is it

thanks in advance for any help
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Re: please, i need help!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2005, 05:15:23 PM »
Hey MK0094 -
hate to always point to friggin e-bay for everything, but I think someone is selling the
part you need right now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35595&item=4544932346&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

let us know how it goes!!

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Re: please, i need help!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2005, 07:51:37 PM »

With respect to the clutch retainer, you can either pick up that part from eBay or call up servicehonda.com and order a new one -- if that part is anything like the one on the CB450, it should not cost very much. The ball bearing may be a standard metric size, but it is not clear from the parts fiche WHAT size it is.   As for patching the rear tube, you can spend $8 on a vulcanized rubber patch kit and pray for the best, or you can spend $10 on a new tube and save your prayers for the Browns.  I strongly recommend the latter.

The leaking carbs could be down to mis-adjusted floats or bad float valves, or both.  If the bike has a good number of miles on it, and you intend to ride it for a while (or at least until the starter clutch, the camchain, or both eventually explode) I recommend a rebuild.  Once you have that done, you can get the valves/timing set correctly, and the bike should not backfire anymore.  I had a similar problem with my CB450 and it was down to bad timing (that, and the fact that the mixture was way too rich).  Hope this helps.

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Re: please, i need help!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2005, 08:08:42 PM »
Turn the gas off!
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Re: please, i need help!!!
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2005, 08:16:36 PM »
Okay, let's go down your list one at a time:

Clutch Actuator - If you are missing the clutch ball retainer, you will need to find one from a parts bike or through Honda.  I wouldn't say that it's bad, but it won't operate properly without it.  Sticking a few loose balls in there won't work, so don't waste your time.  Be sure that you also have the single #10 ball that fits in the back of the clutch lifter.  It is often lost or overlooked when the assembly is taken apart.

Tube - Frankly, I can't understand why you would want to patch a tube and risk your life for the sake of $10.  Buy a new one - they're a lot cheaper than a hospital stay.  While you're at it make sure that the tire is not damaged.  If it is, buy a new one of those, too.

Carbs. - Does the fuel leak out of the overflow tubes or the sides of the bowels?  Either way it sounds like you should check the float adjustment first, but you may have additional gasket-related troubles.  If fuel is overflowing, it's possible that it's making it's way into the crankcase.  Check your oil to see if it has an odor of gasoline.  If it does, change it.  Gas will always win over oil and you will destroy the engine running it that way.  Make sure to shut the fuel petcock off whenever the bike is not in use.  These bikes are known for fuel leaking into the crankcase, particularly if the overflow tubes are clogged - as often they are.

Backfiring - It could be a timing issue or it also could be a valve issue.  Precise ignition timing is critical on these engines, so start there.  Make sure you follow the instructions found in the owner's manual or shop manual step by step and word for word.  Also, make sure that the points are clean and not burnt or pitted.  If they are, dress or replace them.  If that doesn't solve the backfiring problem, run a compression test.  Lastly, be sure to adjust the cam chain tension as per the instructions in the manual.

Take a look at the posts in the "Non-SOHC" section of this forum.  There are many strings that deal with Honda 360 twins.

Best of luck,
« Last Edit: July 11, 2005, 08:22:50 PM by Bill Vaughan »
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Re: please, i need help!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2005, 02:26:22 PM »
thanks everyone, it was a lot of help.

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