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ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« on: August 23, 2007, 12:58:59 PM »
Ought to make a poll of this one,

Is the War on Drugs Necessary?



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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2007, 02:30:35 PM »



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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2007, 02:45:48 PM »
Cant you tell there is a war on! ;D

Should be a war on poor education. :-X

Give people knowledge and the rest will work itself out. 8)

No more wars, then we get down to the real issues. ;)
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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 03:18:47 PM »
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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2007, 03:51:00 PM »
Well, in a war you shoot to kill,
seems to me the big dealers are never in the crosshairs
just the little guys.

So, does this mean Raul is going to be involved in this "war"?
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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2007, 09:02:08 PM »
Thats a funny video. I forgot about those guys.

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Is the War on Drugs Necessary?
NO

The drugists that are too involved and too twacked out will eliminate themselves in time. That way they wont cost us $23,000.00 per person per year in prison.

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Well, in a war you shoot to kill, seems to me the big dealers are never in the crosshairs just the little guys.
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I welcome the war against the ones who come to take them away from me!

Thats a bold and stupid statement, but I dont deal, steal, or grow, so F**KEM...

Thats my simple opinion +2 bong rips for the road... 8)
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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2007, 01:08:03 AM »
Heres how well the war on drugs and alcohol is going...

Lindsey Lohan - Pleads no contest to 2 counts of DUI's. Also pleads no contest to 2 counts of being under the influence of a controlled substance, cocaine, and reckless driving. She escaped more serious charges of felony coke possession because she was found with such small amounts of the drug. On one drunk/drive she smashed her mercedes into a curb in beverly hills and the other drunk/drive came 2 months later. Both times, BOTH TIMES, she was also under the influence and in possession of coke. Lohan was initially sentenced to four days in jail, but the Beverly Hills Court judge reduced the term to two days. And now given credit for her heading to rehab, they drop the sentence down to one day. ONE DAY! Ive spent longer than that just waiting to be booked and tossed in a cell. SH!T. The deputy da in her case said, "She's getting what everyone else would get,". HORSE HOCKEY

And that other hooker?, Nicole Ritchie, gets caught driving under the influence of drugs. She was convicted in 2003 for driving/drunk then arrested again in 2006 after smoking pot and taking vicodin then taking a drive on a Burbank freeway THE WRONG WAY. The CHP found her parked in the car pool lane. Heres the kick in the nuts... She checks into the jail in LA at 3:15pm. She was released at 4:37pm. This was supposed to be a 4 day cruise for driving while under drugs. Instead she did 82 FREAKIN MINUTES. Thats barely enough for her to include the experience in her autobiography to bring in another 10 million dollars. I'd like to roll up a supermarket tabloid and smak these people till they choke on their own teeth. Growl.

I'd like to see either of these girls come to the midwest without the photographers and cameras. Then they can understand what a couple convictions can truly do to stunt your enthusiasm towards life.

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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2007, 06:50:34 AM »
Is it necessary? No, but the Gov has to look like their doing something to solve curb this problem.

I know lets throw a buch of maony at it, that will make it go away. :-\
Like we don't have other pressing probs.  It's BS!

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2007, 06:57:39 AM »
I think many drugs should be legalized and regulated/taxed.
I also think it should be legal to leave spring-traps to really hurt/maim/kill crack addicts who break into your house, and shoot drunk drivers after the second offense.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2007, 07:23:57 AM »
Funny this topic comes up now; here's an article in the local paper where I live that was published 2 days ago:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=650482

Now, for those of you not familiar with Milwaukee, Wisconsin geography check this out.  The doctor lives in a community called Oconomowoc which is about 40 miles away from his office.  Oconomowoc is a lovely middle to upper class community whereas his office location is in an area that is middle to lower class.  Makes you think, doesn't it?  I work in mental health and I see it from both ends (the people struggling with addictions, and a few doctors who appear to be less scrupulous in their prescribing habits).  It's not pretty, and unfortunately there is not an easy solution given the complexity of addiction and its effects on the human body both physiologically and mentally.  I agree with Uncle Ernie that you should be able to protect yourself/family/house from intruders/crack addicts. 

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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2007, 07:46:06 AM »
The war on drugs has been an abysmal failure. The United States has the largest prison population in the world and most are drug related offences. The rate of illicit drug use has not substantially decreased as a result of the "war". I'm with Uncle E. on this one, legalize and regulate the sale of most of these drugs. Take the criminal element right out of it. The gov't can tax it and with that money educate people about the real dangers of drug use and addiction - the same way it does with the legal drugs booze and tobacco. Will there continue to be drug addicts? Of course, same way there is alcoholics, but at least you get the criminal element out of the equation and you stop putting people in jail for selling pot.

Unfortunately, the above is only a pipe dream. The war on drugs is a huge industry now and it will not be easy to dismantle, too many self interests to protect.

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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2007, 08:55:40 AM »
First, we need a better definition of 'drugs'.

If it is a plant, that one can grow oneself and consume in it's unaltered form, it should be legal.
Smoke your weed, chew a mushroom or a coca leaf, make tea out of your poppies, whatever.
As long as your actions do not harm others - what's the problem.
It's a war on DRUGS, not PLANTS, right?

How do you regulate/tax a plant? Not sure about that one. Sell doobies by the pack? (Would you like the Maryboros or the Cannabis Lights?)

The chemical crap that some favor - that is another thing altogether.
Those substances and their users should be exterminated.
Take all the junkies, crackheads, and dummydusters and put them on an island somewhere.
(think 'Escape From New York'.. once you go in - you don't come out)
Adak might not be big enough, but it's remoteness has a certain appeal.

Why do drunks get a free ride?
If someone is spun on meth and beats my head in with a baseball bat, the prosecution will not merely 'throw the book' at him, but a whole freakin' library.
If a drunk runs over me with a truck, an army of lawyers will spew crap like 'He was drunk - he didn't know what he was doing' to the point where the jury thinks HE was the 'victim'.
I'm just as dead either way.
A first DUI should be prosecuted as attempted murder, with a long dry spell.. performing community service in a 'Community Service Camp'. (Think GULAG) Lots of infrastructure projects need lots of little rocks - give them sledgehammers and big rocks. Let them make a contribution to society for a change.
Second DUI? Get a rope.

Doctors and pills? We have plenty of rules but enforcement seems spotty at best.

Enough for now.

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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2007, 11:14:24 AM »
I'm not going to get involved in this one, I just finished the same thread on a Concealed Carry forum that I visit, and since most of the people on there are conservatives, they're pissed at me!  Suffice it to say, I am a die-hard Libertarian, and proud of it!
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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2007, 01:58:35 PM »
I'm not going to get involved in this one, I just finished the same thread on a Concealed Carry forum that I visit, and since most of the people on there are conservatives, they're pissed at me!  Suffice it to say, I am a die-hard Libertarian, and proud of it!
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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2007, 02:13:35 PM »
Belive me none of you wanna hear this....(crap not sure to either say outlaw or lawman here lol) 's rant on drunk drivers..As for pot and shrumes...heh...as i have said in the past...grow that #$%*..roll that #$%* light that #$%* and smoke that #$%*...(or chew in the case of the shrumes)
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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2007, 02:43:50 PM »
we in Canada were well on our way to legalizing pot,untill 
George W stepped in and told our wimpy politicians to not bother or else.i dont understand why american politicians are always policing everybody else.i think its a joke that you cant smoke a joint and still be some what in control ,but you can suck back as much booze as you want,stumble around,puke your brains out.and everything is cool.the day is coming soon where all the old timers are out and the new breed is in.and the BS about weed being a gateway drug is exactly that BS.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2007, 02:47:50 PM »
I have a friend who is a DEA agent.  We are losing the war on drugs because the countries that supply our habit are allowing or unable to stop the production and distribution of said drugs.  Also, most people can be bought.  Flash enough cash at a security agent at a shipping yard and he'll look the other way.  Drug violence is climbing again.  Most drug arrests are at the steet level dealer and drug user.  The higher ups in the supply chain are so well protected with hush money that they will seldom be arrested.  I have heard some amazing stories of pay-offs from my DEA friend.  It happens in big cities and small towns all across the country on a daily basis.

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2007, 03:05:23 PM »
Sparty, you need to choose your friends better ;) ;)

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2007, 03:05:30 PM »
Belive me none of you wanna hear this....(crap not sure to either say outlaw or lawman here lol) 's rant on drunk drivers..As for pot and shrumes...heh...as i have said in the past...grow that #$%*..roll that #$%* light that #$%* and smoke that #$%*...(or chew in the case of the shrumes)

Outlaw,

You are right, some of us don't want to hear that.  You don't want to hear this but: That isn't the type of information our youth need.  Would you say that to your child?  Not everyone is responsible enough to use drugs for pleasure.  And sooner or later no good comes from the use of drugs. I have had former students ruin their lives or the lives of others with simple drugs.  All because someone said it was cool or okay to use them.  When you are close to that it affects you, it makes you pause and think.

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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2007, 03:08:47 PM »
Sparty, you need to choose your friends better ;) ;)

He is a good guy, I have known him since the third grade.  He became a DEA agent after his brother OD'd while in college.  His brother lived thankfully, but it turned his world upsidedown.
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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2007, 03:22:34 PM »
About the only drugs im tolerant to is weed...but thats because its the lesser of the two evils when it comes to it and booze...at worst smoking a few joints gives you the munchies and has you too mellow to do much...booze on the other hand...yea well it tends to get people into a lot of trouble..
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2007, 04:13:20 PM »
Cant you tell there is a war on! ;D

Should be a war on poor education. :-X

Give people knowledge and the rest will work itself out. 8)

No more wars, then we get down to the real issues. ;)

There should be a war on Goaty's paint job! Ha ha, Cheers, Terry. :D

Oh, and drugs? Publicly execute the "Mister Bigs", the "mules" and the dealers, like they do in Vietnam. They can't re-offend if they're converted to fertilizer.  8)
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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2007, 11:19:51 AM »
Belive me none of you wanna hear this....(crap not sure to either say outlaw or lawman here lol) 's rant on drunk drivers..As for pot and shrumes...heh...as i have said in the past...grow that #$%*..roll that #$%* light that #$%* and smoke that #$%*...(or chew in the case of the shrumes)

Outlaw,

You are right, some of us don't want to hear that.  You don't want to hear this but: That isn't the type of information our youth need.  Would you say that to your child?  Not everyone is responsible enough to use drugs for pleasure.  And sooner or later no good comes from the use of drugs. I have had former students ruin their lives or the lives of others with simple drugs.  All because someone said it was cool or okay to use them.  When you are close to that it affects you, it makes you pause and think.

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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2007, 12:27:25 AM »
I think many drugs should be legalized and regulated/taxed.
I also think it should be legal to leave spring-traps to really hurt/maim/kill crack addicts who break into your house, and shoot drunk drivers after the second offense.

I'd be first in line at the 7-11 for a legal pack of Marlboro Greens, or Camel non filter Sativa Blend.

And If drugs were tracked on a centralized system individual habits could be monitored.
Could you imagine the tax revenue just from marijuana?
Hard, really addictive (meth, coke, nicotine) be put under docs prescription.
Some go under laws similar to the ones for alcohol.

I'm guessing the taxes if collected for all drug trade in the US would more than be able to repair the money issues with things like the Social Security fund.
national debt shortly after that.

Why not.... the US pushed the Kyoto Protocol on most of the world, but refuses to sign it....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol

I'm guessing by signing this, SUV's might disappear.


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Re: ok time to lite another shuck, War on Drugs
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2007, 09:45:45 AM »

Is the War on Drugs Necessary?


YES!!!

With out the war on drugs the Feds and BAFT would not have the spending budget the do.  It has nothing to do with keeping kids off drugs or making America a better place to live.  It is a way to seize your property and finances legally.  It's about putting this country one step closer to being a police state (some say it already is).  They are proud of what they are doing, and it will never stop.

The police in my area randomly (and no so randomly) take your garbage and go through it.  Buddy of mine in collage threw some dirty pipe cleaners away and the police raided his house because they found them after going through his trash.  Yes I said dirt pipe cleaners.  He did not sell weed or have an unusual amount of traffic at his house.  They got a warrant because they found residue on pipe cleaners.  The cops broke almost everything he owned while raiding his home.  He ended up going bankrupt after loosing his ass in lawyer fees, tickets, court cost, ect.  In a lot of cases they find drugs so they can claim distrubution and take your house, your car, etc.  It's a dam shame. 

I don't smoke weed.  It's not that I didn't in the past, it that I don't want to loose everything I have worked so hard for because of the way I choose to catch a buzz.  It's Weiss beer or vodka with a cigarette chaser for me these days.  If they ban smokes and alcohol, I don't know what I would do.