Topic: Loud bikes...

[techy5025]

.....this should make for some interesting discussion! 

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=bizarre&id=5593943

Jim

[boatsdickson]

Loud bikes...

A good rule of thumb is that your average motorcycle -- as approved by government standards -- should hum like a sewing machine, she said.

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[kslrr]

This is nothing more than another attack from the anti motorcycle crowd.  There are those people that get off from telling others what they can and cannot do!!!!!!!!!11

[upperlake04]

  I consider myself a part of the motorcycling crowd. Loud pipes, in an area used by other people, are obnoxious and rude and show the owner to be self-centred and lacking in respect for his fellow citizens.
 Just to point out the view of the other side

[HITMAN]

Gads, they whine because they cannot hear their cell phone while driving, talking and sipping that mocha.  Nobody seems to complain about my Suburban w/Detroit deisel, on a cold day it's considerably louder than any of my bikes.

The officer that pulls me over better have a tape-measure of decible meter, otherwise he/she will be very unhappy in the courtroom.

[tramp]

most people who hit motorcycles never heard them

[Daves_76_SS]

most people who hit motorcycles never heard them

Exactly!!!

[droopy]

riders in New York City are subject to a minimum $440 fine for having a muffler or exhaust system that can be heard within 200 feet.  my bikes have to stay away from new york city stock there loud enough to be heard that far at idle 

[mick750F]

most people who hit motorcycles never heard them

   More importantly they probably never saw them...

   Most people who have been in a cage on cage accident never heard the the other cage either...at least until it was too late.

   Personally I don't care much for loud pipes on the street. Bikes that set off car alarms and wake the dead are just plain rude, obnoxious and extremely inconsiderate. They're not saving anyone's life, just degrading the life of people around them. Wearing bright orange/green/yellow safety colors will go a lot further in making your presence known than loud pipes will though I doubt that wearing them makes much of a difference either. Your best defense is YOU! Ride like everyone is out to get you. People that hit bikes are usually too preoccupied, too feeble, too self-centered or too fundamentally challenged to even be aware that there's anything besides them on the road. Needless to say, these people should be taking public transportation and shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel of anything more advanced than a Playskool steering wheel.

Mike

[m00ntan]

From Baltimore.  Loud exahust is bull#$%*.  Most have taken out their baffles without adjusting their filters or jets.  I had somebody who wanted to ride into the indoor garage without baffles.  It's insulting.  I can blow an air horn into their face and get the same affect, and the bike will last longer.

[mark]

Had some twit on a hog pass me in the pickup a while back. He just HAD to demonstrate his drag pipes(pull the clutch and throw a big rev - just to be an a--hole) on the way by.

What saved his dumb a$$ that time was not the loud pipes, but the fact that I couldn't kick the door open in his face at 65mph.

My 2 cents on the matter.


Happy trails.

[oldbiker]

If I could afford a Rolls Royce, I would revel in its silent comfort!

When I ride my CB I am proud that it is relatively quiet showing that it is a fine bike which does not need to advertise its presence by making a noise.

When I was racing the volume did not matter, but in a suburb of a city quietness is politeness.

[upperlake04]

If I could afford a Rolls Royce, I would revel in its silent comfort!

When I ride my CB I am proud that it is relatively quiet showing that it is a fine bike which does not need to advertise its presence by making a noise.

When I was racing the volume did not matter, but in a suburb of a city quietness is politeness.

That could only have been written by an English gentleman with the self-assurance that comes with maturity.  Cheers OB

[Bikebuff]

If I could afford a Rolls Royce, I would revel in its silent comfort!

When I ride my CB I am proud that it is relatively quiet showing that it is a fine bike which does not need to advertise its presence by making a noise.

When I was racing the volume did not matter, but in a suburb of a city quietness is politeness.

That could only have been written by an English gentleman with the self-assurance that comes with maturity.  Cheers OB

BOTH are well, well said!

Living in Milwaukee, Wisconsin the din of loud pipes by Harley's is an everyday occurrence, which is to say most appear to be unaffected by it.  I, for one think its ridiculous and quite obnoxious.  However, on the track its nice to hear the bikes' symphony of sound.  Quite the melody to my ears. 

Prost!

[Shiftredline]

I live in Baltimore Also. I hate getting invovled with these stupid debate but here is my take. I live in a neighborhood that just about everyone has a bike with loud exhausts. it is accepted. Most of us on my street try to do the least amount of warm up on the bike when we leave in the morning so we are not waking the whole neighborhood. My Honda Chopper has a loud exhaust. And I like it. I am however not like some A'holes who go around blipping the throttle every chance they get. I do believe it has aided in the fact that other vehicles on the road hear me if I am caught in their blind spot. Then again I do not ride my bike around Malls or Establishments just to show off.

Well that is my $0.02 .

[USN20]

Funny how the anti-motorcycle crowd complains about loud bikes. When in fact there are way more boom-box vehicles on the road thumping and bumping away 24/7 regardless of the season. Most of us have experienced the window-rattling effects. This behavior seems to be acceptable to law enforcement but yet the bikes are singled out for their "excessive" noise levels. Where is the justification for this double standard? Please do tell ...  

[cafehonda]

Most people who complain about loud pipes don't ride and therefore aren't concerned with what happens to those who do. I don't care for children, but I get assailed and regailed with the ever more fascinating stories of their cute activities. I ride with loud pipes, they talk incessantly about their kids. It kinda balances out.

[martini]

I can see the argument for loud pipes and I'm not oppossed to those that have them thinking that it makes them safer. What I can't stand, and think is obnoxious and ridiculous, is bikes so loud that they actually cause rattle windows. IMHO this has nothing to do with safety and is probably more a reflection of the size of a certain part of the riders anatomy. My 2 cents.

[TwoTired]

I live in a neighborhood that just about everyone has a bike with loud exhausts. it is accepted.

I expect this sentiment is echoed by several of the "Loud Bike Crowd", so don't take the following as a personal attack.
 I believe the statement that "It is accepted" is a misinterpretation.
They may have simply decided that the noise being made wasn't worth the effort of hurling a brick at the perpetrator.  Or, eliminating the problem at its source.  They also know that calling the police will, at best, bring a patrol car 15-30 minutes after the event has past, and then only if there isn't something else to do or they feel inclined to do more paperwork.
Even if you actually have a neighborhood where each and every individual "accepted" bike noise, do you only operate your bike in that neighborhood?  I venture to predict that other neighborhoods you ride through find people who are not so sympathetic to loud pipes.  Do you care?  If not, this would explain noise ordinances and their proliferation.

I have noisy bikes in this neighborhood, as well, along with the boom cars that try to make up for the small engine size and low IQ levels with festival levels of speaker emanations.
It is not accepted, it is forced upon me and my family.

Infants and children always push the boundaries of behavior in order to establish just where those boundaries are.  Some people don't mature beyond this practice.  If Joe cool has a loud bike, then I'll make mine louder to be "cooler". Besides, who's going to stop me?

Well, it is communities that have had enough of infantile behavior, that will stop you, or make you pay dearly for it.  Infants and children also complain loudly when limits are imposed.

Usually, if you slap someone in the face (or ears) often enough, something will be done to get you to stop.  Can someone that doesn't deserve punishment be hurt, too?  You betcha.  Especially with an over-reaction.  However, if you loud pipes guys won't police yourselves, why do you not expect an abused society won't do it for you?

Your freedom to persue happiness does not extend to my ears.  I love the sound of a well tuned engine singing the horsepower song... at the track.  But, not when I'm trying to sleep through the flu or cope with other illness, hear a quiet passage of music or movie, have a discussion with a family member, have a phone conversation, or simply relax after a long day in a noisy, hectic environment.  Your noise intrusion is a personal attack.  It is NOT accepted, even if it is tolerated on occasion.

Do I pay for your adolescent persuit to be noisy on a bike?  Yes, I do. With extra animosity from drivers at anything on two wheels.  Is THAT fair?  Do you like being a willing accomplice to other bikers injuries?
You want to save lives?  Stop antagonizing the populace, be they bikers or not.  It is a problem within your control to do something about.  How many excuses will you use to avoid taking appropriate action?

Regards,

[upperlake04]

 Thats telling them TT

[Rocking-M]

I don't know why Upperlake got into this topic, he's to damn old to hear anything anyway. 

[neil young]

i have a four into one Kirker,its loud so i switched to a set of nos jardines.still loud but in a nicer way. i know my riding buddies think so anyway (my buddy mike hated riding behind me)my neighbors kids liked the Kirker tho

[techy5025]

This issue may be settled not by noise ordinances but rather by emission laws. It's only a matter
of time before other states follow California regards emissions.

I recently bought a replacement exhaust off eBay to replace the one I dinged when I dropped the
bike. Then I noticed that the pipe...although it fit OK...had a catalytic converter in line. Got to checking
and found all the new bikes sold in California have one. Actually, it probably helps the gas mileage because
with it the bike can be run leaner. To use it requires a different computer and other stuff so I am looking
for a "non-California" pipe.

You can always gen up an excuse to justify bad practices. As I've said before, I believe the argument that loud
pipes save lives is hogwash. The real reason is to attract attention to the owner....just like the loud boomboxes.

Why would anyone want to ride around on something that will eventually make them deaf?

Jim

[firecracker]

...Why would anyone want to ride around on something that will eventually make them deaf?

When I was a kid, somebody told me that the bikes weren't loud to the rider, because they were riding so fast, the sound was behind them.

You mean that's not true


 

[Shiftredline]

I live in a neighborhood that just about everyone has a bike with loud exhausts. it is accepted.

I expect this sentiment is echoed by several of the "Loud Bike Crowd", so don't take the following as a personal attack.
 I believe the statement that "It is accepted" is a misinterpretation.
They may have simply decided that the noise being made wasn't worth the effort of hurling a brick at the perpetrator.  Or, eliminating the problem at its source.  They also know that calling the police will, at best, bring a patrol car 15-30 minutes after the event has past, and then only if there isn't something else to do or they feel inclined to do more paperwork.
Even if you actually have a neighborhood where each and every individual "accepted" bike noise, do you only operate your bike in that neighborhood?  I venture to predict that other neighborhoods you ride through find people who are not so sympathetic to loud pipes.  Do you care?  If not, this would explain noise ordinances and their proliferation.

I have noisy bikes in this neighborhood, as well, along with the boom cars that try to make up for the small engine size and low IQ levels with festival levels of speaker emanations.
It is not accepted, it is forced upon me and my family.

Infants and children always push the boundaries of behavior in order to establish just where those boundaries are.  Some people don't mature beyond this practice.  If Joe cool has a loud bike, then I'll make mine louder to be "cooler". Besides, who's going to stop me?

Well, it is communities that have had enough of infantile behavior, that will stop you, or make you pay dearly for it.  Infants and children also complain loudly when limits are imposed.

Usually, if you slap someone in the face (or ears) often enough, something will be done to get you to stop.  Can someone that doesn't deserve punishment be hurt, too?  You betcha.  Especially with an over-reaction.  However, if you loud pipes guys won't police yourselves, why do you not expect an abused society won't do it for you?

Your freedom to persue happiness does not extend to my ears.  I love the sound of a well tuned engine singing the horsepower song... at the track.  But, not when I'm trying to sleep through the flu or cope with other illness, hear a quiet passage of music or movie, have a discussion with a family member, have a phone conversation, or simply relax after a long day in a noisy, hectic environment.  Your noise intrusion is a personal attack.  It is NOT accepted, even if it is tolerated on occasion.

Do I pay for your adolescent persuit to be noisy on a bike?  Yes, I do. With extra animosity from drivers at anything on two wheels.  Is THAT fair?  Do you like being a willing accomplice to other bikers injuries?
You want to save lives?  Stop antagonizing the populace, be they bikers or not.  It is a problem within your control to do something about.  How many excuses will you use to avoid taking appropriate action?

Regards,

TwoTired,
No I did not take this as a personal attack. This is how you feel and I respect your opinions. You know the problem with issues like this is that you could bring anything into it. The neighbors gas weed wacker is annoying. He works all day then comes home when my kids are taking a nap and wants to cut his grass. You see what I mean. We could argue that just about everything we do in  life affects someone. Like I said before I do not know why I even got started in this topic.