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My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« on: September 05, 2007, 09:41:00 AM »
Just picked them both up, they are non runners, both running before storage, good compression on both, will post pics later after getting them cleaned up, both low miles, only 4k on the 360 and it and still has the original tires!
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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2007, 01:53:35 PM »
sweet!

is that a 73 with a cl tank on it or a CL without the high pipes?
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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2007, 02:21:24 PM »
the vin plate says, 9/72, So I think its a '73 bike, the bike has 10k miles and is on its second set of tires. I just called the DMV and I have to go through a process in getting title, but its possible since we know the state its registered in. It could be a CL tank, I don't know, there is no rust inside, I'm really looking forward to cleaning these bikes up with steel wool and WD40

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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2007, 04:15:32 PM »
Check into the cam chain on the 360.   74/5 where know to be crap.






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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 05:34:44 PM »
the vin plate says, 9/72, So I think its a '73 bike, the bike has 10k miles and is on its second set of tires. I just called the DMV and I have to go through a process in getting title, but its possible since we know the state its registered in. It could be a CL tank, I don't know, there is no rust inside, I'm really looking forward to cleaning these bikes up with steel wool and WD40


Well, it's definitely a CL tank. You should be able to tell if the motor is a CB or a CL from the engine number. Motors are almost the same, but a little different gearing on the CL's. Looks sweet either way :)
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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2007, 06:09:50 PM »
Looks like a CL tank on a CB going by the mismatch in colors between tank and side cover.
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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2007, 08:02:21 PM »


        After looking at that 350, it looks to me like you guys are probably right in thinking that a CL tank was put on there. Of course the frame and engine serial numbers will indicate what it is. Nice bike none the less. 8) ;)
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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2007, 04:09:19 PM »
I bought batteries for both last night and changed oil on the 350, it turned over but didn't fire, checked for spark and its there, going to pull bowls tonight and clear jets, I think I'll have a runner in no time. Went to the DMV today and started the paperwork for getting title, I've got to send a certified letter to the owner on record to get a bill of sale from them. I worked til 11 pm last night and forgot dinner, then had to go grab something at taco bell. This is fun! I cleared alot of rust on these in just a couple hours.

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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2007, 11:55:14 PM »
Well, using common sense, there is a CL tank in a bike with low pipes, strutted front fender and no-crossover handlebar, so it is easier to think that the bike was a CB with a CL tank.


I don't want to rain in your parade, but I also read many horror stories about the 360 -saying it was suppoused to improve the 350 but never really did-. There is no better time than now to decide whether it is worth the time and money or is it better if you sell it. Restoring a bike is a big time-and-money consuming endeavour, and if you are restoring two, it not only doubles, but your attention get divided and you don't focus on the final target that easily. If I were you, I would park one and wouldn't start until the other one is finished, even when you can start buying parts as you go.

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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2007, 09:59:33 AM »
I got the 350 running last night, its started out with a very short putter from the motor when kicking it over, I kept at it for 10 minutes, it actually started better from the kick start, what a workout! Every time I let it sat, it ran for a longer time. Now it idles perfectly and is awesome! I love the torque and vibration from the 2 Cyl. motor, My CB750 is just too smooth

The 360 has major issues with gunk in the bottom of the carb bowls, I'm soaking them now. the tank is also rusty and I suspect the petcock is plugged. I'm going to take advice and focus on the 350, most people are telling me its the cooler looking bike anyway.

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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2007, 01:31:31 PM »
that 350 twin is a wonderful little engine,you can run the piss out of it and it just keeps on ticking.
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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2007, 08:33:59 AM »
... I'm going to take advice and focus on the 350, most people are telling me its the cooler looking bike anyway.

Hey! >:( that all depends on what you do with it. :)

I know the 360s have a much stiffer frame, but they're bigger and no doubt heavier. I've always liked the 360 motor and rolled under tank better.
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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2007, 09:43:45 AM »
feel free to pop over to www.hondatwins.com too!

Glad to hear you got it running!
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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2007, 04:02:21 PM »
Thanks for the honda twins website, I pulled the points cover on the 350 and noticed the right side was .022" and it should be .012-.014. I can't beleive it runs as well as it does like that, I'm going to fix that tonight with the dwell meter. I also had to rebuild the petcock, the old one was wet. I just can get over how smooth and torqie that little twin is.

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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2007, 09:18:46 PM »
Thanks for the honda twins website, I pulled the points cover on the 350 and noticed the right side was .022" and it should be .012-.014. I can't beleive it runs as well as it does like that, I'm going to fix that tonight with the dwell meter. I also had to rebuild the petcock, the old one was wet. I just can get over how smooth and torqie that little twin is.


They run pretty well on one cylinder, so watch out! They are fun bikes, indeed! I took the 72 that I saved from the grave out for the first ride over 10 miles that it's had in 20 years tonight and she pulls like a champ! great little bikes for sure :)
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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2007, 12:40:42 AM »
Judging by the front disc brake, seat, exhaust and tank, I'm betting that you have a CB360 on which someone has replaced a few parts from a CL360.  The front fender and side cover appear to be from a CL360 and most likely a '75 (K-1).

Because they followed the ever-great 350's with little in the way of improvements, the 360's suffer from a less than positive reputation.  Add to that the six-speed transmission and cam chain tensioner issue and they become a hard model to appreciate.  That said, with the tensioner update and proper tuning/maintenance they are an entirely enjoyable ride.

If you intend to keep the bike, it is well worth performing the cam chain tensioner update.  To begin, go to the engine serial number box and look for a colon (two dots) stamped somewhere within the number string.  If it's there, the update was performed by a dealer at some point and you should be in good shape.  If it's not, chances are you have the original tensioner setup and it should be replaced.  The chain will eventually start eating the engine case if you don't and nothing good will come of that.

I have a pdf. copy of the Honda factory modification procedure that I can email to anyone who would like it.  The file is too large to post.  I can also provide the name and part numbers of the three parts required for this procedure.  They are generally available, if you don't mind searching a few old suppliers.  The update can be accomplished with the engine in place, although it is somewhat easier to do with the engine removed from the frame.  The procedure outlines how to do it with the engine in place.

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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2007, 06:03:56 AM »
I think the 350 is a 73 CB350G model with a 73 CL gas tank. The CL models never had disc brakes and 73 was the only year the CB350s came with a disc brake. Send me your VIN #s and I'll check the Honda I.D. Guide and confirm it for you. I would concentrate on the 350. Great bikes but a little buzzy above 45mph.

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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2007, 09:35:11 AM »
This bike nows runs perfect now that the points are both set to spec, one question?, I don't yet have a service manual and want to know how to change the oil stainer? I didn't see anything when I changed the oil? I'll be posting some pics later now that the rust is nearly all cleaned up from the bike.

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2007, 03:31:37 PM »
This bike nows runs perfect now that the points are both set to spec, one question?, I don't yet have a service manual and want to know how to change the oil stainer? I didn't see anything when I changed the oil? I'll be posting some pics later now that the rust is nearly all cleaned up from the bike.

It's on the right side of the engine.



You remove the three screws, pop that cover off.

Underneath that you will find the centrifugal oil filter.



Remove #15 with a circlip pliers and then pull # 10 & 16 out to find the compartment. Clean the sludge out throughly and you're good to go.
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2007, 01:19:41 PM »
Thanks, is this something you can do after you changed the oil already? Before seeing this I suspected a filter or something was behind the 3 screws, I tried removing them and they were frozen, I squirted a good shot of WD. I'll wait and try later and may try a gental impact driver, I just hate to strip em out.


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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2007, 03:26:19 PM »
Thanks, is this something you can do after you changed the oil already? Before seeing this I suspected a filter or something was behind the 3 screws, I tried removing them and they were frozen, I squirted a good shot of WD. I'll wait and try later and may try a gental impact driver, I just hate to strip em out.




DO IT. You won't loose oil. These oil filters are something that a lot of people simply ignored in the past. Do it because a) you're better than that and b) peace of mind. You can get new screws at the hardware store. If they are froze up- it has to make you wonder if it was ever removed, eh? Also, you wouldn't skimp on the oil filter in your car, so why skimp on your new project!
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2007, 09:59:13 AM »
Yeah, I was able to remove the top 2 by myself with an impact driver, my budddy is comming over tonight, going to use his extra set of hands to pound the impact wrench while I turn with 2 hands, going to get er done and clean the sludge out.
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Re: My new project '74 CB360 and '73 CB350
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2007, 09:22:50 PM »
Got the 360 running today! she not running nearly as good as the 350, it will take some time. The sea foam helped alot, initially before seafoam she was just running on one cyl, not good! The seafoam broke through some crud then it was reving over 6000, no problem. I had previosly taken the bowls off and blew out the slow and main jets and let them soak in carb cleaner. The 360 has 4800 original miles, the original skinny rear tire is a joke, but I'm going to keep it for the original look.

The 350 runs like a dream, I named him "Herbe", this bike is truely a wonder and my favorite bike.  The 350 idles perfectly the second I start the motor up, I adjusted the cam chain today, after that I had to lower the idle by about 100 rpm. I added the saddled bags which work well with the lower pipes.