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Offline ofreen

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Re: Wearing a helmet?
« Reply #75 on: September 18, 2007, 12:47:09 PM »
None taken, it is just how somethings are, we have rights and we have privleges. I don't like it either Driving legally falls under privilage. Licensing seems to have very little to do with competency these days. We have some real knucleheads out there. Ride safe.

My point is that it is a misuse of the word 'privilege.'

A definition of privilege -

American Heritage Dictionary - (prĭv'ə-lĭj, prĭv'lĭj)  Pronunciation Key 
n.   

1. a. A special advantage, immunity, permission, right, or benefit granted to or enjoyed by an individual, class, or caste. See Synonyms at right.
   b. Such an advantage, immunity, or right held as a prerogative of status or rank, and exercised to the exclusion or detriment of others.
2.  The principle of granting and maintaining a special right or immunity: a society based on privilege.
3.  Law - The right to privileged communication in a confidential relationship, as between client and attorney, patient and physician, or     
     communicant and priest.
4.  An option to buy or sell a stock, including put, call, spread, and straddle. 

Other dictionaries have similar definitions.
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Re: Wearing a helmet?
« Reply #76 on: September 18, 2007, 01:54:01 PM »

My point is that it is a misuse of the word 'privilege.'

A definition of privilege -





Here's another definition.

When you pay your state and federal taxes, some of that money goes into DOT and road rapair, construction, managment, enforcement, etc...

Them highways and city streets ain't yours, it's everyone's. For the good of everyone that uses these roads, laws are developed to make certain everyone who uses these roads are licenced and insured. We can't very well have the public roads be a free for all with no license for motor vehicle users, no enforcement of traffic laws, uninsured motorists, drinking and driving, etc..etc..etc...

The laws are for the good of the many, therefore, you must prove to the state governement that you are worthy of utilizing the roads that everyone else uses.

You get your drivers license, you obay the traffic laws, you earn the legal right (or privilge) to use the roads. Violate these laws enough times, and that privilige is taken away from you as well it should be.

You don't like the law or laws? then form a valid argument that you can convince others to join, send this to your local city government officials and follow up on it.

Don't get too caught up in the definitions. A "right" would be considered constitutional, a privilige is an earned right that has limitations and may be taken away if you violate those limitations.


All that being said, I do not support a helmet law. I think you are a friggen idiot if you don't wear one, but that should be your decision. The only thing mandatory should be eye wear of some sort so you don't get a bug in your eye and run into a mini van full of kids or something.

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Re: Wearing a helmet?
« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2007, 03:28:37 PM »
Don't get too caught up in the definitions.

I'd say definitions are pretty important if you are to communicate effectively, especially on a forum such as this.  There is no body language, inflections, etc. to see or hear.  If there is no common understanding, at best there is no communication , and at worst, miscommunication.
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Re: Wearing a helmet?
« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2007, 05:21:25 PM »
Well either way they have us by the short hairs. Relax and it hurts less.
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Re: Wearing a helmet?
« Reply #79 on: September 19, 2007, 04:11:48 AM »
This comment is not a knock against you, but any time I hear the "it's a privilege, not a right" spiel it annoys the hell out of me.  So we have "privileges" subject to the whims of government bureaucracies?  An activity like driving is licensed to try to ensure the vehicle operator is competent, but that doesn't make it a "privilege."  We are citizens, not subjects.  The bureaucrats may think differently, but they need to be set straight.  Trouble is, too many people these days don't know the difference between being a citizen and being a subject.

Again, no offense meant toward you.

The trouble these days is that far to many people are far to quick to jump up and bang on about their rights, but those same people are nowhere to be seen when the subject of responsibility is raised >:(
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Re: Wearing a helmet?
« Reply #80 on: September 19, 2007, 07:05:18 AM »
As Roger Waters said: "Give any one species too much rope and they'll f#&k it up."
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Re: Wearing a helmet?
« Reply #81 on: September 19, 2007, 09:33:54 AM »
Well either way they have us by the short hairs. Relax and it hurts less.

What about the females that are shaven down there? lol Sorry...first thing that came to mind when you said that.
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