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Offline Geeto67

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So, I am a traitor......
« on: September 21, 2007, 12:22:14 PM »
I did it, I defected. I bought my first non-japanese bike, and a new one to boot. But I have to say it is pretty @#$% awsome.




Anybody want to buy some SOHC 750 hondas? The new toy needs some more space in the garage.
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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 12:42:12 PM »
I hate you...  and not because it's not a Honda, but because I WANT ONE!!!!! >:( >:( ;D

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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 12:43:14 PM »
Congratulations, that Paul Smart bike is awesome. Just do some workout to strenghten your back muscles.... the riding position is not very confortable, but, who cares when you are riding one of those things?

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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 12:45:40 PM »
the paul smart is the one with the fairing, isn't it? i believe that's the sport classic 1000. fun bike, very scary. i rode my friend's, and picked the front wheel up for half a block without trying to in 2nd gear.
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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2007, 12:54:17 PM »
Here's the Paul Smart limited edition



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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2007, 01:26:28 PM »
I found a local dealer with a brand new leftover 06 sport 1000, and got it for a real bargain.

Going from my K5 to this bike was a night and day expirence. The first 100 miles or so it felt like I was going to fall over the front of the bike. But once I got used to the feeling of constantly falling forward it became a blast to ride.

The paulsmart was a special edition (1000 units) for 06 only and come with ohlins suspension. The Sport1000S for 07 is almost the same bike except it doesn't have the ohlins suspension and has twin shocks.
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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 01:28:09 PM »
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I hate you...  and not because it's not a Honda, but because I WANT ONE!!!!!  
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You gonna do anything to it?  termi pipes? I do like the look of the PS fairing.  Maybe they sell an aftermarket one for your bike.  OEM would be pricey.  
Looks great, how about some action shots. :)
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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2007, 02:05:45 PM »
termi pipes are on order. I like the look of the sport 1000, but they do make a race fairing that is the same shape as the PS fairiang. I probably will jsut leave the bike stock looking, however since that is what attracted me to it in the first place.

If I can afford it I might get an ohlins shock for the rear also, although that showa is nice.
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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2007, 05:41:02 PM »
Oh Geeto how could you! But like everyone else I kinda like-em, so enjoy it.

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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2007, 06:09:11 PM »
I needed a bike that I didn;t have to turn a wrench on to ride....poor choice I know, but every SOHC I own is about to get torn down at the first snow fall (my K5 daily rider is hurting badly - needs every gasket from the cylinder base on up and has been backfiring out the #1 exhaust).

If it makes up for it I am picking up my new FREE barnfind 1969 diecast K0 complete with lesters tomorrow.....but that is another story....
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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2007, 09:04:48 AM »
You are right, the Paul Smart is the grey one with the green frame, a "replica" of the Ducati SuperSport 900 that won at Daytona -or that's what I recall having read-

In any case, yours is also a cool-looking bike. I hope you have serious money for upgrades, servicing and repairs. You don't want to wrench on your bikes but you will have to spend an equivalent amount of time to make money for your Ducati mechanic.


I read here somewhere: "money or sweat: pay either way"....

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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2007, 09:15:53 AM »
I wrench on all my own bikes (when it doesn't require a special tool too expensive for me to buy). I am going to let the dealer do the first years worth of services, then do it myself from there on out. Services for '06 run about $300 per service which is high (mostly because of cam belt adjustment which is an hour and a half job). For 07 the service is about 1/2 that, because of a revised tensioner, which I can upgrade my bike to (and just might after the first service).

 Right now I have a lot of hondas in desperate need of attention, like my daily rider cb750, and I don't want to be totally bikeless. I think I am going to also get rid of the low mileage cb750s I have that I don't ride anymore - it is better these bikes get cared for and used than just sit around collecting dust as garage candy.

The Paulsmart is named to commerate Paul Smart's victory at Imola on a 750ss (I think this was in '72). "New Blue" a special edtion NCR version of the paulsmart for racing only commerates "Old Blue", cycle world's hot rod 900ss that won daytona. 
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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2007, 10:06:52 AM »
I don't hate you ;D But I hate the fact your getting a K0  >:( >:( ;)

I have one question that I've been meaning to ask somebody with a Duc.

All Duc's are pretty much air/oil cooled??? If so, how does the rear cylinder cool itself down???

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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2007, 11:24:29 AM »
Only the Dual Spark (DS motors) are air cooled. This includes the Monster line, Supersport Line, SportClassics, and the MH900e, as well as some of the older sport bikes (pre 916). The 916, 996, 998, 999, 1098 are all watercooled.

the DS motor is a 90 degree V-twin that is air/oil cooled and has a massive oil cooler on the front of the bike. If you look at the bikes that have this motor most are naked bikes and there is a lot of room in the frame to allow air flow. The few faired bikes (full fairing SSes) use the inside of the fairings as ducts to direct airflow to the rear cylinder. Overall though that oil cooler plays a big role in cooling the motor down. operating temperature for a DS motor runs about 173-235 degrees (they have an oil temp gauge) in average  stop and go use. The overheating warning kicks in at about 335 degrees. I got caught in traffic during the 9/11 ride and saw as much as 315 on my bike which was nerve wracking but not unsafe. Overall they work like any aircooled motor - cylinder fins and a good oiling system, and very loose tolerances in the engine.

The K0 I completely lucked out on. I have a friend who is big into the DOHC bikes but hates the SOHCs (not fast enough he says). He is also completely internet and computer phobic, so he has no idea how out of control the prices on these bikes are. He was also my local parts guy at my honda dealer until last year so I know him pretty well. Anyway one oh his distant family relations had this bike on his farm upstate in a barn and gave it to him when they needed the barn cleared out. He took it in and got it running, cleaned the fuel tank and that is as far as he got before his garage got to small because of DOHC stuff. He offered to me for free if I could get it out of there and I agreed to it sight unseen. In the interm his only transportation, a 1979 cb750F spit its timing chain and took out the motor. As luck would have it another friend had a good running DOHC CB750F that a customer of his fried the wiring harness trying to jump the bike off a car battery and just wanted it junked. As a gesture of good will I bought the DOHC 750F (cheaply) and am giving it to my friend in exchange for the K0.

I have since seen the bike and While it does run, everything has a nice patina of rust on it and all the cables are frozen. It was also cafe'd in the 1970s and has some interesting parts like lester mags with dual disc, an RC cam, and accel coils. I am not 100% sure what I am going to do with the bike yet but I am leaning toward building a Joe Bar cb750 cafe racer Replica.

For those unfamilar, Joe Bar is a French comic book about four cafe racers in the 1970s who hang out at Joe's Bar. One rides an h2, one a Norton, another a Ducati 750SS, and a Red K0 cb750. I have been using the comics for the last year or so to help myself learn french and I think it is really funny. Recently a friend of mine gave me a figurine of the cb750 and it has been on my desk percolating cafe racer ideas. I just so happen to have a red body set for a K0 in my garage, so.....

one of the albums has been translated into english and you can get them from the UK:





http://www.comicsworld.co.uk/JoeBar/Albums.aspx

figurine:

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Figurine-Joe-Bar-Team-Edouard-Bracame_W0QQitemZ160158293820QQihZ006QQcategoryZ32645QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/BNIB-1-18-HONDA-CB750-JOE-BAR_W0QQitemZ130154192526QQihZ003QQcategoryZ10460QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem

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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2007, 12:00:32 PM »
Congrats on the new Duke purchase.. ;D
I am gonna get one of those come spring (try to find a used one for cheap)..
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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2007, 12:24:50 PM »
No... Obviously there are far better rides than an old CBs.Looks like you have one. I have several, but I still dig the old Honda's.

The Duck looks great.... I assume it has the standard dry clutch with will need the plates replaced about every 4000 to 5000 miles at about $150.00 each time. Ducks are exotic and you pay for it dearly over time. Well of course if you can get the parts from Italy.

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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2007, 04:08:17 PM »
no, yer no traitor, i've been seriously considering a speed triple myself.

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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2007, 08:03:15 PM »
....the clutch at 4000 miles. Yikes!  :o

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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2007, 08:30:38 PM »
that bike is SEX!!  I want one for Christmas!

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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2007, 10:42:21 PM »
Yeah the bike is a dry clutch bike. Only the '06 sports were dry clutch, the '07s are all wet clutch (except the back in black special editions) and it is easy enough to convert. I know guys here in town that are getting 6500-7000 miles out of their dry clutches, basically if you don't beat on the bike then the clutch doesn't go bad as quick. 
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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2007, 09:59:21 AM »
great lookin' duck, geeto. 
just to let you know... dad owns a hailwood and works at a ducati shop so he finds REALLY cheap parts all the time.  let me know if you're looking for something and i'll get a price from him.
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Re: So, I am a traitor......
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2007, 10:03:57 AM »
that is my favorite modern sport bike! I've been drooling over it for ages.

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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2007, 07:32:52 PM »


If it makes up for it I am picking up my new FREE barnfind 1969 diecast K0 complete with lesters tomorrow.....but that is another story....

I don't care about the Duke Geety, but I DO hate you for getting a K0 for free, ha ha! ;D
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