thanks for the info, it cant be real tight as the bottom of the cap is spring loaded. called the honda dealer its only 7 buck, but of course they have to order it. i made one out of the rubber gasket material i used to make my discs for under the cylinder head.they held up great. it just requires a little more umph to close the gas cap, since i put the old one back in and put my homemade on top of it. will see if it works after my next ride. carl