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'77 CB550F Cafe Project - Brakes
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2007, 06:06:35 pm »
After milling 3mm off the R6 caliper mounting tabs the tabs are still as thick as the mounting tabs of this Honda RC51 caliper.
 
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'77 CB550F Cafe Project - Brakes
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2007, 12:58:18 pm »
The other trick to providing clearance is to mill the back of the caliper at the same angle as the spokes to achieve added clearance.
Being unsure of how much material there is to mill without breaching the piston bores, I had to sacrifice a caliper to research.

 
As you can see there is almost 6mm of material on the inside of the caliper before hitting the piston bores.
 
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'77 CB550F Cafe Project - Brakes
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2007, 12:59:14 pm »
Now there's no concerns about spoke and caliper interference.
 
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'77 CB550F Cafe Project - Headlight Mount
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2007, 12:59:49 pm »
With the front end and brakes all sorted out, it's time to finish up mounting the headlight and get started on a fender.

Hey here's an interesting trick!
The Buell M2 headlight mounting brackets were the only 43mm brackets that I could find at the time, but they never really looked right so I found these really cool T-bolt stainless steel clamps and fabed up some custom headlight mounts.

These where so easy to make that you can easily play around with angles and dimensions till you get the right setup for you.
The T-bolt clamps also come in many sizes so this should work for any fork diameter.
 
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'77 CB550F Cafe Project - Chassis Mods!
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2007, 01:00:27 pm »
Before I get dirty making fenders and a seat, I wanted to finish up all the chassis/suspension work first.

You're gonna love the rear setup on this bike!
I found this amazing and very rare Genuine Dresda swingarm.
Unfortunately all I could get my hands on was the swingarm and axle adjusters, so once I sourced precision sealed bearings that pressed right in I machined up the pivot shaft and spacers.
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'77 CB550F Cafe Project - Rear-sets
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2007, 01:02:43 pm »
With the front and rear suspension mostly sorted (except rear shocks) it was on to the foot controls

Making rear-set controls for my recent CB550 Interceptor project was one of the most difficult tasks to date.
These old pull rod drum brake bikes pose the unique problem of transferring the brake pedal leverage to the drum brake arm.
I've seen several approaches from using a brake cable to the more common attempt of integrating the stock pivot shaft and pull rod with various linkages.

Neither approach seemed like the right one to me.
I wanted to remove all the stock brake actuation hardware so I could locate the rear-sets wherever I wanted, without the restrictions the factory brake pivot imposed.
A flexible brake cable would certainly offer the flexibility I was looking for but they are difficult to integrate into the design and require a custom cable and adjusters at both the rear-sets and the brake drum.

Once I cut the passenger foot peg mounts and ALL the brake hardware off my frame, I could start figuring out the layout for the rear-sets.
 
A method of mounting was the first task and for that I made 9-way adjustable aluminum plates that mount to the frame using the swingarm pivot bolt and the lower engine mounting bolt. Aluminum is excellent for making rear-sets from because it is so easy to work with. All the flat aluminum parts are cut and shaped using a band saw, drill press and draw files.
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'77 CB550F Cafe Project - Rear-sets
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2007, 12:06:00 pm »
Shifter side turned out great.
The splined shifter arm and rod are from a 2006 CBR1000R and fit perfectly.



 
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'77 CB550F Cafe Project - Rear-sets
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2007, 12:07:08 pm »
Now the rear-sets have a 9 position range of adjustment without affecting the shifter or the brake action.
I just have to spend a little time turning down the foot pegs and knurling them for traction before the anodizer colors them black.

 
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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2007, 12:42:20 pm »
FJ,

What an incredible thread!  That bike looks awesome, and I am really enjoying your documentation of all your hard work.

Keep it up!

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Re: CB550F Cafe Project - More Progress & Photos
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2007, 06:58:40 am »
Im def keeping tabs on this one..
Main rides: '01 Harley Davidson Softail Deuce '85 Honda VF750F Interceptor,'12 Dodge Avenger '02 Honda Odyssey EX-L, '84 Chevy C10
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'77 CB550F Cafe Project - Rear-sets
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2007, 07:53:29 pm »
The only issue that I'm not happy with is the interference with the kick starter.
If I can work out a folding foot peg that would be great, but for now I'll just use the electric starter.

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'77 CB550F Cafe Project - Rear-sets
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2007, 02:16:06 pm »
When I set out on the mission to build rear sets for my Café Project bike I didn't think that it would be as much work or as rewarding as it's been.
At the onset, the goal was just to build a nice set of controls fabricated from any number of parts sourced from wreckers or ebay and modified using the occasional part made from scrap aluminum. Only when I started making parts did the focus change to a complete custom set designed and built to the best of my abilities and to function as well as they can.
It's been the biggest single task of the project and I'm very proud of the outcome.   

Here they are straight from the anodized and ready to be installed.
 
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Re: CB550F Cafe Project - More Progress & Photos
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2007, 02:50:04 pm »
FJ,

Those 9-way brackets are #$%*in and simple which I love. That's what's so fun about these bikes. Just plain simple to do what ever you like.

NAPA sounds awesome. Unfortunatly it's at least an 8hr drive up there for me. I can never justify the trip because I've got some of the best roads just a few miles from home. Oh well, I'm sure you'll have a great time! Wish it was easier to get up there. Maybe I will find a way. Remind me around March...

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CB550F Cafe Project - Fenders
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2007, 04:37:15 pm »
Now with most of the hard bits done the real fun begins. Styling and body work!
For me, styling and visual appeal are one of the toughest elements to pull off well.
I've followed many bike builds over the years and I'm always amazed at the vision many of you have regarding design, proportions, balance and colour.

Thankfully, for me what defines the CB550F Super Sport is the tank, side panels and the frame, so all of these elements will stay predominantly stock.
That only leaves the seat, fenders and paint to chance.

Considering this bike will occasionally be ridden in our wet Vancouver climate, full fenders are a must.

I really like the early Suzuki GS750 fenders.
The front has very classic smooth lines and a snug fit, but it's too narrow for the larger front tire on this project so I'll have to make a copy and widen it to fit the tire

I started by finding this GS750 fender on ebay.
 
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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2007, 05:08:41 pm »
Making composite parts is't particularly difficult, but there are a lot steps to doing it well.
All composite pieces will be made in molds cast from actual plugs, and that means making a finish grade plug first.
It might have been easier to split the GS750 front fender down the centre and widen it to make the front fender plug from, but it's steel and difficult for me to cut, so I chose to make a fiberglass copy from the original.
 
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« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2007, 05:09:47 pm »
From the initial front fender mold I made a quick fiberglass copy of the chrome GS750 fender.
This fiberglass copy was easy to split down the middle, widen 10mm and fill with bondo to achieve a finished plug.
Other pics show the finished fender plug, the final mold and completed carbon fiber fender ready for paint.

 
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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2007, 05:11:11 pm »
The rear fender is from a Suzuki GS550. It's a little smoother and rounder than the CB550 fender and should complement the front fender nicely.
To make it fit the CB550 I cut the front mount off my CB fender and bonded it to the GS fender with a little fiberglass and bondo.
Bondo is an excellent adhesive and with some more filling and sanding I'll have all the holes filled and the CB mount blended in prior to making a production mold.
 
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« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2007, 05:12:51 pm »
Once the production molds where finished I tried my hand at making carbon fiber fenders.
Here you'll see the rear fender is all laid up and vacuum bagged to press the laminate and squeeze out the excess resin.
This will make a lighter and stronger finished part.
 
Close inspection will reveal that this is paint grade carbon and not the show piece that the pros make, but it's incredibly light and strong.
With a little prep and paint I think it will be a perfect fender for the project.
 
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CB550F Cafe Project - Building a Seat
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2007, 12:46:33 am »
Although many Café style seats are available commercially, I couldn't find any that where made specifically for a CB550 and I wanted a Café seat that looked good on an unmodified stock frame.

My first attempt was made using a stock steel seat pan, but the proportions where all wrong, so I started from scratch.
The first step was making a seat pan from ABS plastic. ABS plastic is cheap, easy to shape (with the help of a heat gun) and can be glued or filled with bondo.
To get the basic shape of the hump, I used urethane foam available from commercial plastics suppliers.
You could also use the urethane foam insulation found at most Home Depot outlets. Then a little Bondo fill and lots of sanding.

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« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2007, 01:06:27 am »
Wow Jimmy, great work...I'm really impressed!

Keep those pics coming. :D
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« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2007, 04:59:19 pm »
Here's the final seat plug complete with half round ribs for a flex free seat.
Fiberglass mold finished and ready to produce seat bases.
As extra insurance in providing a firm platform I will use a combination of carbon fiber, Kevlar and glass in the lay-up.

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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2007, 09:00:43 am »
Checking the first carbon fiber seat for fitment.
If you look closely you will see the stock rubber bumpers for additional support.

 
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Re: CB550F Cafe Project - Works Rearsets
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2007, 08:37:46 am »
Damn Man! Could you be any more professional? ;D ;D
I'm a new guy to this forum but have recently acquired 2 550Ks, a 550F, and a CB200, all for $674. I can't wait to get started on rebuilding the F.
 Fwiw, I've been a Honda man at heart for all my life but haven't owned one since the CB700SC I bought brand new back in the day. I currently own 2 Kawasakis but am chomping at the bit to get started on the 550F.
 FJ, I salute and admire your work. Fabulous attention to detail, and Many Thanks for all your documentation. 8)
 Ever thought about moving down south? ;D ;D
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« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2008, 11:36:45 pm »
Made an alloy hinge and clasp.
The ¾” rare earth magnet with steel cup works like magic.
The steel cup increases the power of the rare earth magnet 4 times.
Now the seat snaps shut with a positive click, but can be pulled free with a firm tug.
No apparent stress to the fiberglass seat pan while lifting or sitting on the seat.
The magnetic closure also provides a solid and balanced base with the seat hinge. 

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CB550F Cafe Project - Phase I Complete!
« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2008, 11:37:40 pm »
I found this really cool high density closed cell foam at a local kayak shop.
This stuff is great cause it wont absorb water, can be sanded to shape and is firm.
 
Upholstered and ready for a fun summer of riding.
 

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