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Greetings! I'm new
« on: October 27, 2007, 07:43:18 AM »
Hi folks. I used to have a 400F before I knew they were "special". Got it in 1989 for $350 off a dealer who was moving. I loved riding that bike, but somehow got the stupid, wrongheaded idea that I needed a bigger bike. I wanted to keep the 400, but the old lady said "only one bike" so I traded it in on a 1981 CB750 in 1994. I eventually got to hate that bike because it had no heart or soul and sold it in 1996. I was without a motorcycle for the next 10 years until last fall. I got the bug again and started looking for a 400F. It was only then that I found out they were collectible and expensive. So I settled for a 1979 Kawasaki 650 SR because it was easy to get. It was nearby and ran decently. Well that bike is a lot like the CB750, it is bland and has no soul. I realized riding wasn't going to be fun again unless I found a bike that was fun to ride. So I spent the next 16 months trying to find a 400F that was decent and affordable. On ebay, I bid on plenty of bikes over that time, always coming a little short or stopping when the bidding went too high. This happened over and over again. A couple of months ago I finally got a 1977 400F with 11,000 miles on it for $1300. It has a perfect yellow tank, and the rest of it looked presentible. It ran rough so I took it to a local shop. They proceeded to ruin it. The mechanic was in over his head and apparently didn't believe in consulting shop manuals. I guess he was the type that liked to "wing" it. So now it starts up, idles at 6,000, smokes like a banshee and then quits after 20 seconds. They also burned out my headlight. For these "valuable services" they charged me $600. Very frustrated with this outcome, I went back to bidding on ebay again. Just last week I got another 1977 400F with 19,000 miles for $1100. I put in the first bid and on one else challenged it. I was the only bidder. Other than some relatively minor cosmetic flaws (clear coat coming off the tank in spots) the bike is very clean. The rims and fenders look new! It runs nicely and even after 17 years have gone by since I last rode a 400F, the connected riding experience the 400F delivers immedieately jogged my memory. All those little visceral riding feelings and details came flooding back in a tide of joyful recognition. The ride was so much fun that I was experiencing true elation. I was beside myself and felt an astounding happiness. We are talking about true love here. The moral of this story? If there is a bike you rode at any time in your life that was better than any of the others, get it!! Doesn't matter how much you spend, you have to go for it. In life we get disappointed by love, work, friends, family and so on. But with this, you can control the outcome. Don't buy something because it is easy to get, cheap, new or pretty. Find the bike that turns you on completely and do whatever you have to do to acquire it. In my case it was a journey of 20 years. When I started trying to find a 400 again, I was appalled to find they were collectible and expensive. It took 16 months and a mistake to get a good one. There are bargains to be found if you are persistant. Now I have a really nice bike and a back up parts bike. Probably not a bad approach, even though I came upon it by accident. I've learned my lesson though. Bigger is definately not better. It is a common thing to think you need a bigger bike, but as I learned the hard way, find a bike that fits you and stick with it. You will soon be a master rider with great confidence. You will have more fun and your riding will be safer too.

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2007, 07:55:33 AM »
Hi deefree, welcome to the forum... and welcome back to SOHC/4's  :)
That's quite a story...almost like looking for a good woman  :D, when you find a good one, hang on to her!

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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2007, 08:06:31 AM »
Hi deefree, welcome to the forum... and welcome back to SOHC/4's  :)
That's quite a story...almost like looking for a good woman  :D, when you find a good one, hang on to her!

 Matt.
Thanks Matt! A long first post for sure, but I appreciate you taking the time to read it all.  :)

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2007, 05:56:00 AM »
welcome from the uk  ;D ;D
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2007, 06:34:34 AM »
Welcome from Belgium.

Where are you located

deefree

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2007, 09:11:47 AM »
Welcome from Belgium.

Where are you located
Thank you for the welcome! I live in the United States...in the midwest. Columbus, Ohio...is in the middle of the state and is a pretty large city. There are some nice roads for riding, but they are all at least 10 kilometers from where I live. My sister lived in Belgium for 3 years in the 1970's. Her husband was stationed at a NATO base there. Where in Belgium are you located?

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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2007, 09:13:41 AM »
welcome from the uk  ;D ;D
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Thank you Steven!

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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2007, 12:28:49 PM »
Welcome from Belgium.

Where are you located
Thank you for the welcome! I live in the United States...in the midwest. Columbus, Ohio...is in the middle of the state and is a pretty large city. There are some nice roads for riding, but they are all at least 10 kilometers from where I live. My sister lived in Belgium for 3 years in the 1970's. Her husband was stationed at a NATO base there. Where in Belgium are you located?

I live in Diegem, small town near Brussels.

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2007, 01:01:30 PM »
Welcome! Glad you found your bike.  8)

Oh, and GO BUCKS!!!

(I had posted this earlier but a mod, who just happens to live in Ann Arbor, "accidentally" deleted it  ;) ;D ;D )
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2007, 01:15:45 PM »
Welcome! Glad you found your bike.  8)

Oh, and GO BUCKS!!!

(I had posted this earlier but a mod, who just happens to live in Ann Arbor, "accidentally" deleted it  ;) ;D ;D )

 ::) ;D

We'll see what happens on Nov. 17. ;)
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2007, 01:17:47 PM »
I’m also quite fond of my 400/4 and don’t feel the need for any other bike ;)..welcome and  do you have photos of your bike?

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2007, 07:20:19 PM »
I have photos of both of them, but they were just ebay shots I copied. I'm going to take some of my own soon and post them, hopefully by the weekend.

Everytime I ride that bike it makes me smile. Truthfully!

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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2007, 07:55:13 PM »
welcome.

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2007, 11:54:41 AM »
I have photos of both of them, but they were just ebay shots I copied. I'm going to take some of my own soon and post them, hopefully by the weekend.

Everytime I ride that bike it makes me smile. Truthfully!

I’ll look forward to seeing photos of your 400’s, I reckon the high price they sell for is a reflection of how great these bikes are to ride!

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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2007, 12:04:22 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2007, 12:37:32 PM »
Welcome from NY. All SOHCS are welcome here. Even the minibikes.  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2007, 08:01:35 AM »
Pics of my 2 '77 400F bikes. The yellow one has been put back to stock. (no longer a "cafe" racer)

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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2007, 10:30:33 AM »
Thanks for the photos, a pair of nice looking bikes! I also prefer the stock look on these bikes good to hear you've change the yellow one back to original condition. 

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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2007, 07:37:49 AM »
I agree. I think the stock look on that particular model definitely looks better. I tried to load one of the pictures showing how it appears now, but the file was too large. Actually, that little picture that is on all my posts shows how it looks now.

The best thing on the yellow bike is the tank. It looks almost new. The fenders aren't bad either. The rear rim has rust though. It also needs carb adjustment and one cylinder is 40 pounds less compression than the other 3. I might sell it, fix it up or keep it for parts.

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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2007, 10:57:29 AM »
I wish I could find a parts bike that looks like the yellow bike! I have a  blue 77 it's mostly original but I have changed a few things from stock because I couldn't buy new items or I found newer, better upgrades that I thought would improve the bike and help with maintenance.

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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2007, 07:38:10 AM »
I'm becoming more open to the idea of selling the yellow 400. If I was more mechanically inclined, it would be something to fix over the winter. The fact that I am dependant on others to do repairs is my own fault. I should have put the effort in over the years to get better at fixing my own bikes, but it was just one of those things that slipped through my hands. I wonder how much money would have been saved over the past 35 years if I did my own work...probably at least $10,000. There is someone in Columbus who might trade me a smaller working bike for the 400...but we are only in the preliminary talking stages.

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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2007, 09:21:55 AM »
It’s a shame you have to let the yellow bike go, I rebuilt my 400 engine it’s not as daunting as you may think. I think the guy who you trade bikes with if you decide to go that way is getting the better deal…..he's a lucky bugger!

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2007, 07:52:38 PM »
Wow! I got lost for a couple of weeks there. The link I saved for this site stopped working. Anyway, I've decided to keep both 400F bikes. I'm going to bite the bullet and get the yellow one working. You are right about these. They are getting to hard to find and at least I know what is going on with this one.
I'm glad you took the time to speak your mind about it. Thanks!

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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2007, 09:55:16 AM »
I think you’ve made a good decision to keep both bikes, get a good manual and some basic tools and go for it..... Keep us posted on your progress when you get time.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2007, 04:15:51 PM »
Well I've gone and done something nutty. I added another bike to my "stable", this one is a 1975 Honda 200T. I'm going to teach my girlfriend how to ride and it should be a nice and easy bike to learn on. If she doesn't take to it, it still will be a fun bike to putter around town with.