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Here's the photo gallery for the bikes that are currently at the Tokyo motor show: http://www.tokyo-motorshow.com/show/2007/eng/public/gallery/photo/50_040_Honda/index001.html
http://www.honda.co.jp/motorshow/motor/lineup/index.html

Feel free to check it out.  Looks like Honda is bringing retro back in the way of the

1.  CB223S


2.  CB400SS



3.  CB1100F


4.  CB1100R


5.  CB1300 SUPER BOL D'OR (based on the CB1300 Super Four)


6.  CB400 SUPER BOL D‘OR (Based on the CB400 SUPER FOUR)


7.  CB750 SPECIAL






Movie:
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Here is an owners manual to the 750 (in Japanese) http://www.honda.co.jp/manual-motor/cb750/pdf/2008-cb750-all.pdf


Here is the Honda Tokyo Motor Show CB series line up:

Here is a link to the lineup: http://www.honda.co.jp/motorshow/motor/lineup/index.html

The lineup features the CB1100F, CB1100R, CB1300 Super Bol D'or, CB1300 Super Four, CB750 Special, CB400 Super Bol D'or Hyper VTEC (ABS), CB400 Super Four Hyper VTEC (ABS), CB400SS Special Edition, CB223S



I guess the "new" CB750 that replicated the '69 CB750 was a rumor....
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2007, 12:07:04 PM »
meanwhile... Triumph introduces another cafe racer.....  http://www.tokyo-motorshow.com/show/2007/eng/public/gallery/photo/60_020_Triumph/006.html




Suzuki is even getting on the retro band wagon:


booo Honda
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2007, 01:09:29 PM »
We have Thruxtons here already:



That 1100 looks nice.
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2007, 02:06:08 PM »
That 1100 looks nice.

  Agreed. Hope we get them here in the States. If so, I might be tempted to get a bike that's not at least 30 years old ;) :)
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2007, 02:18:06 PM »
Might not be 30 years old but certainly has 80 looks. They are very nice though. I like them much better than most of what we have here.

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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2007, 02:29:57 PM »
I would have the 1100, really looks the business and in Honda Britain colours. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2007, 05:17:05 PM »
Yeah, that 1100F looks freekin cool.
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2007, 05:32:59 PM »
Man, I am terribly disappointed that the rumor of a CB750 was only a rumor... but I have to agree with you guys about the 1100F.  Wonder how tall it will be, and if I should start saving my pennies...  Normally, I wouldn't want a new bike, but I had started taking it into consideration when there was a rumor of a CB750... but now I am kind of thinking about that 1100F.

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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2007, 12:25:00 AM »
One word of caution.

I don't know what the emission are like in Japan, but last year Suzuki ditched the GSX1400 here and watercooled/FI'd the Bandit to meet the new 2008 Euro laws.

Looks like there's no place for big, air cooled bikes any more.
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2007, 05:49:04 AM »
Both SUPER BOL D'OR's have some serious first gen interceptor influcences to them..especially the 400...me likes
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2007, 01:54:34 PM »
we wont get it,we never get the good bikes.
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2007, 02:15:37 PM »
from the view the 1100 looks good
my heart is broken about the 750
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2007, 01:12:06 PM »


       The new bikes look pretty decent. The 1100F looked pretty good too, though I couldn't see why it was drawing as much response until I looked into the link and saw the frontal shot of it with it's exhaust similar to the old 400F. 8) ;) That just sets it off 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
I tried to post that particular shot, without success. :-\

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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2007, 10:48:32 AM »


       The new bikes look pretty decent. The 1100F looked pretty good too, though I couldn't see why it was drawing as much response until I looked into the link and saw the frontal shot of it with it's exhaust similar to the old 400F. 8) ;) That just sets it off 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
I tried to post that particular shot, without success. :-\

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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2007, 11:41:39 AM »

   



       Yep, That's it! 8) Thanks, I've been getting better at posting my own pictures, but couldn't seem to do this one. ::) About the main thing wrong with with this picture is, I don't have it out on a twisty stretch of highway putting it through the paces! ;D

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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2007, 12:58:43 PM »
Would have thought Yamaha would give us look at the VMAX 08 makeover.

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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2007, 02:08:45 PM »


         Hope, You know that the video just makes me want one more , don't you? :-\ ::) Like I could afford one IF it is available in the U.S. Even thought I'm liking the 4 into 1, I kinda wish they'd have cleaned up the muffler part of it a bit better. Thanks for posting the link to the video. ;)

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Both SUPER BOL D'OR's have some serious first gen interceptor influcences to them..especially the 400...me likes

I'm likin' 400's also.  The retro faring and colors are neat.  And a water cooled, 16 valve small four with a 13k redline must sound sweet.  Imagine what it would sound like after some mods.
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Re: There isn't a 750 at the Tokyo Motor Show
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2007, 02:05:31 PM »
I would have the 1100, really looks the business and in Honda Britain colours. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

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Sorry Sam, those are the States colors.  And where did you learn to spell? ;)

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For the admirers of the CB1100R & CB1100F, I thought you might be interested to know that the editor in chief of the Cycle World, David Edwards, magazine has written a letter to Honda asking them to make these bikes and send them to the US.  I have scanned the letter for your viewing pleasure: (click the link below)
http://hmwebdesigns.info/images/cycleworld.pdf

I have extracted the text of the letter here:
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CYCLE WORLD
Dear Honda…
I WRITE THIS LETTER NOT AS EDITOR-IN-Chief of the world’s largest-circulation monthly motorcycle magazine. Rather, please take it as a note from a concerned long-time Honda owner.
   First, a decades-overdue thank you for introducing me to what is well on the way to a lifetime of streetbike riding. When I was 15, having graduated from a series of small dirtbikes, I purchased a pampered, one-year-old 1970 CB 175; to my eyes then and now a beautiful, crisply styled machine made even more so by its deep’ candy-orange paint and sweeping chrome exhaust pipes.
   I was an interminable six months short of having my driver’s permit, but the previous owner, a Navy man departing for a tour of duty in the waters off Vietnam, did me a huge favor by leaving his paid-up license tag in place. The bike was street-legal, even if I wasn’t.
   My weekend routine was to push the CB to the woods at the end of our street, telling my folks I was going “trail riding,” then link up with asphalt on the other side of the trees. From there, I had access to hundreds of miles of rural Maryland back-roads. Lightly trafficked and patrolled, thankfully.
   Armed with a teenager’s sense of immortality I learned how to drag the centerstand in corners, then the footpegs, then the mufflers. I learned that a 20-horsepower ohc Twin would do an indicated 90 mph, but only if you used the passenger pegs and crouched low like the leather-clads in the magazines.  Downhill straights were bliss, God’s own nitrous-injection.
On the way back home through the forest, I made sure to splash some mud on the pristine 175 to keep up the frail-riding ruse. I then made a big production of washing it every Sunday afternoon. Polishing the tank was always the highlight; dollops of paste wax laid on and swirled around by hand so as to not risk grit or hardened wax on the applicator pad scratching the paint. Besides, my practiced fingers knew to keep wax off the rubber knee pads and out of the enameled Honda wing badge. To this day, 36 years later, I can still feel the shapes and creases and angles of that gas tank. An old soft T-shirt, washed 1000 times put the final buff on the tank, which seemed to glow orange from within in the setting sunlight.
After becoming legal and outgrowing the 175, next came a CB350, only the most popular bike in the tworld in the mid- I 970s. Put 30,000 good miles on that one. When at age 19, I decided to drop out of aerospace-engineering school and become the next Marty Smith, a 1975 CR125 Elsinore was my weapon of choice.  A 10 percent discount on parts at Ken Dixon Honda was as close as I ever got to a factory contract, but that little bike gave me one of my most vivid, almost transcendental motorcycle memories.
   Lined up for the first moto at a Virginia track. I was suddenly overcome by a deep calmness. When the rubber startline band flew, everything clicked into slow motion, my vision narrowed to a tunnel ahead, every rock, pebble and dirt clod in super-sharp focus. Bumps went unfelt, whoops were wheelied through with ease, every berm cradled my wheels and caromed me ahead. It was as if there were no other bikes on the track that day. I remember my brother Kevin trackside, big smile plastered, arms outstretched as far as they could go, indicating my lead.
   Years later, I purchased an old 1970 CB750 K0 and rode it from Illinois to California along the remains of Route 66 for a Cycle World feature. Afterward I had it restored, and was immensely honored in 1998 when you Honda folks asked if you could borrow it for your 50th-anniversary festivities in New York City. I was in the audience beaming proudly when it was ridden up onto the stage at Radio City Music Hall.
   Looking back, I’ve almost never been without a Honda. Still own the K Zero, parked in my garage between a magnificent, low-mileage 1982 CBX Six sport-tourer once part of the late Dave Mungenast’s collection and an absolute deathtrap of a CB350 chopper (not your fault).
   As a fan of the brand, then, I was a little dismayed to see -your 2008-model line-up. All due respect, but other than the potent new CBR1000RR (see page 52) nicely bookending your class-leading CBR600RR, where’s the excitement?  New saddlebags for the 1300 don’t exactly ignite a fireworks display of July Fourth dimensions over your VTX cruisers. No adventure-bikes, even though Europe gets a tasty new revamp on the V-Twin Transalp. And with the demise of the 919, no standard-style bike?! From the company that ushered in the era of the across-the-frame inline-Four?
   But just as that was digesting poorly, you let advance photos of three Tokyo
Motor Show concept bikes loose on the Internet, the (top to bottom) Evo 6, a modern roadster powered by the Gold Wing’s pancake-Six, the CB1 100R, an homage to the factory RCB 1000 endurance racers, and the CB1 100F, a retro café-racer.
   Faith restored.
   It’s the latter, the 1100F, that speaks to me loudest, if only because it looks so close to production. The tranverse-Four is your engine, your heritage, and here it is in air-cooled glory, no radiator or water hoses mucking up the view. And look what’s on display! A wavy-gravy array of four header pipes, a la the old CB400F, terminating in a proper megaphone-style muffler. To many of us, that is what an exhaust system should look like. Extrapolating, this is what a motorcycle should look like, too.
   Build that bike, Honda. Make mine candy-orange if you please...

Do you think that if individuals start putting enough pressure on Honda that they will release the 1100F to the US?  If so, I might make an online petition or a form letter you can print out and mail to them.  Maybe the editor in chief of Cycle World is on to something.


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I want one.
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One of those 400's would be nice, and that 1100R....
The chance I would see either at my local dealership....... I would (sadly) say very slim.


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