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Re: Check the oil? And resurrection notes.
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2007, 02:57:05 PM »
TT,

Best thing you can do to those King/Queen seats is to take a shot gun to them. ;) NOT ON A F, please! Save them for a K. Speaking of which I just saw a nice Antares 75 K with a K/Q for sale.

I have a NOS set of black seat trim for a 77/78 F that I may not use. Ideally I would like to trade these for a Flake Sunrise Orange set. They actually came with the NOS seat for a 77/78F I'm hoarding. Now, if someone was to come up with a NOS seat for a 75 that had the orange trim I could just swap it all out and we'd all in perfect shape.

Anyway, it sounds like you're making some good progress. keep at it.

 

 
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« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2007, 04:12:43 PM »
   It can't be done, Lloyd. Your only option is to put them on permanent loan to a fellow enthusiast nearby. Now, who here is close to Fremont.....hmmmmmm. ::) ;D
I suspect you'd neglect the 550's even more than I do. ;D

   How's the header look on your stock exhaust? I've got a couple hanging in the garage next to the seat.

Apart from some discoloration up near the head, the header looks pretty darn good.  Couple of stone nicks here and there.  It's cleaning up nicely, I think.

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« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2007, 04:27:01 PM »
Resurrection??  That's a nice looking bike!
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« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2007, 05:34:55 PM »
Resurrection??  That's a nice looking bike!

Yeah, no kidding.
Looks better that my mostly original '75F looks today.
Must have something to do with that dry California air.


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« Reply #54 on: November 10, 2007, 09:39:48 AM »
Thanks guys, 
While it IS looking better as I apply elbow grease.  I kinda tricked the eyes with photo technique.  The low angle avoided the sun weathered bits.  And, the distance from subject doesn't let the corrosion details become prominent.  Plus, I put on the shiny new side cover for the photo op. ;D

The fin paint has obvious corrosion ALL over the black paint.
The seat pan has rusted completely through on the left side.  And, the seat cover, well, what is left of it is in really bad shape.
The frame and Swing arm have numerous rust specs.  At first, I thought I might be able to touch them up.  But, if you touch up more than 50% of the frame.... ::)  What shade of black matches Honda's 30 year old faded black paints?
Much of the front fork black paint has migrated to parts unknown.  The bike is clearly weathered.  Even the chrome bits have tiny specs in them when you get close.  It will likely never be better than a 10 foot bike.  But, that's okay with me.  I plan to ride this bike, not display it in a museum.

I noticed that the chain guard has been welded at the back end of it.  Looks like there were two splits about the width of the chain running four of five inches from the back edge.  Thrown 630 chain?
I'm not looking forward to inspecting the front sprocket area. :'(

Maybe it un-spooled from the back sprocket instead of wadding up in the front sprocket area?  At least it is not leaking oil.  :-\

It's like a box of chocolates.  You never know what you are going to get!

Hey Sean, got any headlight pieces?

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« Reply #55 on: November 10, 2007, 10:28:17 AM »
Hey Sean, got any headlight pieces?

  Serge in Davis got those a couple years back, all I've got left are some ears that were painted over w/flat black paint. I've got a couple pairs of forks and lowers though. Some good front master stuff for rebuild(I rebuilt a front master that didn't need it and held on to the parts I replaced, everything but the rubber shroud that protects the end), new rear master kit still in package, and just a garage full of F2 stuff that I haven't gone through in a while. As long as you're building it to ride, I'm sure it would be worth the trip if you want to come over and look through stuff. All the really good stuff went on my "Daily Rider" restore, and some got sent to other members, but I've had 2 1/2 F2's in my garage so there's plenty of stuff left.
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« Reply #56 on: November 10, 2007, 11:35:10 AM »
Wow looking very nice Llyod! Im really enjoying this thread!

Jerry - how much for that Antares red 750? Im thinking about buying a bike in your neck of the woods and coming out for a Ride the Mountains trip next year....just a thought at the moment....

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« Reply #57 on: November 10, 2007, 11:42:20 AM »
I doubt any stock honda frames you find had king & queen seats..unless they had a backrest that was part of it..

The seats I keep seeing referred to as such have been double-bucket touring seats.

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« Reply #58 on: November 10, 2007, 02:55:13 PM »
Very nice indeed TT, you've inspired me to finish my F2 and get it on the road! (plus my oldest son is nagging me as he wants it) Sean's lucky that I don't live closer, I'd strip all his 750/4 spares like a big loud mouthed Aussie locust, ha ha! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2007, 03:36:44 PM »
Very nice indeed TT, you've inspired me to finish my F2 and get it on the road! (plus my oldest son is nagging me as he wants it) Sean's lucky that I don't live closer, I'd strip all his 750/4 spares like a big loud mouthed Aussie locust, ha ha! Cheers, Terry. ;D

   Is that why I have nightmares of mealy bugs eating at my spares ???  :D  Easy Fido, yer bug food will be there soon ;D
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« Reply #60 on: November 10, 2007, 03:40:33 PM »
Woohoo! I'm starving............... ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2007, 03:58:09 PM »
Wow looking very nice Llyod! Im really enjoying this thread!

Jerry - how much for that Antares red 750? Im thinking about buying a bike in your neck of the woods and coming out for a Ride the Mountains trip next year....just a thought at the moment....

cheers
Andy

Andy,

Not sure. I was afraid to ask  ;). Didn't have a price posted. Thought I'd better get the hell outta there before I needed someone to drive the car home. (had the knee scoped 2 days before). They had quite a few bikes there and seemed reasonably priced. I went to pick up the 2 NOS lower fork legs for my F I got on EBay for $102. Sweet deal for them and they are perfect! The K was really nice. I didn't go over it closely but the paint and chrome all seemed nice. Good tires, etc. Funny thing is these guys also own a shop in the UK and they ship containers of bikes over and fill it with parts and EBay orders. Steele's Cycles in Englewood. Look them up and give a call. I'm sure we could hold onto it until you get here. You'll only need a one way ticket because there is no way you'd leave it. OR come out for skiing if you need an excuse and pick up the bike. My wife might piss and moan about another bike in the garage but she'd get over it. I can only squeeze one more in without putting the old mower outside but I'd like a new Honda mower anyway!
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« Reply #62 on: November 11, 2007, 08:37:58 AM »
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I'm going to need a headlight, fork ears, and turn sigs.. 

 Have been through that search, the signals should be easy, the other pieces are more model specific. In case you haven't looked yet, here is my list of years/bikes that use the same parts. I believe this is correct but you might want to check to be sure.

 Front signal lights - cb400F  75-77
                            cb500T  75-76
                            cb550F  75-77
                            cb550K  75-77
                            cb750A  76-79
                            cb750F  75-78
                            cb750K  75-78
                            cb900C  80-82
                            cx500    79
                            cx500C  79-82
                            cx500D  79-81
                            goldwing 75-78
 
Headlight assembly- cb550K  78
                            cb750A  77-78
                            cb750F  77-78
                            cb750K  77-78

Fork ears (shrouds)- cb750F  77-78

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« Reply #63 on: November 11, 2007, 08:39:21 AM »
   Here's a new seat for you Lloyd...if you're crazy AND have plenty of $$$.  ;D ;D The "buy it now price" is half what I paid for my bike 11 years ago.  :o :o :o It's probably very nice but I wouldn't want it on a daily rider. Actually at that price I wouldn't want it at all.

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« Reply #64 on: November 11, 2007, 03:24:37 PM »
$82 for shipping a seat!! Does it get its own seat on a plane?  :-\

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« Reply #65 on: November 11, 2007, 05:00:13 PM »
Have been through that search, the signals should be easy, the other pieces are more model specific. In case you haven't looked yet, here is my list of years/bikes that use the same parts. I believe this is correct but you might want to check to be sure.

Thanks UL,
I can easily believe your list.  Looks pretty thorough.  I wonder if the rubber isolation rings for the fork ears, are difficult to find?  All in good time.

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« Reply #66 on: November 11, 2007, 05:23:58 PM »
   Here's a new seat for you Lloyd...if you're crazy AND have plenty of $$$.  ;D ;D The "buy it now price" is half what I paid for my bike 11 years ago.  :o :o :o It's probably very nice but I wouldn't want it on a daily rider. Actually at that price I wouldn't want it at all.

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I actually have a new in the box seat for the 77 750F from Honda that I purchased new 1997. I found the receipt! List price was $313 and I paid $250 for it with my discount of that era.  So, the starting bid isn't THAT bad, I suppose.  ::)
 My problem is, I have three restore-able bikes that can use it.  Apart from the good double bucket seat, the other two need a seat cover, and a pan/cover/foam and paint for the other.

Thanks for the pointer though.

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« Reply #67 on: November 11, 2007, 05:33:20 PM »
Very nice indeed TT, you've inspired me to finish my F2 and get it on the road! (plus my oldest son is nagging me as he wants it)

Thanks Terry!
I don't suppose he's offered to help get it finished! ;D  Hasn't he inherited your genius at things mechanical?

Anyway, it's just a small matter of time, right?  Of which, you have copious amount of it to spare.  Kind like the rest of us. :D

If I recall, isn't there an engine swapage involved with yours?  I think I'm gonna be able to avoid that with my latest adoption.  For now, anyway. ;)

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« Reply #68 on: November 11, 2007, 05:56:14 PM »
I've got a 78F headlight bucked in great shape.  No chrome bezel though. 

I bought it a while back for my 78 F when I was determined to take off my Windjammer fairing.

Now I have different plans and could part with this one.  PM me if you're interested.

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« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2007, 12:19:50 AM »
Very nice indeed TT, you've inspired me to finish my F2 and get it on the road! (plus my oldest son is nagging me as he wants it)

Thanks Terry!
I don't suppose he's offered to help get it finished! ;D  Hasn't he inherited your genius at things mechanical?

Anyway, it's just a small matter of time, right?  Of which, you have copious amount of it to spare.  Kind like the rest of us. :D

If I recall, isn't there an engine swapage involved with yours?  I think I'm gonna be able to avoid that with my latest adoption.  For now, anyway. ;)

Cheers,



Yeah mate, he's learned that the only way I'll get time to do things he wants is if he helps me, and now he's got a good job, he's actually offering to pay for any parts I might need? Incredible!

I have to pull the engine out again, strip it to the bare cases, and reseal them. I used a "Loctite" product but either I didn't use enough (I get a bit edgy about using lots of sealant in these engines) or it was no damn good, and oil seeped between the cases around the ignition side crank seal.

No matter, I'm gonna install a K6 head while I'm at it and repaint the cases where the "Fuel Set" fuel additive ate the VHT engine enamel three months after I painted it, that stuff is deadly! Here's a pic, on it's ill-fated maiden voyage back in May 2004. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2007, 10:44:43 PM »
No matter, I'm gonna install a K6 head while I'm at it and repaint the cases where the "Fuel Set" fuel additive ate the VHT engine enamel three months after I painted it, that stuff is deadly! Here's a pic, on it's ill-fated maiden voyage back in May 2004. Cheers, Terry. ;D

Terry, I've heard you say these bikes were ugly.  But, I just don't see that.  And, yours looks might pretty in that pic.  I suppose it's a beholder thing...

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« Reply #71 on: December 08, 2007, 02:15:41 AM »
No, the F/F1 were a tad "homely" TT, but the black engined babes are sweet! (with all their faults) How's you're going now? I'm gonna pull my engine out, and be back on the road with no more oil leaks by this time next month! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #72 on: December 08, 2007, 02:23:00 AM »
(This turned out to be more of a diary and got longer than I expected.  :o  If you bore easily, just skip it, as you won't miss much except practice at reading.)  ;D

So, yesterday, I get the word that the engine and frame numbers have to be verified by some peace officer or DMV official, as the bike hasn't been registered since 1985, and is no longer in the CA DMV records.
This means I have to take the bike out on the roads before I have a chance to go through and make it all nice street worthy proper.  And, I'm going out of town for two weeks beginning Monday!  So, now I have about 6 hours to make it street legal for the CHP officer to look at.  ::)  AND, hope it stops raining long enough to get there and back.

Last night I slather PJ-1 lube on the dry rusty chain, I'd really rather replace.  Can't hurt with lube, though.  Set points and reset static timing, noting 11-4 were advanced quite far, which probably explains their discolored head pipes.  Cleaned the plugs, found #2 spark plug cap was open and borrowed that one from the 78 (must order a new one, I keep losing those mental notes).

Turn on gas and it slowly leaves a puddle under the bike.  Bike sort of wants to run, but won't stay running without th starter motor engaged.  Switch to reserve and bike starts right away. DOH! (Must put some more gas in that tank.)
The bike does run a little better, but idle is still not smooth, head pipes uneven temp, and throttle response poor.  Okay, off come the carbs.  Number one overflow tube has gas in it, I notice.
I stick the carb bank in the vise with padded jaws, and remove number one bowl.  It's only a quarter full!  Then I notice a crack in the stand pipe. Do I rob a bowl from another bike or patch this one?  Maybe I can solder up that crack.  Clean the brass bright, a bit of acid core solder and a large mass solder tip on the Weller iron, and wadya know no more crack.  Time will tell about durability, I suppose. 
Since the carbs are off, remove other bowls to find all the rest at nice fuel levels.  Number two bowl has the accelerator pump, and with the bowl full, I give it push. Was that a dribble? I'd rub my eyes if they weren't covered with gas.  Take the pump apart and the diaphram is supposed to have two holes in the little mickey mouse ear like bumps at the perimeter.  But, I can't see light through them.  Both the check valves in pump body and bowl body seem to be working.  Let's drill out the mouse ears.
Done. Reassemble the pump to the bowl, fill it with gas and push on the pump plunger.  Air bubbles. Push again, less bubbles and a dribble.  Push again.  Set down bowl, clean glasses, and blot scalp with rag. Yep that's working pretty good now!  I decide to yank all the slows and verify all the slow passages.  Of note, I found THE perfect tool for press in slow jet removal.  Its called parallel pliers.  They look like these.
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They contact the jet body along its entire length on both sides, and leave NO chew marks.
With the carbs clean and reassembled, I put them back on the nice soft carb couplers.  I also install nice new air box rubber couplers, too. I put the gas tank back on, set it too reserve, and wait for carbs to fill.    Hmm, no puddles. :)
Hit the button and starts right up.  Cold blooded D8ea plugs needs warm up.  Gonna have to get D7s if I operate much in cold weather. No time for that today though.  Throttle is really good.  Wish I had time for cam chain tension adjust, a carb sync, but what would be the point without a valve adjustment first.  Oh well, it runs good enough to get me the 10 or so miles there and back, I reckon.
I've got time (yeah, right).  I'll put on the new in box seat to treat my sorry butt on this short trip.  Actually, it bolts right on in very little time, and makes a nice improvement in appearance, to boot.

"Yes, officer come look at my bike I'm riding on the the streets , and just ignore the no head light or turn signals issue, trust me, I'll fix that."  "Um, what's that extra paper your writing on there?"

Right.  Better put on a headlight. But, no fork ears.  I decide to put the vetter-like fairing back on it as it also has the turn signals built in and wiring, as ratty as it is, is set up for it anyway.  Will have to rob a head light from another bike, as this fairing is missing that. 
Well, it sounded simple.  But, the fairing mount is somehow twisted.  I'll have to compensate with a stack of washers for now. Front sigs come on now, don't blink.  Well, no rear sigs yet maybe that's why.  Go find a headlight from the fairing I got with the CX500.  Plug in and nothing. Switching hi/lo through several cylces and High beam starts working.  10-15 more cycles and low beam work, too.  Good enough for now, will have to overhaul the switch (and all electrical connections likely) in the future. Mounting the headlight finds stripped screw threads.  Must rummage through screw stock to find something that works.  Not elegant, but works.  Okay, front lighting done.
Rear turn sigs were supplanted with lights at rear of hard saddle bags.  So, I put those back on the bike, too.  I actually like the hard bags.  They need paint, though.  Shame they block the seat from hinging up.  Engineering for another day.
The red lens for the bag's light was stored inside leaving the bulb and socket exposed to rain water.  But, it actually works after cleaning things up a bit.  They don't blink on either side though.  Time to "borrow" a flasher from another bike.
I finally get the side cover off the very hard frame grommets after a shot of WD-40.  Without breaking the left side cover! yay!  Replace flasher and now all lighting works.  I'm ready to go.  But wait, the broken windshield!  There was a brand new windshield in a box with bike when I got it.  There's time to put it on. Well, this was time wasted.  Turns out this fairing is Vetter-like and the spare windshield was for a bona fide Vetter.  Curvature is wrong and the mount holes don't align.  So, I just remove the broken one.  Good to have a nice riding jacket and full face helmet.
Add a gallon of gas that was destined for the lawn mower.

Suit up, Start up, and head out.  It's about 4 oclock, CHP office closes at 5PM.  I could make it if I don't have a break down, I think.  As I get get about a mile or two down the road, I recall the tool kit is still sitting on my work bench in the garage.  I comfort myself with the fact that I have a cell phone on my belt.  Now it's time to get on the freeway with this bike for the first time (20 year old tires and a rusty chain).  Even before this ,I note that the engine is running much better than my initial 4 mile, sub 40MPH, drive home after first pickup.
Getting on the freeway, the bike has pep, I note.  The engine winds up well, but there is vibration I don't like.  Chain maybe?  Things rattle and buzz all over the bike., Jeesh.  No time to investigate that now.  Engine kind of surges at freeway speeds 4K on Tach.  THE STEERING IS BENT.  Forks twisted?  Bars and triple tree cocked off center.  When I get to the fork seals, I have to figure that out.
Time to get off freeway.  Very little engine breaking.  Idles at 3K RPM.  What?  The choke is still on?  Well, if it's not warmed up now...smash the choke knob in.  Still idles at 3K!  At the light I try to reach the idle knob with the Bates gauntlets still on. I can do this at will on my 550's.  But, the light goes green in rush hour traffic before I get a clue on this bike.  Next red light the glove comes off, the knob is found and the idle comes down quickly to 1500.  Still running pretty good, throttle response very nice.  1000 RPM a bit lumpy, and there are noises I don't like.  Cam chain tension? Carb balance? 1100-1200 sound pretty good, for now.  Light goes green.  Dang, bike is going pretty good.  Dusk is setting in.  Oh swell, I'm being speed matched with a black and white in the lane to my right. Yes, I've got an 85 sticker on my plate.  Great, all this work, just to be delayed by a police check 5 blocks from the CHP office, til about 5:05 PM.
But, no, a couple more blocks and he pulls ahead.  And, it's time to make the final turn toward CHP.  Three more blocks and I'm there.

I finally decided that most of the people behind the glass at a the CHP office were simply stunned to hear english with an American accent.  Either that or me leaving my helmet on was very disorienting to them.  It was as though they had never before seen the official vehicle verification form I handed them through the slot in the glass.  After several dumb looks at me and no less than three other office personnel, a real CHP officer took the form from them,  And, without a word, brought out a brand new form identical to the one on a clip board and headed for the door.  After about 10 minutes of number scrutiny and form scribbling, he handed the form to me and said, "that's it".  He got much friendlier after I took my helmet off, I note.  Mission accomplished.  Now to get home.

Bike starts much easier.  Still have some getting used to the taller bike and the higher CG, compared to the 550's (Or, the 700SC).  Can't do flat foot maneuvers in the parking lot.  And, I don't tip toe with much apparent grace.  Once moving, the bike wields nicely.
I'll take a different route home on back streets as the freeway is jammed this time of day in the direction I have to go.  I'll turn at this light. Oh no, engine losing power. Dying.  Dead.  And, things were going so well.  Not blocking traffic, so no need to panic.  Analyze. Lights are still on. Hmm, maybe I should turn the gas back on?  Wonder why the petcock routine doesn't transfer from 550 to 750?  THAT part should transfer exactly.  On the drive back home, I notice the bike is steadily improving it's state of operational comfort.  It seems to handle more nimbly, and the engine is becoming more responsive, energetic, and eager to get up and go.  I'm amazed and quite pleased.  It's gaining my confidence well before I have any right to expect it.
There's no doubt more needs to be done to this bike.  But, I'm very encouraged with its response to attention, so far.  I think it's going to be a very nice bike in the not too distant future.

I wonder if it will tell me it's name soon...

Cheers,









Lloyd... (SOHC4 #11 Original Mail List)
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Re: 77 CB750 F resurrection notes. (update)
« Reply #73 on: December 08, 2007, 02:25:22 AM »
No, the F/F1 were a tad "homely" TT, but the black engined babes are sweet! (with all their faults) How's you're going now? I'm gonna pull my engine out, and be back on the road with no more oil leaks by this time next month! Cheers, Terry. ;D
I think mine's doing better than I have a right to expect.  I think it likes me!  Could be all that fondling... if you know what I mean.  ;D

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Re: 77 CB750 F resurrection notes. (update)
« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2007, 04:03:24 AM »
Well done TT, it's always a little unnerving taking a bike that's been sitting for a long time on it's "maiden voyage", particularly if you've got an appointment to keep, and I've also done the "Oh that's right, I left my toolkit on the workbench" routine, ha ha!

I'm on vacation now until January the 14th, so high on my list of priorities is getting my F2 sorted and put some miles under those (as new, but now flat) Bridgestone BT45's I bought for it back in '04, ha ha! I was going to give it to my oldest son for Christmas, but a good friends son was killed last Friday on his motorcycle, so I'm none too keen to risk that right now. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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