Topic: Young guys dont know how GOOD they got it!!

[turin39789]

The real issue is that with refrencing this forum, you don't always get the hands on, figure it out yourself problem solving that builds good mechanical skills.
Hands on learning is now hands "told what to do" learning which isn't learning at all.

 Matt.

A man will be able to eat if you catch him a fish.
Teach him how to fish, and he will eat a lifetime.


l8r

Build a man a fire and he will be warm for a night.
Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

[Terry in Australia]

A man will be able to eat if you catch him a fish.
Teach him how to fish, and he will eat a lifetime.


l8r
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Build a man a fire and he will be warm for a night.
Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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Ha ha, I think I just wet myself!

[Sam Green Racing]

Did it put the fire out Terry ?

[turin39789]

Did it put the fire out Terry ?

 

[paulages]

Still, even here in sohc4, sometimes I get the feeling that some people post a problem first rather than try and find a solution by themselves. I think they miss out a big chance to learn by actually doing and trying stuff.

TG

i agree. i know i've been guilty of just that--and half of the time ended up solving my own problem before i even got a response.. 

[Terry in Australia]

Did it put the fire out Terry ?

Hell yeah!

[motomotard]

When I got my '48 Indian in '68 -- the seller said "and don't bring it back".
I had no info on anything.
Eventually found a guy at a paint store in
Ventura, Cal. who raced a '35 Indian Scout at Ascot Park down in L.A.
He gave me a few bits of his wisdom and I got the Chief running like a top !

what did you pay for that in 68' ?

[kpier883]

I remember using that new fangled contraption called BOOKS. Much of what I learned in regard to theory and practice was acquired through reading. I'm talking G. Jennings, A. Graham Bell, Vizard, Smokey Yunick etc,etc,etc. Hands on is always great BUT reading is the other half of the equation in my mind. The reading part will at least give you the balls to try something new.....like cam timing etc.

Wasn't it Smokey Yunick that said "get some longer rods and go out and win some races"?  Anyone tested that theory with motorcycles?  I don't know about cb750 rods, but KZ1000 rods before 1980 are 1.2 mm longer than KZ1000 J rods.  I have been wondering if one could use early rods on a J motor and add a 1.2mm spacer between the barrels and the base. 

What do you think?

[kpier883]

I seem to know how to kill a thread...

[MRieck]

I seem to know how to kill a thread...

No...Smokey did speak long and hard about extra dwell time concerning rod length. A lot of that has been rebuked THOUGH it is sound practice on older style engines. So....you are correct.

[turin39789]

Well at first when I saw this I though, Uh oh, here we go again, more "kids of today got it easy" bashing, but I do agree that this forum is an incredible way to attain knowledge, fast.

As far as the "you don't always get the hands on, figure it out yourself problem solving that builds good mechanical skills" theory goes, maybe that's a consideration, but from experience, we ask these questions when we're at our wits end, and we've exhausted our own mechanical knowledge, and we've learned from previous misery, how expensive it can become when we don't ask questions, and then we stuff something up, so we (wisely) stop and wait for a reply.

The benefit of this forum is that there are some great guys here just dying to share their knowledge and experience, and I can say that they've certainly saved me many dollars in ruined parts, and many hours of swearing at an inanimate object.

So to answer the original "Young Guys don't know how GOOD they've got it" post, sure, young guys who don't remember a time before the "Information Super highway" may not appreciate it as much as we do, but we all benefit from it! Cheers, Terry.

Terry
 I remember using that new fangled contraption called BOOKS. Much of what I learned in regard to theory and practice was acquired through reading. I'm talking G. Jennings, A. Graham Bell, Vizard, Smokey Yunick etc,etc,etc. Hands on is always great BUT reading is the other half of the equation in my mind. The reading part will at least give you the balls to try something new.....like cam timing etc.

Recommended Reading?

[Terry in Australia]

I've mastered cam timing now, so I don't need no steenking books!

[MRieck]

I've mastered cam timing now, so I don't need no steenking books!

Well look at the big brain on Terry now.

[gerhed]

When I got my '48 Indian in '68 -- the seller said "and don't bring it back".
I had no info on anything.
Eventually found a guy at a paint store in
Ventura, Cal. who raced a '35 Indian Scout at Ascot Park down in L.A.
He gave me a few bits of his wisdom and I got the Chief running like a top !

what did you pay for that in 68' ?

$250 and I got out of there quick

[Terry in Australia]

I've mastered cam timing now, so I don't need no steenking books!

Well look at the big brain on Terry now.

Well, I did get some help from the master................ Hey Mike, have you got any "Heads by Mike" baseball caps? If you do, I need an extra, extra, extra large! 

[MRieck]

I've mastered cam timing now, so I don't need no steenking books!

Well look at the big brain on Terry now.

Well, I did get some help from the master................ Hey Mike, have you got any "Heads by Mike" baseball caps? If you do, I need an extra, extra, extra large! 

I've got a laundry basket I can logo.....

[Terry in Australia]

I've mastered cam timing now, so I don't need no steenking books!

Well look at the big brain on Terry now.

Well, I did get some help from the master................ Hey Mike, have you got any "Heads by Mike" baseball caps? If you do, I need an extra, extra, extra large! 

I've got a laundry basket I can logo.....

That'll do, what color is it?