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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2007, 06:18:58 pm »
Anything near that size would be fairly easy to build from scratch,  Do you think the factory bikes were jumped off a battery for cold start?

I would think a version of a dirt bikemag could be made to work somehow.. looks like the wound coils are the work.. the rotor appears to be drilled with magnets pushed in..

 pricey litle unit eh??
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2007, 06:29:14 pm »
Knowing some people, it'll go for megga bucks. ::) ::) ::)

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2007, 04:31:43 am »
I scanned another Dick Mann wins Daytona article from the June 1970 issue of Motor Cyclist - I will post that soon in .pdf form, too. Here is a separate ad that was in the same magazine.   ;D


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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #53 on: November 25, 2007, 03:17:53 am »
Thanks Bunny, this is typical of reports that abound.

This artical states he finished without a hint of trouble, other people tell he nursed it home on three cylinders, and on inspection, no cam chain adjuster.

It also states he was never headed, other reports say lost the lead several times.

I hoped we could have tempted some of the team to come on board to tell the story, but it don't seem to be happening dispite a lot of peoples efforts.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #54 on: November 25, 2007, 12:00:15 pm »
just bear in mind that the scan by MoTo-BunnY is a Honda America publicity bulletin Sam, it may not contain some of the problems they had  ;D
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2007, 08:09:52 pm »
Thanks Bunny, this is typical of reports that abound.

This artical states he finished without a hint of trouble, other people tell he nursed it home on three cylinders, and on inspection, no cam chain adjuster.

It also states he was never headed, other reports say lost the lead several times.

I hoped we could have tempted some of the team to come on board to tell the story, but it don't seem to be happening dispite a lot of peoples efforts.

Sam. ;)

The story I heard from the Honda rep we had befriended during my racing years was short: "Mann managed to keep the lead just enough to keep the engine together. At post-race teardown, the lead Honda engineer was reported to have turned to Dick and said, "You did fine. There was maybe one lap left in this cam chain." "

That sounds about like other Japanese engineer's "congrats" I've heard over the years: more than understated!
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2007, 02:12:43 am »
Here's another old Honda racing ad. I realize its not the same bike or anything - its from a 1966 Cycle World magazine. I just thought it was kewl - those old racing outfits were a trip! (Also notice how the bike and racers outfit AREN'T all smothered with corporate logos!)

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #57 on: November 27, 2007, 03:36:53 am »
I finally finished that .pdf of that Mann/Daytona '70 article. . .   ;D  enjoy!

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1973 Dodge "Chinook" RV (360CID V8)
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #58 on: November 27, 2007, 09:20:26 am »
Here's another old Honda racing ad. I realize its not the same bike or anything - its from a 1966 Cycle World magazine. I just thought it was kewl - those old racing outfits were a trip! (Also notice how the bike and racers outfit AREN'T all smothered with corporate logos!)

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looks like Ralph Bryans helmet design, pity not in colour, would be red with white stripes. Yes just black leathers mostly back then, very little in the way of sonsorship.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #59 on: November 27, 2007, 01:36:48 pm »
It is Ralph Malc.  The bike he is riding was a bit of a flop though. It was Hondas first atempt at a 500cc machine.
It was a twin, based on the 444cc Black Bomber they brought out in 1965. It was only raced once, at Oulton Park and was so slow, it was never seen again. :( :( :(

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #60 on: November 27, 2007, 02:53:52 pm »
It is Ralph Malc.  The bike he is riding was a bit of a flop though. It was Hondas first atempt at a 500cc machine.
It was a twin, based on the 444cc Black Bomber they brought out in 1965. It was only raced once, at Oulton Park and was so slow, it was never seen again. :( :( :(

IYBTYBA but there is a reason ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sam. ;)

hi Sam just read the text it does say Ralph Bryans, I really must read these things before I post.
As to the bike and acronym, Hmmmm  :) I will watch & wait.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #61 on: November 27, 2007, 03:09:30 pm »
Keep em all in the dark Malc ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #62 on: December 07, 2007, 08:15:45 am »


         Whoa! Sam (and all others who have participated in this), I don't know how I managed to not get in on this sooner! 8) I am really into the history behind things like this and have now read from start up until now. ;) This is totally awesome stuff all right. I will be keeping an eye on this from now on and wish there was somnething I could contribute.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #63 on: December 07, 2007, 10:00:39 am »
  I will be keeping an eye on this from now on and wish there was somnething I could contribute.
                               Later on, Bill :) ;)   

 You just contributed alot by joining the topic :) :)
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2007, 01:05:30 pm »
naw,he`s spending too much time in the funny car thread. ;D
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #65 on: December 07, 2007, 01:24:43 pm »
  I will be keeping an eye on this from now on and wish there was somnething I could contribute.
                               Later on, Bill :) ;)   

 You just contributed alot by joining the topic :) :)

           Thanks ekim, I appreciate that. I may not be able to do much else but, I sure can admire those bikes and ALL those who had anything involvement back then. 8) ;) I remember thinking  about how awesome those multicylinder (more than 2 cylinder, especially 4 or more cyls) bikes were and how they would be on the streets! And then, later, the Cb750K0 appeared! 8)

                                  Later on, Bill :) ;)
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #66 on: December 07, 2007, 01:35:06 pm »
naw,he`s spending too much time in the funny car thread. ;D

          Heeeey duster! You don't have to spill your guts, do ya? ??? ::)
    What can I say? I am history conscious of nearly All kinds of wheeled vehicles! What ever I don't know, I'm always trying to learn.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #67 on: December 11, 2007, 08:25:06 pm »
Very interesting topic..any one know how the CB 750 differs in dimension from the CB550? As i have stated before im going to be installing a full fairing..just deciding between the CR750 fairing and the full Dunstall fairing also offered by airtech.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #68 on: December 11, 2007, 08:40:25 pm »
The fairings offered by most manufacturers for the 750 would look a little on the large side on a 550.

You might want to check out Glass from the past,  www.caferacingparts.com   I think his name is Greg and is a member of this forum.

He might be able to find you something to suit the 550.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #69 on: December 11, 2007, 08:49:20 pm »
thanx for the heads up sam..hes actually got the exact same faring im looking at for my bike and has a better side angle pic of it in use.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #70 on: December 11, 2007, 09:06:04 pm »
His name is Bret not Greg.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #71 on: December 11, 2007, 11:58:46 pm »
great link to bret's site.  Good prices too.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #72 on: December 12, 2007, 04:43:23 pm »
My attempts to get in touch with Bob Hansen and see if he would participate with this whole Daytona/CR issue hasn't materialized.

If there is anyone out there who might have "an in" with Mr. Hansen please see if he can be persuaded to come on here and share with us his involvement in the project!

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #73 on: December 12, 2007, 05:45:21 pm »
Hi Brent, thank's for trying. I tried at my end to, if I can't get people I know personaly to take part (they said they would) then there's not much hope of persuading people we don't know to join in. :(

If nothing comes of it, I'll ask Glenn to let the thread roll.

Thanks again for your support.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #74 on: December 13, 2007, 01:55:03 am »
have you tried contacting Woody Leone?

Leone's Cycle Shop
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I lived in Beaumont until 1992,  they were just down the road (other side of Lamar University).  They were a Honda dealer and added Ski Doo watercraft to their line up.
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