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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #550 on: July 01, 2010, 08:00:13 PM »
Sent you a PM, Simon. Thanks in advance.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #551 on: July 04, 2010, 11:05:50 AM »
Some of you guys have been asking for a repost of this Cycle World article but it won't let me becasue it's 1.2Mb and as it's a PDF I can't reduce that. So Mr Moderator Samwise Green - what can we do to twist the rules and allow me to post this up? hMMMMM?  ???


I'm only here to keep you in check Simon, nobody said I had a clue about useing a computer. ;D ;D ;D ;D Try Mark.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #552 on: July 05, 2010, 11:39:55 PM »
PM sent to Mark... fingers crossed!  ;D
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #553 on: July 06, 2010, 12:52:22 AM »
Also, here is the October 1970 Cycle magazine article on a Dick Mann Daytona racer replica - its pretty tech involved. Most of you probably already have this info, I would imagine? - but its a kewl read.

(the perks of selling automotive/motorcycle/construction literature for a living - ALL the reading material you can imagine!. . . lol.)

Honda CB750-90HP Kit - Cycle - OCT 1970.pdf






It was all done by MoTo BunnY on page 2 Simon, not sur what happened to it. >:(

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #554 on: July 06, 2010, 09:07:46 AM »

And "404 - File Not Found" at this link.  :-[  RR

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #555 on: July 06, 2010, 02:17:25 PM »
Is there somebody out there with a complete partslist from a K0?
I am trying to piece a complete partslist for a kit bike together, wich is quite difficult. Already have a K5 kit partslist in my collection I will put it online tomorrow for those of you who are interested.

When I have got al the pieces from the "original" figured out I can put them into my digital drawings library.
Because I am finding it quite difficult to obtain information about correct measurements or replica parts i can imagine there are more people out there trying to put together a complete as possible picture.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #556 on: July 06, 2010, 09:27:02 PM »
nap, would it help if I were to post a picture of my "C" bracket, perhaps against a graph-paper background? Again, I do not know the origin of this part, but it appears to be similar to the one in the Cycle cover.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #557 on: July 07, 2010, 12:05:19 AM »
scottly, that will certainly help so if you would be so kind as to do so.
Here is the promised partslist from a kit version, note that only the items wich are to be changed are mentioned.



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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #558 on: July 07, 2010, 08:38:33 AM »
nap, would it help if I were to post a picture of my "C" bracket, perhaps against a graph-paper background? Again, I do not know the origin of this part, but it appears to be similar to the one in the Cycle cover.


Describe the "c" bracket and I can help.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #559 on: July 07, 2010, 10:24:58 AM »
Hi.I believe the C bracket refers to the right side "970" : joint,caliper holder.   Rock On
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #560 on: July 07, 2010, 02:38:44 PM »
The C bracket indeed refers to the right hand joint, caliper holder.
Still searching for measurements of the lower front fork legs, tank filler cap and whatever kit part you can possetively confirm to be a original part.

KOS if you would be so kind as to help out with the front fork if you can that would be great.

P.S. just bought me a really expensive front axle nut just to get the measurement...

 

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #561 on: July 07, 2010, 06:12:20 PM »
Pics of my bracket. The background grid is .250". The width across the pin bosses is 3.486, and the inside dimension is 1.815. The bracket weighs 70 grams, vs 118 for the left hand bracket. Any info about this "mystery" part appreciated!
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #562 on: July 08, 2010, 07:17:44 PM »
After comparing the pics of my CFC bracket with an enhanced, blown-up pic of the Cycle cover, it is definitely not the same part. The contour of the rear of the bracket is quite different. Just how many models were the CR kits made for? 
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #563 on: July 09, 2010, 01:47:21 AM »
Here are a couple of pictures of the 'C' brackets for my bike. The bracket on the right (the right-hand one surprisingly enough) was obtained from Bernie Saunders, copied form an original CR part as I understand and it's basically a mirror image of the left-hand 'C' bracket (on the left for comparison).




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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #564 on: July 09, 2010, 03:57:27 AM »
Hi Scottly.The part you show looks to be for 750 but is lacking the mounting points for front fender and clip,brake hose[the chrome hose mount]    Rock On
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #565 on: July 09, 2010, 06:17:13 AM »
Scottly, I now have got a pretty simular bracket wich does not show any markings on them.
The measurement are quite the same so no surprises there.

H2eric, are there any differences in the right-hand bracket compared to the left one?

Thanks for all the photo's and explanations, this topic really helps me (and others hopefully) to put the parts together.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #566 on: July 10, 2010, 01:11:56 AM »
Scottly, I now have got a pretty simular bracket wich does not show any markings on them.
The measurement are quite the same so no surprises there.

H2eric, are there any differences in the right-hand bracket compared to the left one?

Thanks for all the photo's and explanations, this topic really helps me (and others hopefully) to put the parts together.

The right-hand bracket is a mirror image of the left one. There are no differences except for a few minor bits in the casting as can be seen in the photo - easyly rectified with a dremel.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #567 on: July 18, 2010, 04:45:14 AM »
Scottly, I now have got a pretty simular bracket wich does not show any markings on them.
The measurement are quite the same so no surprises there.

H2eric, are there any differences in the right-hand bracket compared to the left one?

Thanks for all the photo's and explanations, this topic really helps me (and others hopefully) to put the parts together.

The right-hand bracket is a mirror image of the left one. There are no differences except for a few minor bits in the casting as can be seen in the photo - easyly rectified with a dremel.
Cheers
Eric
Same goes for my right hand bracket Eric - exactly the same but mirror image of the left. Only difference with yours is that mine was CNC'd from billet and yours is cast. Nice job though...
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #568 on: August 06, 2010, 12:58:55 AM »
Well, you guy's might have seen this before, but I didn't know that CMC in Netherlands was building and selling CR rep. part!!! But look at those prices!!  :o :o  http://www.cmsnl.com/products/full-spec-complete-race_crbi04/ Almost $4K for the fuel tank!! and I thought that I paid too much for mine at approx $1000 :-\
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #569 on: August 06, 2010, 01:12:36 AM »
Well, you guy's might have seen this before, but I didn't know that CMC in Netherlands was building and selling CR rep. part!!! But look at those prices!!  :o :o  http://www.cmsnl.com/products/full-spec-complete-race_crbi04/ Almost $4K for the fuel tank!! and I thought that I paid too much for mine at approx $1000 :-\

and for that kind of money I'd expect a proper replica fuel cap as well, but sadly not in this case.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #570 on: August 06, 2010, 06:20:41 AM »
I'm not 100% sure but there is a company in the UK that makes factory caps, a bit late for anyone who has already bought a tank but I have the address at home, I'll look it up on return and post it.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #571 on: August 06, 2010, 08:18:57 AM »
That would be great, my tank is also lacking a proper fuel cap. (And it is quite hard to find a descent one)

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #572 on: August 06, 2010, 11:05:59 AM »
I'm not 100% sure but there is a company in the UK that makes factory caps, a bit late for anyone who has already bought a tank but I have the address at home, I'll look it up on return and post it.

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Sam, That would be great... I actually thought that my tank had the right one!! but once again.. more rework and $$.... can't wait to finish up this project and get another started with my own ideas and NOT a replica. this thing is draining my wallet.  ;D ;D
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #573 on: August 16, 2010, 02:26:02 AM »
Sadly no longer with us, a mate of mine had an RC144 factory twin from the early 60s.
He took a mold off the filler cap and I saw the first one that came from the mold, unfinnished but very nice.
He then took very poorly with kidney problems and sold the business, and also sold the factory bike back to Honda as it was one of the few race models they didn't have in their museum.
A couple of years later his poor health took its toll and he died.
I have just been in touch with the company that he sold his business to and they are getting back to me with a price. Sad thing is, they can reproduce the cap but in an unfinnished state, they don't have the facilities to machine it. This might be a project where a person with machining facilities can make a few shillings finnishing them for would be buyers.
I'll get back with the price when I hear from them.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #574 on: August 16, 2010, 04:26:19 AM »
Hey Sam,

Sorry to hear from your mate.
Would be very nice to have such a cap. Enough guys here with machine facilities. Count me in.

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