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Offline benly- ben

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #500 on: October 21, 2009, 12:07:33 PM »
i took the pictures ;D ;D
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #501 on: October 21, 2009, 12:17:21 PM »
Quote from: H2Eric on October 21, 2009, 12:05:50 PM

Those fork sliders look a little odd. Not from a 1970 CR to my eyes - check out any decent pic of Dick Mann's bike, there should be a much deeper grove between the studs fore and aft extending into the main body of the slider and the end caps seem a rather poor match, especially for a works bike. Any thoughts anyone of what they might be from?
Good picture of the oil cooler though. Thanks Sam.

Eric

I thought that as well Eric when I saw the pics but thought perhaps they had been put on back to front, and yes, BEN took the pics. ;D ;D ;D

Sam. ;)
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #502 on: October 21, 2009, 12:23:16 PM »
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Please find out all you can about this frame etc.

Mark

KOS

I've been trying for the last 3 hours to find his phone number Mark.
I've phoned Steve Murray as I know he has it but couldn't get a connection to him.
I spoke to Simon (lordmoonpie) but he didn't have it and gave me the number of a person who did but I got no answer.
I,ve tried Tony Huck (Maitland racing) but no answer there as well.
I'll keep trying.

Sam. ;)
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #503 on: October 21, 2009, 12:38:10 PM »
Well knowing the bloke who's selling it I know some of what he owns. He has two (genuine) Honda France endurance spec. CR750s from the very early 70's. These featured a modified 'factory' frame with a narrower angle between the frame triangle up to the headstock as viewed from the side or as Sam puts it, a smaller space for the coils. This also had the benefit of greater ground clearance for extreme cornering.

I know said chap is selling some of his old stuff off and has sold one of the spare genuine honda france frames already, months before the Stafford show. I'm also aware that before selling it he lent it to the eventual purchaser who had a modern replica made out of Reynolds tubing - same design but much lighter.

Based on that I suspect this is the other frame of at least two spares he had for the two complete endurance facory racers. In that case it's genuine as genuine gets in this game....damn it all - I browsed on that stall and missed those fork legs completely having been mesmerised by the 4LS Fontana front drum!  :D
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #504 on: October 21, 2009, 12:54:48 PM »
on the phone to steve now.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #505 on: October 21, 2009, 01:20:02 PM »
The owner is on his way with a little help from his wife, sounds as if paul is as bad as me when it comes to computers. ;D ;D ;D

Sam. ;)
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #506 on: October 22, 2009, 11:44:07 AM »
Quote from: benly- ben on October 21, 2009, 12:07:33 PM
i took the pictures ;D ;D

Thanks Ben and much appreciated.
Credit must be given where its due

Cheers
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #507 on: October 23, 2009, 03:12:46 PM »
Thankyou.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #508 on: October 23, 2009, 05:36:39 PM »
Quote from: benly- ben on October 23, 2009, 03:12:46 PM
Thankyou.
You are a very helpful lad that's for sure Ben. ;) I hope school is going well and say hello to your dad for me.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #509 on: October 24, 2009, 02:01:17 AM »
Forget School Ben - you must be old enough to start racing now, has your Dad not bought you a nice little bike yet?!  ;D
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #510 on: October 25, 2009, 03:12:29 PM »
Quote from: lordmoonpie on October 24, 2009, 02:01:17 AM
Forget School Ben - you must be old enough to start racing now, has your Dad not bought you a nice little bike yet?!  ;D
I was old enough to start racing on the seventh of september but it wasnt worth buying a race lisence just for the last few months of the season and my nice little bike ;D wasnt ready. Looking forward to racing next year though!
Ben ;)
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #511 on: October 25, 2009, 03:13:55 PM »
Quote from: MRieck on October 23, 2009, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: benly- ben on October 23, 2009, 03:12:46 PM
Thankyou.
You are a very helpful lad that's for sure Ben. ;) I hope school is going well and say hello to your dad for me.
  Mike
School is going very well thanks & will do.
Benly Ben.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #512 on: October 26, 2009, 03:15:29 AM »
Quote from: benly- ben on October 25, 2009, 03:12:29 PM
Quote from: lordmoonpie on October 24, 2009, 02:01:17 AM
Forget School Ben - you must be old enough to start racing now, has your Dad not bought you a nice little bike yet?!  ;D
I was old enough to start racing on the seventh of september but it wasnt worth buying a race lisence just for the last few months of the season and my nice little bike ;D wasnt ready. Looking forward to racing next year though!
Ben ;)
Brilliant atuff Ben - look forward to hearing where you're going to race so I can come and see the "Chip off the old block" burning up the tarmac! I was just kiddin' about school by the way - you go and study hard and get good grades. Good grades equals a good job and good job equals good pay (relative in this world...) and good pay equals.....lots and lots of bikes and toys!  ;D

So, you keep your head down in those books young 'un and you can have the best of both worlds.  ;)
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #513 on: October 26, 2009, 03:53:06 AM »
Quote from: lordmoonpie on October 26, 2009, 03:15:29 AM
Quote from: benly- ben on October 25, 2009, 03:12:29 PM
Quote from: lordmoonpie on October 24, 2009, 02:01:17 AM
Forget School Ben - you must be old enough to start racing now, has your Dad not bought you a nice little bike yet?!  ;D
I was old enough to start racing on the seventh of september but it wasnt worth buying a race lisence just for the last few months of the season and my nice little bike ;D wasnt ready. Looking forward to racing next year though!
Ben ;)
Brilliant atuff Ben - look forward to hearing where you're going to race so I can come and see the "Chip off the old block" burning up the tarmac! I was just kiddin' about school by the way - you go and study hard and get good grades. Good grades equals a good job and good job equals good pay (relative in this world...) and good pay equals.....lots and lots of bikes and toys!  ;D

So, you keep your head down in those books young 'un and you can have the best of both worlds.  ;)

Yep defo! ;)
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #514 on: October 29, 2009, 02:11:51 PM »
+1!!! ;D ;D,Bill
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #515 on: November 01, 2009, 10:28:53 PM »
This is all a very interesting read. I'm 28 now, and I got my start in motorcycles about 4 years ago when I watched my uncle race Dick Mann at "The Farm" in Chehalis, WA. From what I understand, Dick Mann does the motocross track layout and helps with the organization of the event, and last I heard, he was still riding his BSA motocross bike.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #516 on: November 02, 2009, 04:15:55 AM »
Sam

I never heard a thing from the chap over your way with that frame/front end?

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #517 on: November 02, 2009, 08:01:01 AM »
This is all a very interesting read. I'm 28 now, and I got my start in motorcycles about 4 years ago when I watched my uncle race Dick Mann at "The Farm" in Chehalis, WA. From what I understand, Dick Mann does the motocross track layout and helps with the organization of the event, and last I heard, he was still riding his BSA motocross bike.
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #518 on: November 02, 2009, 11:27:02 AM »
Quote from: kos on November 02, 2009, 04:15:55 AM
Sam

I never heard a thing from the chap over your way with that frame/front end?

KOS




You have a PM Mark.

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #519 on: November 03, 2009, 01:17:44 PM »
Quote from: noexit on November 02, 2009, 08:01:01 AM
This is all a very interesting read. I'm 28 now, and I got my start in motorcycles about 4 years ago when I watched my uncle race Dick Mann at "The Farm" in Chehalis, WA. From what I understand, Dick Mann does the motocross track layout and helps with the organization of the event, and last I heard, he was still riding his BSA motocross bike.

Thanks noexit but we did know this, it's stated on one of the earlier pages of this thread.

Thanks for joining in and welcome to the forum.

Sam. ;)
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #520 on: November 20, 2009, 07:23:24 AM »
Please excuse the interruption if this is wrong place to post this, but I'm desperately trying to find photos of the oil tank mounting arrangement on the CR750, so I can properly mount the tank on my CB/CR project.  I've been coming up with nothing.  Can anyone point me to photos of the frame differences in this area and the bracketry?

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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #521 on: November 20, 2009, 07:49:32 AM »
Keith, If no-one posts it, my seat is off currently so I can take a picture tomorrow and post up if you want. It needs a new bracket on the frame rails at the top and bottom either side from memory...
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #522 on: November 20, 2009, 07:55:08 AM »
Keith - go to post number four, picture number three on the Hishiki Sumiya thread on this hipo forum, currently page one and you can see the bottom mount for the oil tank from the left hand side. This is a plate welded to the frame rails, one each side for the tank to sit on (note not bolted). I will send you a pic of the top mount later tomorrow...
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #523 on: November 20, 2009, 10:28:54 AM »
cool beans, will check it out.  TIA for the pics tomorrow!
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Re: The 1970 Daytona CR750s.
« Reply #524 on: November 29, 2009, 07:21:23 PM »
Quote from: H2Eric on October 21, 2009, 12:05:50 PM

Those fork sliders look a little odd. Not from a 1970 CR to my eyes - check out any decent pic of Dick Mann's bike, there should be a much deeper grove between the studs fore and aft extending into the main body of the slider and the end caps seem a rather poor match, especially for a works bike. Any thoughts anyone of what they might be from?
Good picture of the oil cooler though. Thanks Sam.

Eric

Hey Eric, when are we going to see some pics of your build ? I saw your cylinder block the other day, It's awsome 8) 8) 8) 8) If the rest is half as good. ;)

Sam. ;)
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