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Carburetor Jetting Guidelines from www.motorcyclecarbs.com
« on: November 12, 2007, 08:43:57 AM »
Thought this info might be useful to some of us. Here's the link or you can read below:
http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Jetting_Rules_of_Thumb_W43C551.cfm


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This document is based on Mikuni Carburetors. But the theory follows through on all carburetors. Be aware that Mikuni Main jets increment in steps of 2.5, Hitachi Main jets increment in steps of 2.0. Hitachi Main jets (screw in style [Yamaha XJ's] are available in sizes from 110-134 in increments of 2.0. All this means that if you find you need to go up 4 steps on the main jets according to this chart (2.5x4) the step up would be 10.0. For Hitachi mains the step up would be 5 jet sizes (2.0x5) since following this chart for Hitachi mains would put you at 8.0 which is very close to 7.5 which would be 3 steps according to this chart.

Jetting Recommendations
by Denny Zander

Here is a simple set of jetting guidelines that have worked for me. For those considering jet changes, this might help select a starting point.

1 jet size for custom 4 into 2 exhaust

2 jet sizes for 4 into 1 exhaust

1 jet size for K&N filter (single inside airbox)

1 jet size for drilling out the bottom of the airbox

2 jet sizes for both single K&N and drilled airbox

2 jet sizes for individual filters

2 jet sizes for no muffler (open header)

1 pilot jet size for every 3 main jet size increase

Add up all the jet size increases and subtract one. (Remember they go in steps of 2.5 for each jet size)

Under a mismatch condition, like individual filters and stock exhaust or 4 into 1 header with stock filter and air box, subtract an additional 1 jet size.

Check plug color often, sync carbs after each jet change, make sure the floats are set correctly, and seriously consider purchasing a Color Tune. (See "Color tuning Carburetors" in the Maintenance Section).

Make sure your carbs are in perfect working order before making jet changes.

Example from my '79 XS1100 F:
Stock main jets: 137.5

Stock pilot jets: 42.5

2 sizes for 4:1 exhaust (Jardine)

1 size for single K&N

1 size for drilled air box

4 (main sizes) - 1 = 3 or 137.5 + (2.5 * 3) = 145.0
1 (pilot jet size) or 42.5 + (2.5 * 1) = 45.0

With this jet configuration I get 32-38 mpg on the open road, Smooth idle, very strong acceleration from off idle to 80+ mph, and steady pull past 120 mph. My "F" has 65K mile on it, of which I have put 33K with this jet configuration.

Happy Jetting

Additional info: Decrease main jet size one step per 2000' above sea level. Decrease pilot jet every 6000' above sea level.

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Re: Carburetor Jetting Guidelines from www.motorcyclecarbs.com
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2007, 10:11:09 AM »
you need to add this to the tricks and tips
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 11:04:25 AM »
I hate math. I'm lost. Just tell me what I need to do . I have open exhaust and 4 pod filters on my 75 cb550.  : ;D

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2007, 11:16:55 AM »
3 sizes over stock (if I did my math right). What your stock size is I have no idea.  ;D
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Re: Carburetor Jetting Guidelines from www.motorcyclecarbs.com
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2007, 12:01:30 PM »
My guess is :

2 jet sizes for individual filters

2 jet sizes for no muffler (open header)



2 + 2 -1 =   3 sizes up for main jet

1 pilot jet size for every 3 main jet size increase

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2007, 12:10:58 PM »
Surprising how cam , 4-1 exhaust, filters, bore kit, can get  by with way less than he recommends.

Talking CB 750,s here, and reading plugs to determine jet size..

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Re: Carburetor Jetting Guidelines from www.motorcyclecarbs.com
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2007, 12:25:39 PM »
Had my bike on the dyno for 6 hours and the computer was telling my to lean out the mains
but the plugs where telling my to keep getting richer
follow the plugs and learn to read them

funny how after it was all said and done that we got good color
on the plugs and making 71 HP on my 840 GS Suzuki

when In doubt

check the color of the plugs

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2007, 02:33:54 PM »
No chart is an absolut figure by no means for jetting,new bike or old,especially older machines, ever machine behaves differently ,you can tune 2 of the same machines & come up with 2 different basse lines ,then the work begins, If you cant tune a stock machine for optimum performance ,dont think about jetting & pipes ,its mostly all noise & less power when done wrong, no punt intented but I see it all to often.a cheap plug chop, as suggested,a fuel monitor in the pipe is another ,but the best overall is always the Dynamometer.It will save you from pulling your hair out with perhaps running lean ,to rich,spitting in the midrange,off idle wows,loss of wot power,& the worse case scenario ,holeing a piston & or seizure.later...RS
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 05:07:42 AM »
It's still a good guide to a starting point, though. Certainly not the "end-all - beat-all," but a good starting point.

Wish it offered suggestions for overbores as well.
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