Topic: Michael Moore's SICKO is a must see.

[Quail "Owner of the comfortable k8"]

I think Bobby what we have is a "Newer Deal.  1 percent of everyones money today placed in a goverment program will equal 10% of everyones money tommorow.  The best part is watching the money go in to some prk program and not where you were told it would go.  The SS monies paid in the 50s paid for the Vietnam War and the pot ran dry in the 70s.  This "Deal" for me is no deal.

T1 you are not the enemy, expecting the invisible man to pay our bills just never works.  Your in the same toilet bowel as us. Your just a spins further down the drain.  But we are gaining on you fast!

[Terry in Australia]

T1 you are not the enemy, expecting the invisible man to pay our bills just never works.  Your in the same toilet bowel as us. Your just a spins further down the drain.  But we are gaining on you fast!

Ha ha, nah, I meant I am the enemy of all self-respecting Lesbians, T2! 

Our health system sure has it's faults, (lots of arguments at the moment between State and Federal governments over "ownership" and "Financial Responsibility") but it's still working well, and I love the fact that I don't have to have any private medical insurance, and all I'm not covered for is elective surgery, (so that penis reduction will have to wait sadly) dental, and optical.

But considering that I've only had to pay for one extraction and my new glasses in the last 6 years since I left the regular army, (that I claimed for anyway under "protective eyewear" in my 2006 tax return) I can live with that. Medicare cost me around 700 bucks last year, (1% of my 2006 taxable income, in US dollars) and I spent more than that on booze, probably! I know what i'd rather spend my money on.................. ridding the world of those damn greedy Lesbians!

[Quail "Owner of the comfortable k8"]

I spent more than that on booze, probably! I know what i'd rather spend my money on.................. ridding the world of those damn greedy Lesbians!

We almost got rid of the damn greedy Clinton Lesbian but the bomb proved to be fake.  Now I have done it I said clinton and bomb in the same sentence.  The Home boy Security system will be knockin at my door..... I will be back someones at the door.

[edbikerii]

Aw jeez, that Clinton c()nt gives lesbians a bad name.

[BobbyR]

Aw jeez, that Clinton c()nt gives lesbians a bad name.

+1

[333]

You can tell when Republicans are losing an argument.  They start saying stupid stuff.

[Terry in Australia]

Aw jeez, that Clinton c()nt gives lesbians a bad name.

Yeah, but it'll be good to get Bill back in the White House, even if he's only the "First Lady", ha ha!

Hmmnnn, now if he's the first lady and he starts screwing female interns, does that make him a damn Lesbian too?

[S-Dog]

You can tell when Republicans are losing an argument.  They start saying stupid stuff.

...democrats just say stupid stuff right from the start...

[333]

It's easy to say that someones opinion is stupid.  I stopped calling people names in grade school.  What's next?  Hilary's got kooties?

[Terry in Australia]

"Cooties" is spelled with a "C", you illiterate bastaard!

[Quail "Owner of the comfortable k8"]

Why does everyone think if you make an off hand remark about "The Ice Queen" your a Republican?  Does anyone out there not believe she hates men?  and back to the thread..  And that crap about Cuba give me a friggen break.   I have seen everything Moore ever made and he just hates the USA.  But not me, I love all of you, let set a time and do a group monitor hug.  (sorry about you FLAT screen guys you won't have anything to grab onto.  You can look at the boob thread.

[SEBNN]

Please, let the thread die.  It lived a good 2 weeks or so, had some fun and brought together differing opinions that hopefully made all of us think about our opinions and why we have them.  But now it has debased itself into nothing but a name calling, 2nd grade pushing contest.  There are other less fortunate threads out there struggling for life and we should now go and help them . 

Seriously though, I thought that we had agreed to disagree a long time ago.  Helping the less fortunate is good; we just differ on the methods used to help the less fortunate.  Since the angelic-Libertarians and the restroom-stall-sex-seeking, sick-orphan-drowning Republicans aren't interested in government involvement or for giving the government any more excuse to grow they are for private donations (really those greedy bastards just want to keep their hard earned money) and the pinko-left-wing-brown-shirted-socialist-Nazis and their man-hands bull of a first lady turned presidential hopeful want to tax more to help the government help the less fortunate; why not just agree to keep the status quo with a few modifications to improve its efficiency and to make sure that people who qualify (poor people) are signed up and treated.

And then let this thread die, please, think of its suffering at this point, let it go out with some dignity and control over its own existence.  Heaven knows that I haven't resorted to some of the lowbrow tactics of others in this discussion.  Keeping it on the up-and-up, thats my motto! 

[Terry in Australia]

  Does anyone out there not believe she hates men?

Well I'm pretty sure she hates Bill, T2! And I'm not hugging you until you apologise for calling me a "Kiwi wannabe", hell, I never called you a "Mexican hopeful" did I? My feelings are still hurt!

[BobbyR]

Please, let the thread die.  It lived a good 2 weeks or so, had some fun and brought together differing opinions that hopefully made all of us think about our opinions and why we have them.  But now it has debased itself into nothing but a name calling, 2nd grade pushing contest.  There are other less fortunate threads out there struggling for life and we should now go and help them . 

Seriously though, I thought that we had agreed to disagree a long time ago.  Helping the less fortunate is good; we just differ on the methods used to help the less fortunate.  Since the angelic-Libertarians and the restroom-stall-sex-seeking, sick-orphan-drowning Republicans aren't interested in government involvement or for giving the government any more excuse to grow they are for private donations (really those greedy bastards just want to keep their hard earned money) and the pinko-left-wing-brown-shirted-socialist-Nazis and their man-hands bull of a first lady turned presidential hopeful want to tax more to help the government help the less fortunate; why not just agree to keep the status quo with a few modifications to improve its efficiency and to make sure that people who qualify (poor people) are signed up and treated.

And then let this thread die, please, think of its suffering at this point, let it go out with some dignity and control over its own existence.  Heaven knows that I haven't resorted to some of the lowbrow tactics of others in this discussion.  Keeping it on the up-and-up, thats my motto! 

This thread could be called a social experiment in how politicians keep doing what they do. People become so wrapped up in their own stance and going after each other, there is little chance they will come together and focus on the politicians and the people who support them with contributions. Until people come together they win.

[andy750]

Heaven knows that I haven't resorted to some of the lowbrow tactics of others in this discussion.  Keeping it on the up-and-up, thats my motto! 

I think this is the perfect politicians statement.....acting self-righteous and blaming everyone else for "lowbrow" tactic.....wonderful example! 

[upperlake04]

.. let this thread die, please, think of its suffering at this point, let it go out with some dignity and control over its own existence. 

 Its OK, its normal  for serious threads to eventually fade away, spasmodic, babbling, and dripping from the chin.

[333]

the restroom-stall-sex-seeking, sick-orphan-drowning Republicans
 the pinko-left-wing-brown-shirted-socialist-Nazis

This is what you call dignity and keeping it on the up and up?  The only difference between grade school antics and this is some of these words were learned in high school.

[edbikerii]

Wow, 333, sarcasm is wasted on you, huh?

the restroom-stall-sex-seeking, sick-orphan-drowning Republicans
 the pinko-left-wing-brown-shirted-socialist-Nazis

This is what you call dignity and keeping it on the up and up?  The only difference between grade school antics and this is some of these words were learned in high school.

[eldar]

Well any dignity just flew out the window there.

Terry, you ARE a kiwi wannabe!

[Joel]

'I don't want anybody here thinking that I'm taking a cheap shot at the US, I'm just saying that for a country so wealthy, it's hard to understand why there's so much opposition to taxpayers money being used to look after the health of American people?"

That's because most of the country's wealth is held by like 3% of it's population....You are either EXTREMELY Wealthy or just gettin by...or worse!

Dennis

The richest 20% of the population in the United States make approximately 50% of annual income.

The poorest 20% of the population makes less than 5% of annual income.

[BobbyR]

'I don't want anybody here thinking that I'm taking a cheap shot at the US, I'm just saying that for a country so wealthy, it's hard to understand why there's so much opposition to taxpayers money being used to look after the health of American people?"

That's because most of the country's wealth is held by like 3% of it's population....You are either EXTREMELY Wealthy or just gettin by...or worse!

Dennis

The richest 20% of the population in the United States make approximately 50% of annual income.

The poorest 20% of the population makes less than 5% of annual income.

This is true and probably unaviodable due to many factors. While leveling the "wealth factor" is really not practical, we can however level the "health factor". The poorest people in the UK are healthter than high income US Americans.   

[edbikerii]

The richest 20% of the population in the United States make approximately 50% of annual income.

The poorest 20% of the population makes less than 5% of annual income.

This is true and probably unaviodable due to many factors. While leveling the "wealth factor" is really not practical, we can however level the "health factor". The poorest people in the UK are healthter than high income US Americans.   

We've got to straighten this out!  We've got to cut those wasteful welfare programs in order to fund desperately needed research into the health issues among "high income US Americans" immediately.

I know!  Maybe we should tax those damned pompous, imperialist, tea-drinking, warm beer drinking (for chrissakes), colonizing brits in order to equalize this disparity.   

And in what nations, exactly, do the poorest 20% of the population make MORE than 5% of the annual income?  Surely, nobody is foolish enough to think this fact about income distribution is unique to the US, or even to capitalist nations in general.  Surely some of you guys studied statistics, right?

[Terry in Australia]

Well any dignity just flew out the window there.

Terry, you ARE a kiwi wannabe!

Ha, says you! That's rich, coming from a K8 owning dung farmer......................

[eldar]

Hey wqhat can I say. My K8 grew from the wrecks of K1s that never could cut it!   HA HA Kiwi-boy!

[mark]

How's this for an idea?

Take the billions that we are currently pissing away on PRISONS, and spend most of that on a healthcare system that would be the envy of the world.

Keep the county jail for pretrial and those '10 days for disorderly conduct' type things.

State prison terms of say, up to a year or two could be replaced by... hmmm.... perhaps flogging. Racial concerns could be relieved by having blacks flog blacks, whites flog whites, asians flog asians, and so on. Longer sentences, and those sentenced to them, would be abolished. All of our armed robbers, rapists, Enron thieves, murderers, child molesters, heroin smugglers, and other violent criminals would receive a bullet between the eyes, instead of their current luxurious lifestyle. The funds remaining after healthcare could buy the bullets.

All those unemployed jailers.... what about them.... I guess some could be cops... maybe a few join the Army or something. I always wondered if the cutbacks in logging had anything to do with Oregon's ban on self-serve gas stations. hmmm... ex-jailers pumping gas. Between that and the whip, 'drive-outs' would quickly fade into history as a class of crime.

State prison buildings in convenient places could become state hospital buildings, state prison complexes in distant rural areas could be rented to wacko survivalist cults.

Tort reform has been mentioned. It is doomed to fail as long as juries continue to hand out millions.. 'it's not my money, after all'.. to relieve the 'pain and suffering'.. of those poor, hapless, 'victims'. Think about that next time you get a jury summons.


Happy trails.