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what is a good "all around" tire
« on: July 24, 2005, 10:33:45 PM »
Alas after 28 years of loyal service, the K7's front ribbed tire its starting to show its age.  I have stock rims and according to the little manual I found under the seat, the front is 3.50 H19 and rear is 4.50 H17A.  I figure ill do both becuase the rear still has decent tread but it still .

What kind of tire do you all use?  I don't need top of the line all out race tires, just regular tires.  I do some dirt road riding (and some grass riding :P) so i dont want slicks.  I may go to a street bike tire if i like the tread.

Also, I was looking around and I don't see many tires labeled like mine.  More of a car fashion with series and such (ex. 100/90/19 , 110/90/19 62h?) Can anyone convert my older tires into new numbers so i can expand my selection?

any suggestions?


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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2005, 11:30:29 PM »
Check the FAQ for a tire size comparison:

http://www.sohc4.us/forums/index.php?topic=368.0

I recently scoured the forum for posts about tires. The folks here seem to recommend the same couple of brands\types of tires. Do a search and you'll get a lot of information.
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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 01:12:06 AM »
I believe that Metzelers are one of the very best all round tyres but are still one of the least expensive. At one time I used them for racing and found them as good as genuine Dunlop racing tyres.

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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2005, 07:18:35 AM »
yep to the metzlers, i figured if the post classic racing boys can use them round the track, then they are good enough for me ::)... go the lazertechs...good tires..peace
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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2005, 08:00:04 AM »
yep to the metzlers, i figured if the post classic racing boys can use them round the track, then they are good enough for me ::)... go the lazertechs...good tires..peace
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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2005, 09:23:26 AM »
I've run Metzlers, conti's, dunlops, brigstones, and the Cheng Shins. I have to tell you, for the money, wear, and performance, I'll keep using the Cheng Shins. Was not impressed with the Conti's or Metzlers to be honest, at least not for the money.
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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2005, 10:39:19 AM »
melzlers eh?  where would i go about buying these?  I'm looking to spend about $60 each, so tires that are $150 are out of my range/need. 

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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2005, 03:53:01 PM »
We sure have different philosophies on this one. If 28 year old tires don't scare the (insert euphamism here) out of you, then anything will do. Check the back of any cycle shop. They throw a lot of tires with plenty of tread away. You could save a ton by carving some out of wood. Glue popcorn balls onto your rims. Any of these is better than the round rocks you've been skating on.
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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2005, 05:20:16 PM »
i know that tires can be a bit exi, but they are the only things stopping pain and suffering...with tires its like helmets... i spend the most that i can afford... its my life....peace
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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2005, 05:28:59 PM »
I run Dunlop 491 Elite II, front and rear.


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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2005, 06:15:52 PM »
I have had good experience with Bridgestone and Dunlops. Both make tires with mid-range rubber (not too hard, not too soft).  Too hard you sacrifice grip for milage, too soft you'll be changing them more frequently.

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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2005, 10:25:56 PM »

+1 to Buffo on the Dunlop Elite 491s -- I replaced the Chengs Shins with these a while ago and was sparking the passenger pegs on the Dragon with wild abandon last weekend!

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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2005, 03:33:03 AM »
i use chen shin for town work (grippy and cheap), and before a long loaded trip, i go bridgestone spitfires. the chens work good for 'scratching' but hate two up camping rides. chens are $50 cheaper to bridgys here. but the bridgys last 1/3 longer. and how hard to you want to push a heavy old bike with emotional suspension? i got told buy an old biker once that you should go for the softest tire your bike can afford. makes sense really...........

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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2005, 09:57:22 AM »
hey buffo i was thinking about the 491's too, but i really like the GT501.  I couldnt find too many tires out there that would fit my wheels.

ive come down to those two and the cruser tire, D404 and the F11 qualifiers, for a cool older look.  i do think im sticking with dunlop.

I couldnt find metlzers that would, but im only at one site http://www.americanmototire.com/ .

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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2005, 10:02:36 AM »
I mounted D404's front and rear last winter. They are fine, I like them, but then I don't do much in the way of agressive riding. They suit my tourning nature just fine and I found them moderately priced.. though a bear to mount.
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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2005, 10:24:47 AM »
hmmm.  buffo, what size did you get for your rear tire?  I cant find 120/90-17 for the elites, or pretty much anyother tire.  do you have a different rim size or did you just run 130/90-17?


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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2005, 06:20:45 AM »
I've run Metzlers, conti's, dunlops, brigstones, and the Cheng Shins. I have to tell you, for the money, wear, and performance, I'll keep using the Cheng Shins. Was not impressed with the Conti's or Metzlers to be honest, at least not for the money.

You run cheng shins and are not impressed with metzlers? If it is a cb750, you must not be pushing your bike that hard.

I had a set of brand new cheng shins on a cb750 I bought and they were the greasiest tires I have ever ridden on even after wearing in. I don't ride that aggressivly but considering I have to dodge a NYC taxicab every now and again the ability to make a quick turn is a plus, those shins would wiggle with every fast turn I made. Completely uninspiring tire and a great way to shake your confidence in your bike. After about 5000 miles I ditched them for a pair of avons and never looked back.

Personnally for a cb750 my preference is:

Metzler
Avon
Dunlop
continental
bridgestone (only because I haven't ridden on one but I hear good things).

Cheng shin is a cheap tire (about $35 per tire usually). For $71 a tire off dennis kirk bridgestones seem like a better deal, at least I have never heard anybody bodmouth a bridgestone like they do a cheng shin. Continentals will run you about $80 a tire and all the rest are $100 or over.
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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2005, 05:31:15 PM »
like I said, both are Dunlop 491 Elite II.

Front : MM90-19 M/C 61H
Rear:   MT90 B17 M/C 76H

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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2005, 05:40:10 AM »
I just put a set of Maxxis on my '76 750F. The guy that sold them to me swore by them and runs them on his bikes. He also races old Brit bikes in AHRMA, but uses Avons for the track. I just rode on THE DRAGON in eat TN this past week in the rain and in the dry, they stuck very well.

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Re: what is a good "all around" tire
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2005, 10:36:32 AM »
I put on a set of Maxxis and they work great. They make a touring tire that my mechanic uses and a grippier tire that he suggested for me to use. I think they're made by Cheng Shin, are inexpensive, but stick well.

Barry in FL