Author Topic: Misread the engine ID. It is '69 after all (Read 3193 times)

gregwaits · « **on:** December 13, 2007, 09:48:44 PM »

I picked up the $100 CB750 earlier tonight. At first I thought the engine wasn't from a '69 model. I misread the "E" for an "F"

Here is the true number:

CB750E-1038425

Not a sandcast, but check the pics of the tank; I am pretty sure this is the "wrinkled" version.

Sorry about the glare. This camera sucks.

754 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 13, 2007, 09:53:08 PM »

Is the frame # close to the engine # ??

gregwaits · « **Reply #2 on:** December 13, 2007, 09:56:13 PM »

The frame sat outside in the elements and has surface rust on it. I don't know if that would make that much of a difference, but I can't find the number.

I hope it wasn't filed off. I don't want a hot bike, no matter how old or forgotten!

754 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 13, 2007, 09:56:35 PM »

Looks like a wrinkle tank, and maybe a diecast cap!

Number should be around a inch from the weld seam, try wetting your finger and wiping it across, or steel wool.

Sounds like a 1970 by Engine #.

gregwaits · « **Reply #4 on:** December 13, 2007, 10:16:59 PM »

I was able to scrub it down enough to see. The engine number matches the frame! That's great.

According to this site, the numbers for 1970 start "1044650", so I guess this is a late '69 model.

http://www.ace.net.nz/classic/numbers.htm

I will get into all the boxes tomorrow to see what condition the rest of the parts are in. I did look at the oil tank, and it is clean with no cracks. It doesn't have those fins like I have seen on early 69s though.

754 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2007, 10:24:37 PM »

The numbers are usually close but dont match.

gregwaits · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2007, 10:30:11 PM »

I'll clean it up even more tomorrow, but the numbers on the frame sure look to be the same as the engine #s.

bryanj · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2007, 10:57:43 PM »

If they match its more suspicious than no number at all!

Aaron J Williams · « **Reply #8 on:** December 14, 2007, 04:05:32 PM »

Quote from: bryanj on December 13, 2007, 10:57:43 PM

If they match its more suspicious than no number at all!

My thoughts exactly. You could probably part it out on fee-bay for a small fortune. Early 750 stuff is through the roof right now for some odd reason.

gregwaits · « **Reply #9 on:** December 14, 2007, 07:55:30 PM »

Quote from: Aaron J Williams on December 14, 2007, 04:05:32 PM

Quote from: bryanj on December 13, 2007, 10:57:43 PM
If they match its more suspicious than no number at all!
My thoughts exactly. You could probably part it out on fee-bay for a small fortune. Early 750 stuff is through the roof right now for some odd reason.

Aaron, I had to read through your post a couple of times! The jiggly Honda girl you have for your avatar is just way too distracting!

ekim98 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2007, 08:22:45 PM »

Quote from: gregwaits on December 14, 2007, 07:55:30 PM

Aaron, I had to read through your post a couple of times! The jiggly Honda girl you have for your avatar is just way too distracting!

All that typed stuff doesn't distract me from the jiggly Honda Girl.

dustyc · « **Reply #11 on:** December 15, 2007, 06:32:11 AM »

Exact matching numbers doesn't seem like it would happen, that's a roll of some mighty big dice to come up the same. Even if they replaced the engine, what would be the odds of finding that number? Does it look like the numbers have been altered?

If it's legit, that's a cool conversation piece.

JLeather · « **Reply #12 on:** December 15, 2007, 06:48:57 AM »

Sounds to me like maybe the case got broken, replaced with a factory unstamped case, and someone stamped the neck numbers into it instead of the old engine numbers.

gregwaits · « **Reply #13 on:** December 15, 2007, 07:19:56 AM »

As I was going over the engine (cleaning it up a bit) yesterday. I noticed that someone had stamped on the engine on one flat panel the memorable words "#$%* you".

It was done very professionally. Odd why someone would want to do that. If I can, I'll take a closeup of it.

Strange

cleveland · « **Reply #14 on:** December 15, 2007, 09:10:45 AM »

Pics man, where are the pics?!!!

BTW, Congrats! I picked up a sancast with a broken case, rusted to all hell, and still made $1000 on it selling it whole. I could have made quite a bit more parting it out.

So it looks like you have the choice of spending as fortune (rebuilding it) or making a (selling parts).

gregwaits · « **Reply #15 on:** December 15, 2007, 09:29:53 AM »

Thanks. I can't believe my good fortune.

I will try and get some pics taken very soon.

I was going through the boxes and I found the side covers which are in perfect condition, although they had been repainted (and now faded) They have the tell tale rear vents. The oil tank is in perfect shape too.

The wheels are not stock. Someone switched over to 7 spoke cast mag wheels (matching front and rear).

More to come.

sohc4c · « **Reply #16 on:** December 19, 2007, 11:41:29 PM »

well,with a 103 serial #it sure aint no sandcast.I have a 103 serial# bike and pretty sure it!s a 70 model.roughly the first 7500 bikes were sandcast.So if it doesn~t read 1007500 or less it aint sandcast.Greg e-mail me at riceisnicer@yahoo.com and I will look up your exact year.

sohc4c · « **Reply #17 on:** December 19, 2007, 11:48:48 PM »

Greg,the site that you got your info on numbers from is in New Zealand.Whole different numbering sequence.you have a 1970 or maybe early 71.

Swoop · « **Reply #18 on:** December 20, 2007, 02:32:30 AM »

Not to get too far off topic...it kinda relates....why is it that people do not want to give the full serial number of their bike? I guess my mind is not evil enough to figure this one out. What kind of scams are pulled with this info.
Thanks
Steve

Bob Wessner · « **Reply #19 on:** December 20, 2007, 02:36:40 AM »

Quote from: Swoop on December 20, 2007, 02:32:30 AM

Not to get too far off topic...it kinda relates....why is it that people do not want to give the full serial number of their bike? I guess my mind is not evil enough to figure this one out. What kind of scams are pulled with this info.
Thanks
Steve

I think it is more a case of the first digits are assumed and we are too lazy to key it in its entirety.

That's my reason anyway.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #20 on:** December 20, 2007, 03:56:34 AM »

Maybe, there was a guy here in Oz with a CB750 frame on EBay Oz recently, he didn't list a frame number so I asked him for it, and he gave me all but the last 3 numbers, "for security reasons"!

Ha ha, I thought to myself, "who bloody cares?" It was a bare K4 frame that hadn't been on the road for years, so it's not like I could somehow get his name and address and steal his precious frame, which by the way didn't get a bid........

Swoop · « **Reply #21 on:** December 20, 2007, 04:41:05 AM »

Thanks

bryanj · « **Reply #22 on:** December 20, 2007, 05:40:58 AM »

Here in UK you can apply for paperwork with a frame or chassis number (engine dont matter) so it could be "rung"

JLeather · « **Reply #23 on:** December 20, 2007, 05:54:06 AM »

If I've got a title to a bike, and it's nice a legitimately mine, I don't mind postin' the whole number. In the case of my new K0, I don't have the title for it. Someone could take my string of numbers and apply to Broadway Titles or ITS and get a title for MY bike in their name. Then they could show up and claim it, or atleast screw up my chances at titling it.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #24 on:** December 20, 2007, 04:15:03 PM »

Good point mate, get that thing titled and on the road, a good K0 is too good to waste!

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