Topic: CA registration/emissions crap

[yesplease]

I was wondering about registering a post 78 bike in CA so I called the DMV and they referred me to CARB. CARB said that I couldn't register anything 78 and up for highway use unless it had a CA emissions sticker, but this seems a bit excessive since they'll register cars that meat fed guidelines. What are the requirements for registering an older bike in CA? Do I really have to have some CA emissions sticker on the bike somewhere?

[333]

No matter how ridicules the rules are, if you want to ride that bike, you must play by their rules.

[Uncle Ernie]

Are they hooking up exhaust gas analysers?  When did this start?!

My mechanic used to lean the beans out of my old Volvo to get the sticker and then make it run right after it passed.  Just another hoop.

[mark]

I seem to recall that GS250 having an emission label stuck on it somewhere. I also recall a number of annoying adventures at CA dmv. CA pretty much quit giving me problems after I moved to OR.

CA started sniffing exhaust fumes about 30 years ago - at first it was only done when transferring ownership, then expanded in the '90s to 'every two years for just about everything'.

[DammitDan]

Remind me to stay forever in bass ackward TN...

[yesplease]

Phew. Alright, I guess the CSR at the CA ARB didn't understand what I was asking about or what they were talking about. No smog required, and anything that complied with federal emissions can be registered as long as it has more than 7500 miles on it.

[yesplease]

Also, getting through smog in CA isn't a big deal as long as the owner isn't brain dead and can wrench. There are also a million and one loopholes to avoid smog checks if the owner is willing to put in the effort. And honestly, I don't mind the rules too much since they keep the air from looking like it does in Mexico city, and the level/rigor of testing drops as the population density drops. A significant portion of CA only requires a smog check when the vehicle changes hands and even then depending on the age there may be no visual inspection and just a two speed idle test.

[TwoTired]

Remind me to stay forever in bass ackward TN...

Friendly reminder,

Please stay in "bass ackward TN"... forever.

Sincerely,
Lloyd - California visitor who decided to stay.
Really, I'd leave, but the weather patterns have this strange hold on me, and I can't fit them into moving boxes.

BTW, if you ever wish to be treated worse than crap by local residents, don a Navy uniform and walk the streets of Memphis or Millington.  Such bad memories of my time there in 1968, (outside the base proper) leave me with no desire to even visit that state.

Reminds me of a "sort of" joke:
Q: Why is it there are so few UFO sightings in Tennessee?
A:  Aliens are searching for intelligent life.

(The drummer makes the pah-dum-dut sound. Only audience members not from Tennessee, chuckle.)

[upperlake04]

..I don't mind the rules too much since they keep the air from looking like it does in Mexico city..

 Better move to Tennessee yesplease

[dusterdude]

lloyd,i think that was 1968 in general.

[TwoTired]

lloyd,i think that was 1968 in general.

To an extent, yes.  But, there were few towns actually posting; "Dogs and Sailors Stay Off The Lawn" signs.  They actually treated their dogs better, though, as they didn't arrest the dogs for a sign infraction.

In retrospect, I'm surprised they actually spelled the sign correctly.  They must have been proud of the state scholar that did that under contract before he or she left in disgust.

[yesplease]

Better move to Tennessee yesplease

Reminds me of the distribution of lung cancer rates I saw. Seemed to be particularly hot in the good 'ol south. 

[upperlake04]

  In retrospect, I'm surprised they actually spelled the sign correctly.  They must have been proud of the state scholar that did that under contract before he or she left in disgust. 

        But TT – aren't Tennesseeans the ingenious people that gave the world the Tennessee Fainting Goat. 
   I’d say they must be damn smart guys to develop a purebred strain that stiffens up and falls over when startled. The characteristic (myotonia congenital) is a condition in which the muscle cells experience prolonged contraction. It is a temporary condition and a fainted goat has normal vital signs and is fully conscious, eyes open, just stiff.  This is true.
   In the early years, wily Tennessee farmers would  pasture a TFG with their flocks of sheep. When the predators came down from the hills, the goat would fall over and the sheep would run away.  That’s pretty smart.  Later on, cunning snake oil salesmen would travel with a goat as a prop to prove the miraculous restorative properties of their potions. And recently, the story goes, a clever farmer who lived next to a tank  practice ground took the army brass to the top of a ridge overlooking his herd of grazing TFGs.  When the firing began, all the animals fell over, and the farmer was later reimbursed for the value of the entire herd.
   I expect this factual data will modify your view.

[Rocking-M]

  In retrospect, I'm surprised they actually spelled the sign correctly.  They must have been proud of the state scholar that did that under contract before he or she left in disgust. 

        But TT – aren't Tennesseeans the ingenious people that gave the world the Tennessee Fainting Goat. 
   I’d say they must be damn smart guys to develop a purebred strain that stiffens up and falls over when startled. The characteristic (myotonia congenital) is a condition in which the muscle cells experience prolonged contraction. It is a temporary condition and a fainted goat has normal vital signs and is fully conscious, eyes open, just stiff.  This is true.
   In the early years, wily Tennessee farmers would  pasture a TFG with their flocks of sheep. When the predators came down from the hills, the goat would fall over and the sheep would run away.  That’s pretty smart.  Later on, cunning snake oil salesmen would travel with a goat as a prop to prove the miraculous restorative properties of their potions. And recently, the story goes, a clever farmer who lived next to a tank  practice ground took the army brass to the top of a ridge overlooking his herd of grazing TFGs.  When the firing began, all the animals fell over, and the farmer was later reimbursed for the value of the entire herd.
   I expect this factual data will modify your view.

Oh tired of picking on West Virginians now are ye?
And this from a member of the Canadian Association of Rednecks.
Dave, I know where you go to church too!.......http://www.sentex.net/~ssck/church.htm

Here's how I see it, back in the 1800s, millions of beaver were killed by hunters with crappy rifles. So that basically means that today Tennessee alone could beat Canada.

- Patton

[upperlake04]

 Yessir, these are my people.
  As you know, Saskatchewan has long been tagged with the title of the Kentucky of Canada   Oops, now the the Kentuckians will be pissed off.